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Old 07-29-2007, 09:21 AM   #1
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Towing a boat

Does anyone have experience towing a boat with their tj? I have a 4.0l, 5-speed with 3.73 gears and a frame mounted 2x2 hitch. I also have a 4" lift kit so the suspension should hold the tongue weight but I am concerned about the powertrain handling the boat. I beleive the boat is under 5000 lb and I will tow shorts distances of less than 50 miles to the water.

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Old 07-29-2007, 09:25 AM   #2
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the powertrain will tow the boat no problem, it is the stopping that is an issue, you may want to look into getting disc brakes in the rear or a brake upgrade, but you should be able to do it if you know your stopping distances are gonna be wicked long

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According to this trailor towing guide from Trailer Life, you are limited to 2000 lbs with a 4.0 liter

http://www.trailerlife.com/downloads/00towingguide.pdf

I am sure that the Jeep will pull your boat, but the question is how safe will it be? You state that you have a 4 inch suspension lift which puts your center of gravity 4 inches higher than stock. If the trailer weight is not distributed correctly it could start to whip/sway with you, . The short wheelbase of the Wrangler will tend to magnify the effects of this problem and coupled with the increase center of gravity the end result could be deadly for you, your passengers, or someone else who just happens to be on the same space of highway as you.

If you add this potential problem to the aforementioned long braking distance, you have to ask yourself if the liability issues associated with towing this load are worth the risk.

I wouldn't tow it if it was mine....my suggestion would be go buy a cheap 1/2 ton pickup to tow the boat. Could be the cheapest insurance you will ever purchase.
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i disagree the hightened center of gravity has nothing to do with having a trailer, there are plenty of people that have lifts and tow, however you will need to be careful and take i very slow, but if your not going cross country with a tent trailer or someting, your just going 50 miles ot the water, just know that you're not going to be going 60 mph, but rather like 45, just be safe, dont tail gate, and go slow!!!!!!
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I tow my jet skis every week about 20 miles to the water the combines weight with both skis and the double trailer is about 3000 the only problem I ever have is getting out of a steep slippery ramp but its nothing that 4L cant handle and the braking is bad at high speeds, just need to give yourself alot of room
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I saw a Jeep a couple day ago towing a boat. A good sized boat too, more than 5k. I didn't know you could, but yes, you can tow with it. Just know you won't stop on a dime.
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You've gotten some very dangerous advice above, the Wrangler is not even close to being able to safely tow a boat that heavy. Its safe tow limit is 2,000 lbs and you'd be in a world of hurt the first time you had to do any kind of an emergency evasive maneuver or stop to avoid an accident. You'd quickly learn where the phrase "the tail wagging the dog" came from.

Don't even think about towing that boat with your Wrangler, it's not up to it. The Wrangler's short wheelbase is the reason why.

By the way, I've been towing boats up to about that size for 35+ years and the size boat you're talking about is really a handful even for my wife's V8 equipped Grand Cherokee that has a significantly longer wheelbase. And the 4.0L would struggle on a grade with that much boat, I've towed boats that weight with my long-gone Cherokee and it struggled going uphill.

Find a more suitable tow vehicle because your Wrangler isn't suitable for anything even close to that weight.
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All I said was I was one doing it, and it could. Safety is another issue with that. I'm not planning on towing more than a quad or my bike.
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Old 07-29-2007, 11:27 AM   #9
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I have hauled a lot of stuff in my years, as well. I would never think of hauling anything over 2k lbs. with my jeep. As Jerry said, it is way too short of a wheel base, and would only spell disaster, to tow anything more, with it. It is not a matter of, "can it do it", it is a matter of your safety, as well as everyone else's, on the road.
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I hauled my 20ft caravelle the other day. I have 4.0 5spd. I of course put it in 4lo on the boat ramp so i wouldnt burn up the clutch pulling it out. it was a pretty steep boat ramp. I got the 3500 lb hidden hitch. It bolts to 6 different places on the frame. I wouldnt want to haul for long distances, but it did the job.
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I only tow a single older waverunner and a medium sized box trailer short distances ive seen people tow boats with wranglers in the past and they are crazy.
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I tried to get a phone-pic of one in stockton the other day. It did not come out. This guy was pulling a 18'+- day cruiser with his wrangler.
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Just stop and consider how much more that 5k# boats weighs than your wrangler. You really want that much more weight behind you on a swivel - at any speed? Stopping distance has got to more than double, IF you can keep it straight on sudden braking!!! It would yank you off the road in a New York minute.
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I tried to get a phone-pic of one in stockton the other day. It did not come out. This guy was pulling a 18'+- day cruiser with his wrangler.
Yea, I was talking to my dad today about this this he said yesterday he saw a wrangler hooked up to a 30 foot RV. Crazy what some people will do.

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If brakes, weight distributing system is used and proper precautions r takin u can safely tow 3.5k#

Comparison:
Ford Ranger '08 (wheel base 111" grnd clear 8")
Jeep Rangler '08 (wheel base 95" grnd clear 8.8")

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how the hell did you spell wrangler man?
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Old 07-30-2007, 06:37 PM   #18
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Tom: I just towed my 17 ft. sailboat nearly 1,000 miles with my 06 TJ 4.0L Auto 3.73 on 31s. While I had no problems with the tow, my boat and trailer weigh less than 1,000 lbs combined. I also have a 20' bowrider (7,000 lbs with trailer) that I use a 4WD 3/4 ton Suburban to tow. No way would I ever consider towing the bowrider with the TJ. If your boat is anywhere near 5000 lbs., do not use your TJ to tow it even 50 miles. The rig is just not set up for that kind of work.

Just my 2 cents worth.

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with my old 4.0L 5spd manual TJ i often towed my fathers 27 ft 2.2 tons formula boat.
i never had a problem with that.
the only problem was when i towed a lightweight camping trailer with much wind.
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If brakes, weight distributing system is used and proper precautions r takin u can safely tow 3.5k#.
No, not safely you can't. That was a pretty reckless claim to be making.
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Can you do it? Yes. First you should make sure you have a life insurance policy to provide at least 2 years income for your family, plus funeral fees. Then double that for liability, for the family in oncoming traffic. But you can buy a long wheelbase pickup, and do it safely, and take the family with you instead.
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Hey guys, I read all the posts above and you frequently refer to the short wheelbase as the main problem with towing some load. But what about the unlimited 4 doors, 13" longer? Do you think it is still dangerous to tow a 2900lb boat + trailer with that Jeep? She is manual, 2WD and 3.21 axel. Any comments?
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Your Unlimited's longer wheelbase gives it a 3500 lb. tow rating so you're good to go. By the way, are you sure about that 3.21 axle ratio? I've never seen a Jeep with a 3.21, is that ratio available on new JKs I'm guessing you have since you say it is also 2wd?
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Yes JB, it is a 3.21 and 2WD (unfortunately). Never thought I would use it for towing, and guess what? A free boat just came along... So 2900lb + trailer I should be fine? The first ride will be really long, Minn to Miami, after that it will be short rides to the keys. The Jeep manual shows only 1000lb for my Jeep with the 3.21, is that possible?
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Yes JB, it is a 3.21 and 2WD (unfortunately). Never thought I would use it for towing, and guess what? A free boat just came along... So 2900lb + trailer I should be fine? The first ride will be really long, Minn to Miami, after that it will be short rides to the keys. The Jeep manual shows only 1000lb for my Jeep with the 3.21, is that possible?
I don't know the new JK line well at all, I just assumed a JK Unlimited would have the same 3500 lb. tow limit the TJ Unlimited does. If it says 1,000 lbs. max, I'd go with what your owners manual says. That is surprising though.
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DON'T DO IT... I've towed boats, camping trailers and even TJ's. Your TJ is rated at 2000 lbs. Why? Because that's all the drivetrain and brakesd can handle. Sure there are stupid people who try it anyway. Watch out for the police who'll se it. Here, if you exceed the rated weight rating = VERY stikkk tciket and fine. And with todays lack of city funds they will get you. If they don't the weight of the boat coming through the back of your TJ will, or, you'll look out to the side and see your boat and rearend catching up to you. Don't press it.....besides aren't you going to have thefamily with you. I'd hate to see you at future gatherings reminising about the "Day of the Accident" and wesure sure miss my, wife, kids, etc.
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I've towed a 16' boat with what you have mentioned with no problem, just make plenty of room to slow down and dont go too fast.
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No, not safely you can't. That was a pretty reckless claim to be making.
I agree completely I too have been towing boats, 5th wheels, and many other trailers for 35+ years your Jeep is not designed for towing it is designed to be one of the best off-road vehicles even in the stock form. Short wheelbase, brakes and driveline designed for that purpose. Perhaps you could pull your boat out of the water, if set up correctly, and drive it 100 yards to your campsite but to drive it on our state and federal roads, don't endanger yourself or the rest of us.
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I would think twice about launching a 3000 pound boat with a 3500 pound 2x4 jeep with a manual trans. I would think that you would have to slip the clutch alot pulling it up the ramp, if you can get enough traction with the back tires wet. I would hate to see your wrangler as a submarine.
I use 4 low when pulling my 5000 pound cobalt out of the water with my F-350 just to avoid traction problems.
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I use my Tj to move my 24' camper around the yard. It has the power and the maneuverability. Especially with it hitched to the front.

I would be AFRAID to take it on the road!

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