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Old 08-14-2012, 09:59 PM   #31
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I'm digging the white wagon wheels
cheers mate, they are 15 x 8 inch steel, fairly common on rigs over here

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Wow go away for an hour and come back with some nice replies! Thanks guys! I definitely wanna take the doors off so the mirror mod will be a must.

WRNGLR from New Zealand, your jeep looks great! Thanks for posting a pic! Seeing a visual pic with the mods listed helps me visualize what mine would look like! I appreciate it!!

Invertchaos, what size wheels are those? I love the 2.5 lift with the 1.25 BL. Should I step it up to a 3 inch lift with the 1.25 BL and call it good?


Keep the ideas flowing ladies and gents

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For rock sliders, would these be okay?[/B]
TJ-4121 - Body Armor Rockcrawler Side Guards for 97-06 Jeep® Wrangler TJ - Quadratec

or should I save up for rokmens even though I might not do any hard trailing?
I have those body armor side guards and love the way they look. They were extremely easy to install, no drilling any holes anywhere. I don't regret that purchase in the least bit. I also have body armor bumpers front and rear so everything matches well.
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I have those body armor side guards and love the way they look. They were extremely easy to install, no drilling any holes anywhere. I don't regret that purchase in the least bit. I also have body armor bumpers front and rear so everything matches well.
Glad to hear something positive about them man!! I bet they are weaker since you just drill them into the previous holes and don't have the same amount of support but oh well I am not super extreme :P As for the bumpers, how much were those? Got a pic of your set up?
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Wow go away for an hour and come back with some nice replies! Thanks guys! I definitely wanna take the doors off so the mirror mod will be a must.

WRNGLR from New Zealand, your jeep looks great! Thanks for posting a pic! Seeing a visual pic with the mods listed helps me visualize what mine would look like! I appreciate it!!

Invertchaos, what size wheels are those? I love the 2.5 lift with the 1.25 BL. Should I step it up to a 3 inch lift with the 1.25 BL and call it good?

Keep the ideas flowing ladies and gents
33x12.50x15 tires on 15x8 wheels
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Wow go away for an hour and come back with some nice replies! Thanks guys! I definitely wanna take the doors off so the mirror mod will be a must.

WRNGLR from New Zealand, your jeep looks great! Thanks for posting a pic! Seeing a visual pic with the mods listed helps me visualize what mine would look like! I appreciate it!!

Invertchaos, what size wheels are those? I love the 2.5 lift with the 1.25 BL. Should I step it up to a 3 inch lift with the 1.25 BL and call it good?


Keep the ideas flowing ladies and gents
thanks mate, still a work in progress when money (wife) allows my experience over here is , the higher you go the less stable you are , 2 - 2,5 inch lift would be plenty, with 33 inch tires on 15x 8 inch rims, back spacing on mine is -24 millimetres, we have laws that prevent tire tread outside egde of guard, don't know rules over there but a -44 back space rim, 33 inch tire and a 3 inch lift would be just the ducks nuts I reckon

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33x12.50x15 tires on 15x8 wheels
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thanks mate, still a work in progress when money (wife) allows my experience over here is , the higher you go the less stable you are , 2 - 2,5 inch lift would be plenty, with 33 inch tires on 15x 8 inch rims, back spacing on mine is -24 millimetres, we have laws that prevent tire tread outside egde of guard, don't know rules over there but a -44 back space rim, 33 inch tire and a 3 inch lift would be just the ducks nuts I reckon

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Awesome Greg! Thanks again! I am still a noob! Any links for the spacers? What do they actually do and benefits? I know it makes it look way more bad arse tho :P
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Awesome Greg! Thanks again! I am still a noob! Any links for the spacers? What do they actually do and benefits? I know it makes it look way more bad arse tho :P
Back spacing refers to where the centre of wheel is positioned and attached to your hub, for example, a negative back space would have your wheels sticking out more past the body, a positive back space would have the wheels under the guards more. I have a link to work out back spacing some where I'll post it as soon as I find it. oh here it is
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hope this works for ya

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Note that there's another thread going from someone complaining about his 2.4 not having enough power due to his 33s. Moving tire size up with the 4-cyl likely not a good idea given the $$ parameters (it's expensive to re-gear to compensate!). Note his ride currently has very street-oriented tires. Stock-sized, aggressive tread tires would make more of a difference than simply bigger tires. When $$ is limited, one must be smart about where it's spent!
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Note that there's another thread going from someone complaining about his 2.4 not having enough power due to his 33s. Moving tire size up with the 4-cyl likely not a good idea given the $$ parameters (it's expensive to re-gear to compensate!). Note his ride currently has very street-oriented tires. Stock-sized, aggressive tread tires would make more of a difference than simply bigger tires. When $$ is limited, one must be smart about where it's spent!
Whoops i must have missed something, I didn't realize he's only 4 cyl, I'm running 33's with 4.0lt 6cyl, appologies if I have put someone on the wrong track with my ranting.
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Note that there's another thread going from someone complaining about his 2.4 not having enough power due to his 33s. Moving tire size up with the 4-cyl likely not a good idea given the $$ parameters (it's expensive to re-gear to compensate!). Note his ride currently has very street-oriented tires. Stock-sized, aggressive tread tires would make more of a difference than simply bigger tires. When $$ is limited, one must be smart about where it's spent!
I'd have to agree. I think he should stay at an aggressive 31" tire and a small lift. Especially since he said he doesn't wheel
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With a 4 banger, I would just suggest 31's maybe some all terrains. 31's are fine, if you drive with some smarts, you can do alot. Then remove your milk jugs (free). Spray paint headlight bezels black (cost of paint). Remove side steps (free) and look into some rock sliders. You could also paint all your hinges (exterior) black. Just these things would give her a whole new look. Just my thoughts.
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If you do want some lift, maybe just a 1.25 bl.
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Ya I was wondering about the 33"s with a 4banger. Once again, there is like over 40 comments already. You guys are great and give good advice!

So not even a couple engine mods would help out to be able to wheel 33's? Anyone have pics of some aggressive looking 31" tire TJs?
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Ya I was wondering about the 33"s with a 4banger. Once again, there is like over 40 comments already. You guys are great and give good advice!

So not even a couple engine mods would help out to be able to wheel 33's? Anyone have pics of some aggressive looking 31" tire TJs?
Nope, the 4 Banger is weak as is. The only thing to get your power back that you'd lose on 33s is to regear the axles which is a $1200 job. Most aggressive tires have a 31" size. Where are you located? That would decide which tire is best for you.
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Glad to hear something positive about them man!! I bet they are weaker since you just drill them into the previous holes and don't have the same amount of support but oh well I am not super extreme :P As for the bumpers, how much were those? Got a pic of your set up?
Not exactly. You need to check out the installation instructions. They mount into the 3 body mount out-riggers. What I mean about not drilling holes is that they don't come up onto the side like others do and that is specifically why I wanted them. I didn't want anything on the side and didn't want to drill any holes there. I know many people do and it doesn't hurt anything or look bad, I just didn't want that.

You can see various Body Armor bumpers on quadratec to get an idea of what they have and the prices. This is the only picture I have at the moment.

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thanks for the info guys. i have a 4 banger as well (looking to pick up another wrangler but a 6 this time) but i'm on 31s already. i was wondering what my options were as well when it came to possibly going larger.
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Nope, the 4 Banger is weak as is. The only thing to get your power back that you'd lose on 33s is to regear the axles which is a $1200 job. Most aggressive tires have a 31" size. Where are you located? That would decide which tire is best for you.
Thanks for this reply though. I did a ton of research last night and I already new this option but was trying to avoid. I am from Minnesota. I think I am going for the leap and will regear with 4.88. I heard it is even better than stock with 33"s on it and can do fine on the high way. Thoughts? Should I pay someone to do it?

Anyone know of a good 4.88 gear set. Rough country has one of the cheaper sets I have seen but are they quality?
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Not exactly. You need to check out the installation instructions. They mount into the 3 body mount out-riggers. What I mean about not drilling holes is that they don't come up onto the side like others do and that is specifically why I wanted them. I didn't want anything on the side and didn't want to drill any holes there. I know many people do and it doesn't hurt anything or look bad, I just didn't want that.

You can see various Body Armor bumpers on quadratec to get an idea of what they have and the prices. This is the only picture I have at the moment.
Think this will be one of my first 3 mods. Thanks a lot man! I like the look of it!
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One last question. If I take off the milk jugs will it start to rust on the ends? I saw some people put some kind of cover over it? OR another option?

Actually I lied, probably not the last question :P
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Thanks for this reply though. I did a ton of research last night and I already new this option but was trying to avoid. I am from Minnesota. I think I am going for the leap and will regear with 4.88. I heard it is even better than stock with 33"s on it and can do fine on the high way. Thoughts? Should I pay someone to do it?

Anyone know of a good 4.88 gear set. Rough country has one of the cheaper sets I have seen but are they quality?
If you do highway driving the regear to 4.88 is gunna hurt your mpg.
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If you do highway driving the regear to 4.88 is gunna hurt your mpg.
How much will it hurt it? I dont drive on the highway that much but from time to time i do.

Doing some free mods today. So if I take off the milk jugs do I have to put anything to replace it so it wont rust the bumper?

I am going to be plastidipping some stuff for fun today too
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How much will it hurt it? I dont drive on the highway that much but from time to time i do.

Doing some free mods today. So if I take off the milk jugs do I have to put anything to replace it so it wont rust the bumper?

I am going to be plastidipping some stuff for fun today too
bumper end caps. I took my front jugs off. the back is fine for now but I bumper end caps on amazon for under 10 bucks.
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Thanks for this reply though. I did a ton of research last night and I already new this option but was trying to avoid. I am from Minnesota. I think I am going for the leap and will regear with 4.88. I heard it is even better than stock with 33"s on it and can do fine on the high way. Thoughts? Should I pay someone to do it?

Anyone know of a good 4.88 gear set. Rough country has one of the cheaper sets I have seen but are they quality?
If you go to 4.88 it should be similar to how it is now. My regear for my Jeep is my favorite mod. I would definitely pay someone to do it unless you've done it before or like trying new things at the expense of $500 gears go for it. Out just have to be super precise and set the pinion depth just so. Way over my head.

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If you do highway driving the regear to 4.88 is gunna hurt your mpg.
Not true. On my 6 cyl with 33s and 3.73s I was getting around 13mpg. With 4.56s the engine is back in its power band and i get 19mpg on the highway. With armor. Rpm does not directly relate to MPG.
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Ya but 4.88 is a bit excessive for a mostly on road jeep. Even with 35s they are a bit too much for regular driving. Now if it was just a trail or mudding jeep then ya it would be a fantastic idea. I would say 4.10 or 4.56 at most but thats just my opinion.
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Ugh and I thought Volkswagens got confusing haha


I am a noob. I need a straight answer I appreciate every ones opinion on here but both sides make sense to me which is my problem.

I have read that 4.88 is a great upgrade. Havent heard much about the 4.56.
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For the 4cyl, 5 speed, and 33s, 4.88 is universally recommended.
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My recommendation for the first 3-4 mods for mild to moderate wheeler is:
JKS Sway Bar Disconnects
Nice All terrain tire (current size) - I recommend duratrac's
A way to air tires back up. Electric or Co2
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Looks like you have a 4 cyl. so I wouldn't go larger than 31" tires with 4.10's. If you are talking lift OME as every says is great and IMO the best short arm but all the most $$. You might get by with 31" tires with a 2" BB and 1" BL and not be out much cash.
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In regards to gearing it is a paradigm to get over the 4.56, 4.88 as being too much gearing. All gearing does is return the vehicle to a stock setting. I run 4.88's and 35" tires. Saves the clutch on the trail and keeps you from having to down shift on the road.
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I get the point of regearing. But there comes a point in over gearing and thats better for off road jeeps. He said said he wants a good dd not a extreme rock crawler or mudding jeep. Im also regearing and I've been looking all over for what's best. Here's a chart that should help.

http://jeephorizons.com/tech/rpmchart.html

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