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Old 09-17-2011, 08:06 PM   #1
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Track Bar Set Up

Does anybody else here have this same track bar set up? I've had bolts from this kit loosen up and gave my Jeep the dreaded DEATH WOOBLE. If you do have the same kit, what problems have you had? Have you replaced the kit? Any recommendations? Thanks in advance. Laters,

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oh gawd not that awful thing again. rip it off ASAP.

replace it with a Currie TJS or TJJ model track bar from Savvy Off-Road.

You'll need 2" front bumpstops to prevent the new track bar from hitting the diff cover...I'd suggest drilling and tapping the bumpstop pad and attaching 2" "Big Block" Performance Accessories body lift pucks. They're really cheap.

You'll also need a stock pitman arm. You're drop pitman arm needs to go.

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Old 09-18-2011, 01:31 PM   #3
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oh gawd not that awful thing again. rip it off ASAP.

replace it with a Currie TJS or TJJ model track bar from Savvy Off-Road.

You'll need 2" front bumpstops to prevent the new track bar from hitting the diff cover...I'd suggest drilling and tapping the bumpstop pad and attaching 2" "Big Block" Performance Accessories body lift pucks. They're really cheap.

You'll also need a stock pitman arm. You're drop pitman arm needs to go.
Wow, I thought I would get more feedback from Jeepers. Thanks for the advise UnlimitedLJ04, now tell me, why do I need the stock pitman arm? I don't have the stock piece, so I would have to fetch one.
On the bump stops, these track bars you mentioned don't have a bend to clear the diff cover? Please let me know, I want to replace my current set up with minimal changes, but if the changes are nesserary, we will get her done. Thaks again.
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Wow, I thought I would get more feedback from Jeepers. Thanks for the advise UnlimitedLJ04, now tell me, why do I need the stock pitman arm? I don't have the stock piece, so I would have to fetch one.
On the bump stops, these track bars you mentioned don't have a bend to clear the diff cover? Please let me know, I want to replace my current set up with minimal changes, but if the changes are nesserary, we will get her done. Thaks again.
The track bar does have to clear the pumpkin/diff cover at full bump, and it has to clear the tie-rod - thats why the stock track bar is that odd shape with a crazy bend on the frame side.

here's an example of a straight track bar...straight as in straight over the diff. notice the big dent in the diff cover?


here's a JKS old style. it hit the diff cover without 2" bumpstop extensions.


on my Jeep, I had diff cover/track bar issues for almost a year before I got it resolved. Now, I run a custom track bar - it requires 1.375" front bumpstop extension, a V8 ZJ tie-rod, and I had to cut half the face off the new diff cover to clear at full bump.



The Currie TJS/TJJ track bar was designed for use with their 4" lift kit. The bar is offset from the joint, attempting to sit in front of the diff somewhat to reduce the required bend. The more severe the bend, the more chances the bar can bend. Most 4" lifts require 2" or more bumpstop extensions anyway. Find out the collapsed length of your front shocks - anything over 13.5" requires 1" bumpstop extension for every 1" increase in collapsed shock length. Most 4" lift kits use 15.5" collapsed length shocks, therefore they require 2" bumpstop extensions anyway. So the Currie TJS/TJJ track bar works great for the folks with 4" of lift and/or 15.5" collapsed length front shocks.

You need a stock pitman arm because the track bar and drag link must be parallel, in the same plane, and the same length. On your current setup, you have a track bar drop bracket - it drops the track bar down a few inches. The pitman arm drops the drag link an equal amount. This prevents something called bumpsteer. So, when you go to the Currie TJS/TJJ track bar, you'll need to get a stock pitman arm because it uses the stock mount...and all that other track bar bracing junk can be removed. This Currie setup with the stock pitman arm will be FAR superior to your current junk, and the DW will be gone...provided all the other steering components are in good shape.
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WOW....that is an amazingly awful setup. Who makes that contraption?

I thought the TB setup on my TJ was bad when I bought it, but that takes the cake.
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The track bar does have to clear the pumpkin/diff cover at full bump, and it has to clear the tie-rod - thats why the stock track bar is that odd shape with a crazy bend on the frame side.

here's an example of a straight track bar...straight as in straight over the diff. notice the big dent in the diff cover?


here's a JKS old style. it hit the diff cover without 2" bumpstop extensions.


on my Jeep, I had diff cover/track bar issues for almost a year before I got it resolved. Now, I run a custom track bar - it requires 1.375" front bumpstop extension, a V8 ZJ tie-rod, and I had to cut half the face off the new diff cover to clear at full bump.



The Currie TJS/TJJ track bar was designed for use with their 4" lift kit. The bar is offset from the joint, attempting to sit in front of the diff somewhat to reduce the required bend. The more severe the bend, the more chances the bar can bend. Most 4" lifts require 2" or more bumpstop extensions anyway. Find out the collapsed length of your front shocks - anything over 13.5" requires 1" bumpstop extension for every 1" increase in collapsed shock length. Most 4" lift kits use 15.5" collapsed length shocks, therefore they require 2" bumpstop extensions anyway. So the Currie TJS/TJJ track bar works great for the folks with 4" of lift and/or 15.5" collapsed length front shocks.

You need a stock pitman arm because the track bar and drag link must be parallel, in the same plane, and the same length. On your current setup, you have a track bar drop bracket - it drops the track bar down a few inches. The pitman arm drops the drag link an equal amount. This prevents something called bumpsteer. So, when you go to the Currie TJS/TJJ track bar, you'll need to get a stock pitman arm because it uses the stock mount...and all that other track bar bracing junk can be removed. This Currie setup with the stock pitman arm will be FAR superior to your current junk, and the DW will be gone...provided all the other steering components are in good shape.
Thank you again, this is great information. I will replace my set up ASAP.

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WOW....that is an amazingly awful setup. Who makes that contraption?

I thought the TB setup on my TJ was bad when I bought it, but that takes the cake.
I have no clue who makes this kit, I purchased my Jeep this way. It never crossed my mind to work on the components until I started fighting Death Wobble. It is what it is, pretty soon I will upgrade. Laters,
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What do you think of this bar? I like the idea of keeping my drop Pitman Arm. Let me know. Thanks,
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UnlimitedLJ04 knows what he's talking about. I'd listen to him. Sacrificing quality because you'll be saving a few bucks is never worth it.
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What do you think of this bar? I like the idea of keeping my drop Pitman Arm. Let me know. Thanks,
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thats only a good idea if you're looking to create major problems with tie-rod clearance.

I recommended the Currie TJS/TJJ + stock pitman arm + 2" bumpstop extensions for a good reason - it works.
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I have a JKS trackbar but it's not installed yet... I believe it's supposed to clear the stock diff cover unless you have a D44 front axle (Rubicon) with less than 2.5" of lift.
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I have a JKS trackbar but it's not installed yet... I believe it's supposed to clear the stock diff cover unless you have a D44 front axle (Rubicon) with less than 2.5" of lift.
don't install it, its gonna hit the diff, send it back. see pictures above. requires 2" front bumpstop extensions with stock diff cover & tie-rod, D30 or D44.
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thats only a good idea if you're looking to create major problems with tie-rod clearance.

I recommended the Currie TJS/TJJ + stock pitman arm + 2" bumpstop extensions for a good reason - it works.
Very well, I rather go with something proved and tested. I will visit my local junk yards for that stock pitman arm and see if I can find the other components locally or order online. Thanks again. Laters,
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don't install it, its gonna hit the diff, send it back. see pictures above. requires 2" front bumpstop extensions with stock diff cover & tie-rod, D30 or D44.
I installed bumpstop extensions when I installed my 3" Zone Lift. Any idea what length those kits come with...I don't recall?

Will it only hit at full flex or what? I'm not doing any extreme flexing...too late to send it back prolly. It's been sitting around a while...just been too lazy to install it.
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Very well, I rather go with something proved and tested. I will visit my local junk yards for that stock pitman arm and see if I can find the other components locally or order online. Thanks again. Laters,
Stock pitman arm: OMIX-ADA Part # 1800605, under $23 on RockAuto.
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Nevermind on my last post...looked it up on Zone's website. My lift included 2" bumpstop extensions. I should be fine then, correct?
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I installed bumpstop extensions when I installed my 3" Zone Lift. Any idea what length those kits come with...I don't recall?

Will it only hit at full flex or what? I'm not doing any extreme flexing...too late to send it back prolly. It's been sitting around a while...just been too lazy to install it.
I'm not sure what Zone's kit comes with...take a tape measure outside and measure em

Without 2" bumpstop extensions, the JKS hits on the street...thats the problem. Speed bumps, dips, pot holes, etc. If you have the old style JKS, you hit the diff cover like the above pic. If you have the new style JKS, you hit the tie-rod without 2" bumpstops. You have an aftermarket diff cover its gonna be worse.

With a 3" lift, 2" bumpstop extensions won't be bad...you're still gaining 1" uptravel over stock.

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Nevermind on my last post...looked it up on Zone's website. My lift included 2" bumpstop extensions. I should be fine then, correct?
as long as you keep the stock diff cover, yes should be ok.

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