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Old 04-08-2010, 07:59 PM   #1
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Trade my TJ for a JK?

I am thinking of trading my TJ X for a JK Rubicon. I have had my TJ for less than 2 years, but knowing what I do now, I should have waited for a Rubi. I found a used JK Rubicon and the mileage and price are great.

I know some TJ owners don't like the JKs, but when you want to wheel with 3 or 4 people in the same vehicle, the TJ just does not have enough room.

To me it is a no brainer, but the can of worms is now open. What do you think? Would you trade?

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If you have to have the room then, yeah. Otherwise, probably not. They both have their advantages and disadvantages, but it seems to me like there are still some kinks to be worked out in the JK's. That being said, if someone gave me one.... Heck ya I'd drive it with big ol' smile on my face... Just like I do my TJ!

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I think the 4-door JKs are uglier than a sack of @$$h0!es, but the 2-door ones are growing on me. I also think the 2-door JK Rubicons are about as good as you get for a stock vehicle....go for it. Me, I'll stick to my TJ.
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I have several friends that have the 4 door JKs, they wheel the heck out of them.
Not just puddle jumping either!

There are a few little things that should be addressed right from the get-go (front trac bar brackets tend to rip, reinforce braces on the inner "C" on the front axle housing) but after that with a minor lift and bigger tires, they're pretty impressive.

If a four door is what you're looking for, I'd say go for it.
Oh yea.. if you can, get that power front disconnect, I hear it's sweet as nanner puddin.

But for me, I had the choice when I got mine of either the new 06 TJ or the new 07 JK.
Sorry, but I'll stick to my TJ as well. My needs aren't the same as yours though
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Old 04-08-2010, 08:19 PM   #6
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I have plenty of room. I used to park my 02 Avalanche in the same spot in my garage that my TJ is sitting. I would be going from 3.07 gears to 4.11 gears plus all the rest of the Rubicon extras.

I am most likely going to do it (if the financing goes through), but I was wondering what you all thought about it. I consider all of you my "family". Less disfuntional than my own, believe it or not. So I value your input.

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Inferno is right. I own a 2 door JK, but have driven TJ's, 4 door JK's etc and to be quite honest, I wouldn't like wheeling one. I know it's not technically much bigger than a 2 door, but it's noticeable. I don't care what anyone says, manuverability takes a hit for the added space.

I would honestly say too that if money weren't an option, I'd take a 2 door X JK over a 4 door Rubicon.

If you want a 2 door Rubicon, get it. But as far as TJ vs. 2 dr. JK in real life, the JK's suck getting in the back, just like the TJ's.
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Not trying to be argumentative, really, but even though you lose some turning radius, they have that added stretch that the Xj enjoys. They will climb up a rock cliff that will tumble a TJ and are incredibly sure footed in places where the shorter wheel bases can't quite reach.

I just don't care for the way the JK looks. I really don't like the interior. The TJ is a lot more comfortable for me. Your mileage may vary.

Heck, see if your dealership will let you give one a test drive, or call someone you know who has one and see if you can go wheelin this weekend and drive it a bit and see how you like it!
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Not trying to be argumentative, really, but even though you lose some turning radius, they have that added stretch that the Xj enjoys. They will climb up a rock cliff that will tumble a TJ and are incredibly sure footed in places where the shorter wheel bases can't quite reach.

I just don't care for the way the JK looks. I really don't like the interior. The TJ is a lot more comfortable for me. Your mileage may vary.

Heck, see if your dealership will let you give one a test drive, or call someone you know who has one and see if you can go wheelin this weekend and drive it a bit and see how you like it!
That's an excellent idea. Do this fo'sho. You'll know pretty quickly if you like it or not.
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Kate is right on regarding the turning radius. I have an 08 Sahara 4 dr and love it. It does everything that I want it to do for me except the turning radius. I also have a 98 TJ and have been on old mine roads that are one way in and the same way out. One in particular is a cliff road with about a 100' drop that there is no way you would turn the 4dr around. It would have to be backed out. The TJ will do it with about 3 back and forth shifts to turn it around. Fun time though.
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I forgot to specify, I am looking at an 07 4-door JK Rubicon. I need the extra room. My TJ gets used all the time in the summer for "Jeep rides". My wife and I get in the Jeep and just drive. We pull up to an intersection and I ask "right, left or straight?" then we just go. I keep my gps on so we don't get lost. I live in Wisconsin, and last year we found Matt Kenseth's shop in Cambridge completely by chance. We stopped in, looked around and then hit the road again. It was something that we never would have purposely gone out of our way to do.
I have a 14 year old son and if he and one of his friends tags along on our "Jeep ride", the TJ becomes very crowded. Especially for me. I need to move my seat up, I'm 6'1" and I need to shift.
Maybe once my son moves out I will go back to a 2-door, but right now my needs are for a 4-door and I do not want to get anything with a permanent top. For me the 4-door JK is Wrangler's answer to cutting the top off of a Cherokee.

I won't know for sure if I am getting it until Saturday, so this may have been a useless thread.
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sounds like you've already made your decision.
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Old 04-09-2010, 05:51 AM   #14
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If I had the money, I would trade my TJ in on a JK Rubi 4 door ... :/
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I opted for an 05 LJ -- seems to be quieter, with plenty of cargo space. The kids love to see me rollin' up to pick them up from school in it!
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take one out on a logging road and try to turn around.many times i was happy for the tj short wheelbase.i will stay with my tj.
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Not trying to be argumentative, really, but even though you lose some turning radius, they have that added stretch that the Xj enjoys. They will climb up a rock cliff that will tumble a TJ and are incredibly sure footed in places where the shorter wheel bases can't quite reach.

I just don't care for the way the JK looks. I really don't like the interior. The TJ is a lot more comfortable for me. Your mileage may vary.

Heck, see if your dealership will let you give one a test drive, or call someone you know who has one and see if you can go wheelin this weekend and drive it a bit and see how you like it!
The JK 4dr takes a "mindset", they're quite different than any other jeep/4wd/suv, but

There are a lot of pro's and a few con's

I came from an '06 Xterra Off Road/5-spd and that was hard to give up, but

I'm more than satisfied with the JK "unlimited" Rubi (4dr)

Big deciaion, think it out

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One thing that bothers me about the jk is the power. I'm sure it's fine but my dads 2door jk feels doggy in comparison to my tj that's sitting on 35s and 3.73 gears(need to change that). I've never been in a four door jk but I can imagine it would be a bit worse. I must say though, his jk is a nice cushy little ride.
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sure go for it... if you want a giant piece of plastic, to go to the super market,lol. I think JK's (4 doors) look like a Hummer( so uglyer than a dead and rotting animal on the side of a desert road), but the 2-doors i can live with once lifted and all that jazz, but a TJ for me. Once you get a JK i think you will forget how to wave though.....
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Personally, after having worked on a JK Rubicon in my garage all weekend, I would definitely go for an LJ Rubicon instead.

I would hate having a JK for several reasons. First, they have a double-wall tub that makes them a ROYAL PITA to install things like rocker guards. The rocker guards that would have taken me 2-3 hours to install on a TJ took me a day and a half with a friend's JK. You can't simply through-bolt things onto the JK's tub, you have to use threaded inserts that are a PITA and an even bigger PITA to get into precisely the correct location if there are a lot of them needed for what you are installing... like rocker guards.

It's put together more like a car which means it is harder to install accessories. The TJ is easy to work on, the JK is not... at least not from what I experienced.

I drove her JK several times over the weekend & it drove and sounded like a van inside. To me, the JK is the least Jeep-like Jeep I have ever encountered.
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On that note, double walled tubs and so on...

History has taught me that double walled body parts get the cancer rust.

Look at some of the older vehicles that have the double walls... bad juju right there.

We jut took a friends Cherokee Chief up to him two days ago. The thing was rust free everywhere EXCEPT the double walled fender flares, they are cancered out.
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get an LJ if its kids in the back, and just a bit of room needed.

I've already said it, since this was my first jeep purchase I've learned from it.

My Next one will have 3 things different.
1. it'll be a LJ
2. it'll be a Rubicon
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love my 04 LJ am on the look out for a LJ Rubi ill scoop it up if i find one but for the mild wheeling i do ill add lockers and gears and be just fine, test drove plenty and the LJ rides and handles better plus like stated the extra wheel base is nice for the kids and picking up drunk fiends lol
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get an LJ if its kids in the back, and just a bit of room needed.

I've already said it, since this was my first jeep purchase I've learned from it.

My Next one will have 3 things different.
1. it'll be a LJ
2. it'll be a Rubicon
3. it'll be an Automatic
second the Rubicon
mines already Auto and LJ
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If you are thinking about a 6 speed DANIMAL, you should research the dreaded POG ( popping out of gear) problem the JK owners are dealing with.
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To me, the JK's look nice with the right amount of lift and wheels and all that... The only thing is, it's pretty much plastic.. I hate most, MOST JKs because they never wave and they are always talking on the phone (a lot of people in my town don't wave and they talk on the phone).
If it's just for the room, I'd go with an LJ..
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Thanks for all the opinions. I will be test driving an 07 4-door Rubicon later this morning. It only has 21,000 miles on it for around $22,000. To me that is a steal. It is also a big red flag to look for problems. The dealer is very reputable nationwide.

It is a 6-speed and I have recently read the thread on the "JOG". Being that this Jeep only has 21,000 miles on it, it should still be covered by factory warranty. I'm not worried.

I have driven the 4-doors on road and I really like them. I drove one in Mexico, and I drove 3 different ones last week, new Rubi, a used Sahara and a brand new, lifted sport.

As far as it being "plastic", I don't mind. I had an 02 Chevy Avalanche with all the cladding on it. No door dings.

Longer wheelbase may not be the best for wheeling, but as I only go a couple of times a year, the road ride is my most important thing. Besides after it is lifted and has bigger tires, it will wheel just fine for what I do. There are a couple of 4-door Rubicons in the group that I wheel with and they do a great job.

Best thing is that it is a Rubicon.

I will never forget to wave My wife thinks I am a "dork" for waving, but I do it anyways.

Don't get me wrong, I love my TJ. I have always liked Wranglers and I can't see me driving anything but a Wrangler. It is the Ultimate vehicle. How many other convertibles can go through 2 feet of mud, and how many other off-road capable vehicles have a convertable top. (I am talking stock vehicles)

Thanks for all the input, I will let you know later how the test drive went.

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Just as soon as you get it home, post up some pics!

Aw hell, start your build thread, 'cause you KNOW you're gonna mod it!

Happy Day! Dan gets a new Jeep!

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