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Old 04-21-2013, 11:13 AM   #1
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To Bedline, or Not to Bedline my Entire Jeep

So, my paint is pretty awful both physically and color wise, so I'm viewing this as an option to spring clean my jeep. I've listed the pros/cons (in my mind) and am looking for some feedback on whether to consider this as an option or not. If it's a yes, I'm going with one of blue/red/yellow -- though probably red. Something about red with black accents just seems right.

Pros:
(1) Yes, I know it'll look super toolish, but it's significantly cheaper than going to my detail guy to go over awful Chrysler paint
(2) I can do it in whatever color I want, finally ridding myself of gross Khaki color.
(3) It will cover up various "it'll buff out" areas.
(4) I can subsequently do my interior and tub (or should I do this first for practice)
(5) I won't want a new jeep over my currently crappy color and paint quality.

Cons:
(1) Messing up is not an option, so how easy is it to mess up? (that's a Q for you guys)
(2) It'll look super toolish.
(3) Harder to clean due to texture? (that's also a Q for you guys)
(4) Is there any UV fade? and if so, can you just roll on another coat of it, or use paint (that's a Q for you guys)
(5) Is it reversible? (My guess is no)

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kpla51 has a thread going on this. His looks awesome. Check it out (I don't know how to post a link here, sorry)

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the other guys turned out sweet, go for it
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If you are afraid of your skills at painting, you could do all the prep and then take it to a shop and have it done in LineX. With that you get a lifetime warranty.
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If you are afraid of your skills at painting, you could do all the prep and then take it to a shop and have it done in LineX. With that you get a lifetime warranty.
Even I will say be very leery of that "lifetime warranty". I thinks it's very misleading.
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I did mine in the spray can rustoleum bed liner.
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Old 04-21-2013, 01:55 PM   #8
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Even I will say be very leery of that "lifetime warranty". I thinks it's very misleading.
From the documentation I could find on google it looks specific to truck beds, sadly.
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the texture of monstaliner won't collect dirt like others will if you mess up go over it. its not reversible unless you spend a year with a chisel and some crazy good stripper. but monstaliner has a few different shades of red.
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Monstaliner interiors and exteriors - JeepForum.com check this out you will see some in red exteriors and interiors and good info on how they prepped and how they installed it
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From the documentation I could find on google it looks specific to truck beds, sadly.
Even truck beds is misleading.

Guys come in with chipped/peeling liners. Most of the time the excuse is "Well that's abuse." When testing a new product (which sucked by the way) we had a guy with a couple month old liner with a huge bubble. The excuse was "Well there is nothing we can do."

I would have been furious, the guy just let it go. Line-X is still the best bedliner, but it's not indestructable, and they won't just replace the whole liner if it starts peeling. I really think they need to either honor their warranties or change the wording.
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Monstaliner interiors and exteriors - JeepForum.com check this out you will see some in red exteriors and interiors and good info on how they prepped and how they installed it

I skimmed through -- before doing your job did you run into anything re using different rollers for smoother texture? Or is that a function of the amount of time you let a given layer sit before going over it again with a roller?

I'd prefer the inside and outside to be on the smooth side to promote ease of cleaning. The cleaning process in my mind for the outside is pressure wash, go over with sponge and soap, then spray down down. For the inside just scrub with soapy sponge and then dilute with wet sponge.

Trim (fenders, sliders, mirrors, gas inlet, etc.) I'll probably go heavy and thick with texture in black.

I suppose the nice thing about doing it myself is that I don't have to do the whole thing at once, or maybe try renting a pull in storage shed (damn condo).
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all i do is pressure wash the product is so smooth that dirt won't stick to it like other products but the texture is all on how you apply it i just used the roller and kept doing layers till i was happy with it.
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you might check out Raptor liner. It looks pretty good.
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Even truck beds is misleading.

Guys come in with chipped/peeling liners. Most of the time the excuse is "Well that's abuse." When testing a new product (which sucked by the way) we had a guy with a couple month old liner with a huge bubble. The excuse was "Well there is nothing we can do."

I would have been furious, the guy just let it go. Line-X is still the best bedliner, but it's not indestructable, and they won't just replace the whole liner if it starts peeling. I really think they need to either honor their warranties or change the wording.
Wow that sounds... poopy.

I had my truck bed lined last monday by Rhino. Tuesday night, I noticed a bubble in the bed. Small, only as wide as one rib, and about 8 inches long.
I called the guy, scheduled another appointment. He carved out the bubble (It was only the last layer they sprayed on; he described it as a "burp" or incorrect mix in the gun). He then primered the whole floor of the bed, and resprayed it. No humming or hawing. No excuses. If an applicator won't honor the warranty, I'd contact the head office and complain.

I would assume that the applicator is out the time & money fixing his own mistakes. So, that's probably why the LineX guy wouldn't step right up and fix it.
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my tub is rhino lined professionally and is extremely tough but couldn't afford to do the exterior haha
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my tub is rhino lined professionally and is extremely tough but couldn't afford to do the exterior haha

Which one provides a better finish?
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Which one provides a better finish?
the texture is about the same smooth with bumps not gritty feels like the plastic drop in bed liners for truck but has a rubbery feel. sorry its hard to explain
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I ended up spraying the inside of my tub with raptor liner and couldn't be happier. It is extremely uv resistant and has a smooth but textured finish. When I get ready for paint it will definately be raptor lined.
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Would the monstaliner be a good option for fender flares, sliders and bumpers only? Need to find something to permanently get rid of all the fading black plastic.
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Would the monstaliner be a good option for fender flares, sliders and bumpers only? Need to find something to permanently get rid of all the fading black plastic.

That's what I'm going to start with.
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So, my paint is pretty awful both physically and color wise, so I'm viewing this as an option to spring clean my jeep. I've listed the pros/cons (in my mind) and am looking for some feedback on whether to consider this as an option or not. If it's a yes, I'm going with one of blue/red/yellow -- though probably red. Something about red with black accents just seems right.

Pros:
(1) Yes, I know it'll look super toolish, but it's significantly cheaper than going to my detail guy to go over awful Chrysler paint
(2) I can do it in whatever color I want, finally ridding myself of gross Khaki color.
(3) It will cover up various "it'll buff out" areas.
(4) I can subsequently do my interior and tub (or should I do this first for practice)
(5) I won't want a new jeep over my currently crappy color and paint quality.

Cons:
(1) Messing up is not an option, so how easy is it to mess up? (that's a Q for you guys)
(2) It'll look super toolish.
(3) Harder to clean due to texture? (that's also a Q for you guys)
(4) Is there any UV fade? and if so, can you just roll on another coat of it, or use paint (that's a Q for you guys)
(5) Is it reversible? (My guess is no)
Go for it.
Take time to prepare, clean scuff and clean again, make sure the surface is spotless and dry. It's not that hard to do, just have some confidence and make sure it's definitely what you want.
It doesn't look that bad, in fact, done right it looks pretty damn good.
Cleaning is no different, I just use a soft brush, as it tears sponges up.... Pressure washer, no problem.
UV fade depends on the brand/color. Use an aliphatic liner, this won't fade.
No, it's not reversible without serious work.

I did mine in Grizzly Grip, it's cheap[er] (than paint) and I still had loads left over.
5qts of the aliphatic stuff cost me $144 shipped (fine texture, not coarse). I used 2. and I gave it a good coat.
I did however use a medium/high viscosity spray gun, available by the motor section of most walmarts for around $30. You'll need a compressor though.

Mask her up and away you go.
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