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Old 01-11-2008, 09:33 AM   #1
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towing with 2000lb capacity

is it bad to tow over the 2000lb capacity....Has anyone out there towed over the rating on the hitch?

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only 2000 lbs?
here in europe we are allowed to tow 4000 lbs (with a max. speed of 50 mph) with a 4.0L TJ.

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Really!!! My hitch is a 1/4 it says 2000lbs towing with a 200lb tongue weight.. See i want to tow a 17 ft boat.....4.0L
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Towing capacity is not the whole picture. Your jeep will pull more weight than that without doing damage to your drivetrain.

The problem is stopping a load in a short wheelbase vehicle. If you are not careful you will have your tow vehicle pass you on the highway, pulling you right along with it.
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the load would be about 3100 pounds.........thats a 1100 pound dif....is that a big dif
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50%+ more than rated. If you do have an accident what will your insurance company say?

You could always cut the boat in half and make two trips.
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does the trailer have brakes? if it doesnt i wouldnt even bother. my jeep has a hard enough time getting out of its own way. i always thought we were rated at 3k lbs. I never tow big, i have a single trailer waverunner i tow and a 5x8 box trailer i tow for my dad to the dump. The jeep handles both of those fine.
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Towing capacity is not the whole picture. Your jeep will pull more weight than that without doing damage to your drivetrain.

The problem is stopping a load in a short wheelbase vehicle. If you are not careful you will have your tow vehicle pass you on the highway, pulling you right along with it.
Exactly. Towing too much behind the short wheelbased Wrangler would likely quickly teach the driver the meaning of 'the tail wagging the dog'.

I personally think any European country that thinks towing 4,000 lbs. behind a Wrangler is either nuts or they didn't do enough research. I've been towing boats and trailers for literally 36 years and will just flat out say that the Wrangler is not safe once you get much past 2,000 lbs. I had a Cherokee that was rated to tow 7,500 lbs. but it was right at its safe limit, so far as I was concerned, at around the 5,000 lb. limit which is what one of my boats weighed fully loaded.

What's SAFE and what is sometimes given as a tow capacity don't always conincide. In the Wrangler's case, 2,000 lbs. is about right. Where towing is concerned, it's FAR better to err on the conservative side or it can get ugly real quickly.
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actually the weight would be 2600 pounds...no brake on trailer..
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i dunno man in my opinion that a little heavy for a TJ. especially with no trailer brakes.

try it, with no one around on a empty road and see how it feels. test the brakes and steering. is the trailer tandem axle? just make sure the boat doesnt drag you down the ramp hahaha.
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actually the weight would be 2600 pounds...no brake on trailer..
Without brakes, I wouldn't do it. Heck even my little 900 lb. tent trailer I tow behind my TJ has electric trailer brakes.
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Old 01-11-2008, 12:12 PM   #12
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just make sure the boat doesnt drag you down the ramp hahaha.

I've seen that happen, too.
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What class hitch do you have? I agree that I would not pull that heavy of a load in my jeep, plus I am lifted with no sway bar in the front so no way I would do it.
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its a v5 mopar...but it is only 600 or 700 pounds over
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I would say hook it up and drive around the block see what happens.
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I hooked up our 6,000 pound boat to see how it would react pulled it fine thats not the prob it's the short wheel base and small brakes.
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I honetly would not tow more than 500lbs in a jeep. Maybe 1,000lbs in an unlimited since it has a longer wheel base.

If you are looking to tow something I would suggest a truck or some other vehicle thats designed to handle the boat.

Ive pulled a Water delievery truck that weighed in @ ~20,000lbs w/ my 2500 duramax diesel truck. Its Tow Rating is 15,500lbs. Ya sure it can pull it, but i know that it would be out of its capability to handle that weight at any speed above the 25mph I was towing it to get it off the road.

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but if it is the only way to tow the boat u have no choice....
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but if it is the only way to tow the boat u have no choice....
if its for a trip rent something
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You could always cut the boat in half and make two trips.
I repeat.

I guess you were ignoring my lame attempt at humor.
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i thought it was funny
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but if it is the only way to tow the boat u have no choice....
You still have a choice to not tow it, because its too heavy for the jeep.
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I did some towing a couple of weeks ago with my TJ. It was a 6x8 trailer and we went to get some hay for the horse. Each bail is like 70-80lbs and we had 10, plus two 50lb bags of oats. That was an 800-900lb load, along with the trailer that weighed at least 500lbs, or about 1400lbs total. Just driving from in town to my house was enough for me. You can really tell how bad it can get if you have to hit the breaks hard. Next time I'm doing two trips.
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if it had brakes on it you might be able to get by? you said it was 2600lbs with a 1 1/4 hitch? 200lbs tongue weight limit - that might be a concern also?
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I have been trying to find a answer to the same question, I have a 95 yj, and tow a 17 ft boat, less than 2000 lbs with tounge weight of 200 lbs, if the trailer and boat is set up correctly its not a issue, and less of one if you tow correctly, neat to back up with a wrangler and a boat, you have total control..and by the way, wrangler is only about 2 ft shorter than a cherokee 2 dr, so not much there as to the difference...
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Here's another opinion....add it to the collection. I wouldn't try to tow anything over the rated amount. It was said earlier, something about your insurance company......will they pay if something happens? I'm not in insurance, but it seems like those companies are always looking for a reason to NOT pay out, and towing something that OBVIOUSLY outweighs the rating would be a perfect excuse. Sure, most likely nothing will happen, just sluggish response from your Jeep, but you've gotta look at other facets of this endeavor and lessen your risk. Once again, this is just another opinion, and ultimately it's on your shoulders on what you decide to do. I hope this didn't add to any confusion. Good luck....

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Whatever the trailer weighs, it needs at least (NO LESS!) than 10% of its total weight on the tongue. Less than 10% tongue weight and you'll develop trailer sway which can throw you out of control. So that 2600 lb. trailer needs at least 260 lbs of tongue weight so the trailer won't start swaying back and forth. But since the TJ's max tongue weight is supposed to be no more than 200 lbs. that really says no more than 2000 lbs. of trailer weight.

Officially, tongue weights are supposed to be 10-15% of the trailer's total weight. The only time I've had a bad trailer sway issue was when I bought a nearly new used boat where the trailer was set up incorrectly. The previous owner said it couldn't lift the tongue so he had the axle moved forward. Dumb mistake. Once I got it to 45 mph, I had a VICIOUS trailer sway that scared the heck out of me. He had set it to where it only had about 5% tongue weight (around 200 lbs, the boat/trailer weighed about 4,000 lbs.) which was insufficient. (I was towing it with the Grand Cherokee).

So there are a few limitations to towing with the Wrangler... not only does its short wheelbase make it suceptible to trailer sway, its max tongue weight of 200 lbs. makes anything over 2,000 unsafe for a few reasons. Not to mention more than 200 lbs. tongue weight will make the headlights point up excessively into the sky at night.
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my dad is thinking about getting an 05 unlimited rubicon (im trying to convince him its better then a hybrid escape!), but it would be nice if it could tow a 3,000 pound tent trailer, is this possible? it would only need to be towed once of a distance about 300 miles

if not i may still be able to convince him to buy it b/c we can use my grandpa's truck or something but it would be a nice point, also it would need to tow a 1,200 boat, but we are in consensus a unlimited can handle that along the backroads of Maine going a max of 55 to 60 mph with almost no one else around and no stoplights or signs etc?
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my dad is thinking about getting an 05 unlimited rubicon (im trying to convince him its better then a hybrid escape!), but it would be nice if it could tow a 3,000 pound tent trailer, is this possible? it would only need to be towed once of a distance about 300 miles

if not i may still be able to convince him to buy it b/c we can use my grandpa's truck or something but it would be a nice point, also it would need to tow a 1,200 boat, but we are in consensus a unlimited can handle that along the backroads of Maine going a max of 55 to 60 mph with almost no one else around and no stoplights or signs etc?
The unlimited would pull it with no problem. The SWB TJ has a tow limit of 2000 lbs. I pull 2500lbs with mine several times a year from Chicago to Omaha (450 miles).
The unlimited has a tow rating of 3500lbs due to its longer length.
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I have pulled a 21' boat many times to and from the lake with no problem, not sure of the weight but it is enough to pull my jeep down the ramp. It only pulled me down one time when I didnt have my drop hitch on, so not enough tongue weight. I felt safe but you have to be careful when stopping because it does not stop well at all.

I have a dana 44 but it still cant be good for the drivetrain and everything else. Go for it but be cautious and try not to get pulled in the lake, once I hit the water I did stop and no damage to me or the other two cars I managed to fit between.

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