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Old 09-28-2010, 03:17 PM   #1
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To 15 or not to 15? That is the question.

I have a 2004 Rubi. It is in stock trim. It is new tire time. I will be getting a set of BFG MT KM2.

This is my dilemma:

Looking at sizes my only option (without rubbing) on stock rims is the stock tire size. 245/75-16

The other option is buy a set of steel wheels and get 31x10.5x15.



It will actually be cheaper to buy rims and tires. Plus the 31x10.5x15 is just a scoshe taller and wider than the 245/75-16.

I hate to go down in rim size. Going from Aluminum to Steel is another big drawback.



Not sure what I am going to do here. Any input would be greatly appreciated.

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Old 09-28-2010, 03:40 PM   #2
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Trade for a set of Ravines...you might gain some $$ to go towards the tires.

Yes, I'd trade you mine if you were in NC.

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My Rubicon is happily running 15" wheels but I wouldn't convert to 15" if it meant having to go to steel wheels.
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Pick up some Ravines or Canyons cheap, then put your 31x10.5x15's on them... Problem solved. More sidewall is better...
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Old 09-28-2010, 06:45 PM   #7
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So why aluminium over steel besides being lighter? Just a question, I'm currently in a similar situation.
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So why aluminium over steel besides being lighter? Just a question, I'm currently in a similar situation.
Steel wheels are not only heavier but they bend and dent far more easily on tough trails than aluminum wheels do. That's why my experiment with steel wheels was short lived, I couldn't keep them straight or dent-free enough to remain balanced or hold air reliably. I had far better luck with my cheapy cast aluminum wheels (American Eagle then American Racing) than I ever did with my steel wheels. I'm now running forged aluminum bead lock wheels from Walker Evans and I couldn't be happier with them.

Here's a friend's steel wheel after a single trip through one of Johnson Valley's rocky trails...
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Steel wheels are not only heavier but they bend and dent far more easily on tough trails than aluminum wheels do. That's why my experiment with steel wheels was short lived, I couldn't keep them straight or dent-free enough to remain balanced or hold air reliably. I had far better luck with my cheapy cast aluminum wheels (American Eagle then American Racing) than I ever did with my steel wheels. I'm now running forged aluminum bead lock wheels from Walker Evans and I couldn't be happier with them.

Here's a friend's steel wheel after a single trip through one of Johnson Valley's rocky trails...
It looks like he put the tire on after driving on just the wheel
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Mr. Bransford has said in other threads that aluminum won't bend and warp on tough rock crawling trails and aluminum is much lighter. They are very strong the downfall is if you do damage them usually results in a crack b/c they don't bend.

I run steele's and run rocks and beat the crap out of them with no major issue. They are heavy but CHEAP compared to AL and I don't care if I beat the snot out of them. It's all in your budget and what you do.
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Mr. Bransford has said in other threads that aluminum won't bend and warp on tough rock crawling trails and aluminum is much lighter. They are very strong the downfall is if you do damage them usually results in a crack b/c they don't bend.

I run steele's and run rocks and beat the crap out of them with no major issue. They are heavy but CHEAP compared to AL and I don't care if I beat the snot out of them. It's all in your budget and what you do.
The tougher the trail, the more you'll start to hate steel wheels. With my total of 15 aluminum wheels on two different TJs, I have had just one cracked aluminum wheel. With my 5 steel wheels, I had more dents and bent wheels than I could keep up with. I'll stick with the better odds of fewer problems with aluminum wheels thank you.
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^^^See he's faster than me. lol
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Steel is definatly in my budget right now. I'm getting ready to sell the wheels i have right now. I'm getting $650 for the ones I have and need to replace them obviously. So steel is about my only option because not only am I buying wheels, I have to buy tires as well.
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A lot has to do with the tires, tire pressure, and the way you drive. The wheel in the picture was obvious run on a tire that was flat.

I don't think you'll have many problems running steels. If it was that big of an issue no one would be wheeling with steels.
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A lot has to do with the tires, tire pressure, and the way you drive. The wheel in the picture was obvious run on a tire that was flat.

I don't think you'll have many problems running steels. If it was that big of an issue no one would be wheeling with steels.
This is true. In Jerry's defense, he wheels some of the toughest stuff ever.... He needs alloys. Not everyone can be Jerry (thank goodness! ) I don't have the huevos for that stuff!
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I will eventualy be doing those type if trails, but not fo a bit. (atleast until it's paid off) but for now I drive it everyday and can't afford to do that type of stuff yet.
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I’m in the same boat is Timmy. Sort of... I don’t have the money for Alloys right now. Plus I am hoping next time I need tires (or before ) I will be getting 33"s or 35"s. So I will have to buy new rims again.

I live in LA... You know Lower Alabama... So there are not many rocks around here. I'm not too worried about bending them up. I certainly won’t be following Jerry down any trails anytime soon.

I will eventually, hopefully, be moving back out west and am interested in modest rock crawling (I still probably won’t be following Mr. Bransford down any trails). By then, though, I should have upgraded tires and rims.
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Iím in the same boat is Timmy. Sort of... I donít have the money for Alloys right now. Plus I am hoping next time I need tires (or before ) I will be getting 33"s or 35"s. So I will have to buy new rims again.
New wheels again, why?
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I will have to get some with a decreased offset to prevent rubbing.
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I see, it was the again part that threw me....

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