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Old 01-30-2007, 12:40 PM   #1
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Arrow Toys by Troy Sport Cage

Does anyone here have any experience with this sport cage? Do you run it or do you know anyone who runs it?

I'm kicking around the idea of this or the RockHard Sport Cage because I'd like to have a bolt-in cage. Welding really isn't an option for me.

http://www.jeeprage.com/cubecart/ind...d&productId=69

I've always heard mixed opinions on the TBT products and I know some of you guys are in AZ and I'm hoping I could hear what your opinions are on this.

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I'm not positive you want to hear all of my opinions on TBT. I run his lift and I'm not really happy with all of the components. Troy is a helluva salesman and also has some very nice rigs. Thing is that he doesn't wheel what he sells. All of his stuff is big time custom and he can have his guys work on it all he wants. What I'm not sold on is how he follows up sales with customers in the future. Like the "Lifetime Warranty" on products he sells. That would be all well and good if would ever answer the phone or actually call someone back when you leave a message with his wife. I know that I've been black balled by him for being very critical of his products. However not once has he tried to make it right for me. He's replaced the cartridge joints on my jeep twice now in 3 years and every single one of them is blown again. Yet every time he has tried to play it off on being my fault when it's very clear to me and others I associate with that it's his product that's faulty.

I've seen and heard a variety of differing opinions on that cage. It's better than nothing, but I think there are better products like Rock Hard out on the market. I know all about the video of Tracy rolling in Moab, but I've seen that cage get pretty mangled in some weird areas on just a very slow lean over into some rocks.

So maybe I'm not the best Arizonan to solicit for opinions on TBT. There are plenty of people that are happy with his products and business practices, however I'm definitely not one of them.

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Old 01-30-2007, 01:28 PM   #3
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Thanks a TON Jack! That's exactly the type of info I'm looking for.

Everyone's opinion on the cage seems to be "have you seen Tracy's rollover?". That's just not enough for me. There are just too many variables with that one incident. It's just not enough to sell me on it, yet. That's why I asked the question because I wanted to hear more about TBT and more than just the "rollover".

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Stu did a nice write-up on it: link

I'm in the process of researching a sports cage as well. Currently, the PSC cage is winning, but I'm not sure yet what I'll end up with.
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I've been running TBT sports cage for a few years now. I had to adjust a few of the drill holes to make it work. I don't like the fact that there isn't any way to attach it to the windshield frame.

Overall, it's a decent cage but I'm considering changing it out in the near future
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More of that "pig welding" huh?

Great comments guys... Keep em coming.

I knew I could count on everyone here to help me spend my money.
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I installed Eli's PSC trail cage, and Todd's, and Darians, and mine, and soon in Anya's jeep.

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I didn't realize you were that short.
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I have some TbT stuff, but not the cage. I have the rockers, side sliders, and corners. Pretty simple stuff, but stout as hell. Powdercoating has held up well too, contrary to some reports on the powdercoating of the bumpers.

I've never had a problem dealing with him in getting questions answered or quotes or anything.

When I do a cage, I'll either do a custom cage by a guy here in Huntsville, or have a welder do a KOZOffroad cage for me and use my existing back half.

I would prefer a cage that mounts to the floor/frame. Troy's doesn't. PSC's does, as does the KOZOffroad one.
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I am running the Sport Cage, Tank Skid, steering box skid, and tube bumper.

I have seen the "Tracey's role" dozens of times and it proves that the cage will save your butt. BUT IMHO the sport cage is kinda like a dixie cup (the wax paper type), it gets used once and it needs to be replaced. If I had my money to spend over I would have gone with Rock Hard or probably PSC now that they are selling a clamp style system.

Tank skid has held up well, though dented. The bumper has held up well but I am trying to figure out a way to connect it to a set of tube fenders or something because there is a lot of metal hanging a long way from the mounting points making it somewhat weak in my opinion. The steering box skid has yet to get anything more then minor scratches.

If I had to do it over again I would keep the bumper and modify it which I will anyway. but buy Kilbies tank skid and steering box skid, and do the PSC or Rockhard system. Of all the cages on the market that I have seen this is the most poorly constructed and I honestly wish I hadn't bought it. That said it beats the heck out of the stock system and will be just dandy till I decide to build one myself.
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I am running the Sport Cage, Tank Skid, steering box skid, and tube bumper.

I have seen the "Tracey's role" dozens of times and it proves that the cage will save your butt. BUT IMHO the sport cage is kinda like a dixie cup (the wax paper type), it gets used once and it needs to be replaced. If I had my money to spend over I would have gone with Rock Hard or probably PSC now that they are selling a clamp style system.

Tank skid has held up well, though dented. The bumper has held up well but I am trying to figure out a way to connect it to a set of tube fenders or something because there is a lot of metal hanging a long way from the mounting points making it somewhat weak in my opinion. The steering box skid has yet to get anything more then minor scratches.

If I had to do it over again I would keep the bumper and modify it which I will anyway. but buy Kilbies tank skid and steering box skid, and do the PSC or Rockhard system. Of all the cages on the market that I have seen this is the most poorly constructed and I honestly wish I hadn't bought it. That said it beats the heck out of the stock system and will be just dandy till I decide to build one myself.
Rock,

Why don't you just cut off the horizontal tube that covers the fenders and run your tube for the fender line off of the radiator hoop?
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Why don't you just cut off the horizontal tube that covers the fenders and run your tube for the fender line off of the radiator hoop?
Kinda like the ones that Todd does @ DesertFab



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I run the cage. Have yet to flop over on it.. so I don't have a after action report. I think its better than just the stock cage, but I think it could use a windshield tie in like the rock hard one. But for what I use it for it works for me.
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Thanks for all the great info guys! That's exactly the kind of input I was hoping to get. I really think the RockHard cage is the way to go. It's only a few bucks more.
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I have had the Rockhard cage in for about 7 months and like it alot(for a clamp style). I have not tested it hard yet(leaned it against rock wall and slide along it) but no flops.

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I'm not positive you want to hear all of my opinions on TBT. I run his lift and I'm not really happy with all of the components. Troy is a helluva salesman and also has some very nice rigs. Thing is that he doesn't wheel what he sells. All of his stuff is big time custom and he can have his guys work on it all he wants. What I'm not sold on is how he follows up sales with customers in the future. Like the "Lifetime Warranty" on products he sells. That would be all well and good if would ever answer the phone or actually call someone back when you leave a message with his wife. I know that I've been black balled by him for being very critical of his products. However not once has he tried to make it right for me. He's replaced the cartridge joints on my jeep twice now in 3 years and every single one of them is blown again. Yet every time he has tried to play it off on being my fault when it's very clear to me and others I associate with that it's his product that's faulty.

I've seen and heard a variety of differing opinions on that cage. It's better than nothing, but I think there are better products like Rock Hard out on the market. I know all about the video of Tracy rolling in Moab, but I've seen that cage get pretty mangled in some weird areas on just a very slow lean over into some rocks.

So maybe I'm not the best Arizonan to solicit for opinions on TBT. There are plenty of people that are happy with his products and business practices, however I'm definitely not one of them.
Dude you got a deal ... I run TERRIBLE -Flex blew out the C-joint in a week .....and was told to go screw myself after 6 phone calls .....LOL so you got two a least better than me ! ...
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I've been running TBT sports cage for a few years now. I had to adjust a few of the drill holes to make it work. I don't like the fact that there isn't any way to attach it to the windshield frame.

Overall, it's a decent cage but I'm considering changing it out in the near future

if you change it out is there any chance you will be selling it?
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I've got the Rock Hard cage for the past 8 months and it's pretty solid. I does take some wrestling to get everything in place. The cage comes with a die and it's a good idea to chase out the threads before installation.
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I don't like the fact that there isn't any way to attach it to the windshield frame.
Why? I'm running TBT's cage and I don't see why I'd want it tied into the windshield frame, it works fine as is so far as I am concerned. One thing I did to mine was install a 1/4" steel reinforcing plate behind the dash with heavier bolts where it attaches to the side by the door jamb. Sorry I can't say where that plate and bolt kit came from, a friend dropped it off for me to install.

Other than the grab handles welded onto the forward part of the cage that I like A LOT and use every time I climb into the rig, I can't say how it works as a roll cage since I haven't yet needed it.

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