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Old 07-20-2008, 08:05 PM   #1
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towing a boat

4.0 5spd...im gonna get a tow package..can i tow a decent sized ski/fish boat? or to much on the tranny???

whats max tow weight

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Old 07-20-2008, 08:18 PM   #2
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Its not the engine or tranny, but the short wheelbase that limits the towing capacity. I think its 1500lbs, not positive, might be 2000lbs though.

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here in germany we are allowed to tow 4500 lbs with a 4.0L TJ (the trailer must have an own brake and the maximum speed is 50 mph).
that works good with a boat.

i already towed a friends +6000 lbs formula 272 sr-1 with my TJ and that was also ok.
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Old 07-20-2008, 10:14 PM   #5
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what is the size of that one? Im looking at something just a tad bigger but cant tell on the angle of that pic
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Old 07-20-2008, 11:00 PM   #6
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Reuber, I've been towing boats since 1971 of all sizes and regardless of what they let nicolas-eric do in Europe, the TJ is not SAFE towing anything more than around 2,000 lbs. It's the short wheelbase that is the problem, not the TJ's engine power or braking. Plus 2,000 lbs. is the max recommended tow limit for the TJ with the 4.0L in the US.

If you want to tow a good size power boat, especially one that is bigger than that boat in the above picture, don't kid yourself that your TJ is up to the task. I towed my 20' power boat which was probably just over 4000 lbs. behind my wife's V8 Grand Cherokee and even though it was under the GC's max tow limit, it was definitely a handful even for the JGC.

For my TJ, I tow a low profile tent trailer that is probably just under 2000 lbs. loaded and that is all I'd feel safe towing behind it.
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Old 07-21-2008, 12:41 PM   #7
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My little boat is a 14' Deep V aluminum SmokerCraft with & Rolls Axle aluminum trailer.
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My little boat is a 14' Deep V aluminum SmokerCraft with & Rolls Axle aluminum trailer.
The photo made it look bigger than that to me, I can now see it's smaller than I originally thought it was. Maybe if the OP's boat isn't that much bigger than yours it'd be ok behind the TJ so long as it didn't exceed that weight limitation.

One key thing to keep in mind about towing is to make darned sure there's enough tongue weight (no less than 10% of the trailer's total loaded weight) so the trailer remains stable. Less than that and a trailer can sway visciously.
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Reuber, I've been towing boats since 1971 of all sizes and regardless of what they let nicolas-eric do in Europe, the TJ is not SAFE towing anything more than around 2,000 lbs. It's the short wheelbase that is the problem, not the TJ's engine power or braking. Plus 2,000 lbs. is the max recommended tow limit for the TJ with the 4.0L in the US.

If you want to tow a good size power boat, especially one that is bigger than that boat in the above picture, don't kid yourself that your TJ is up to the task. I towed my 20' power boat which was probably just over 4000 lbs. behind my wife's V8 Grand Cherokee and even though it was under the GC's max tow limit, it was definitely a handful even for the JGC.

For my TJ, I tow a low profile tent trailer that is probably just under 2000 lbs. loaded and that is all I'd feel safe towing behind it.

i didnt want a pontoon or anything...something around that size is what im looking into.

i in no way would try to tow something huge with the Jeep. I know they arent the best for it thats why i was wondering max load..

more pics of the 14 ftr
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...regardless of what they let nicolas-eric do in Europe, the TJ is not SAFE towing anything more than around 2,000 lbs...
Our laws and regulations about vehicles are stricter than in the US.

Before the government defines the towing capacity of a car they make driving tests with different trailers with increasing weights. When one weight is too much and the test failed they allow to tow the half of this weight.
So I think that 4400 lbs is ok when their tests failed at 8800 lbs.

Many TJ drivers all over europe tow their big camping trailer and boats with a weight up to 4400 lbs and there never was a problem.

But remember:
The allowed maximum speed with a trailer is 50 mph. And if the trailers don´t have brakes and a tail wag stabilizer the towing capacity is 1600 lbs with a TJ.
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just for S&G's i seen a TJ going down the highway today on my way home from work with a 20ftr looked like Bayliner....naked too
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Old 07-28-2008, 08:36 AM   #12
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Towing is limited to 2000 lbs or a wrangler and 3500 lbs for an unlimited due to the longer wheelbase. I still would not take it to the limit because the brakes are just not beefy enough. You might get away with it if you have brakes on the trailer. I used to tow my boat with an FJCruiser until I bought one that I just keep in the water.
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My 2004 4 banger can barely handle my 18ft Mariah. It just does not have enough @ss. Hell I can barely get above 45 mph so I just use it "very" locally.
I always leave plenty of distance between me and the vehicle in front of me, especially since one time the boat pushed me through a stop sign and out into the intersection. I did get bigger tires a few months back and that seemed to improve that problem.
For longer hauls we use my wife's Toyota Highlander which is fine.
Now I wish I would have gotten a lighter Carolina Skiff instead of what "the wife" wanted. LOL!
The angle of this pic makes my jeep look like dwarf....well it is I guess.
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I recently pulled two fourwheelers with mine. The weight was around 2000 and the only issue I had was the tranny overheating on me. I was parked on the interstate for 20 min with the engine off to cool it and then couldn't pull the load back home. My transmission did fine without the load after the incident. I am convinced the speed was my issue though. I was going 65 for about an hour before this.

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