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Old 01-03-2009, 05:29 PM   #31
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i also never stated anything about an 8.8 i pulled from what you stated earlier and went with what ive helped do! i don't care if an 8.8 is or isn't stonger (even though it is) and who gives a shit where you get your info from, i am telling you that i have done most of this and i've seen alot of these things break and how they are fixed, and yes you are giving out bad advise, telling someone to re gear to make up for a lack of power!

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i also never stated anything about an 8.8 i pulled from what you stated earlier and went with what ive helped do! i don't care if an 8.8 is or isn't stonger (even though it is) and who gives a shit where you get your info from, i am telling you that i have done most of this and i've seen alot of these things break and how they are fixed, and yes you are giving out bad advise, telling someone to re gear to make up for a lack of power!
so instead of regearing he should yank the 4 banger and put in a V8?

The fact that you are telling someone not to regear after installing larger tires disqualifies you from this conversation



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don't think that you can come on here because you just bought a jeep and read an issue of off road mag and think that you know everything, like is said, i've helped swap axles, i've driven a 4 banger and a 4 liter, i've replace 3 bad ax5 trannys, ive seen 31s break a d35 i've seen stock tires break those tired axles!
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i didn't tell him to swap, if he is seriouse he should and i agreed with someone else that he should sell and buy a 4.0 to start with...and who the hell are you sying goodbye to your the one telling peopole bull shit, so go read antoher jeeper magazine and tell people that you are god so you can feel better
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don't think that you can come on here because you just bought a jeep and read an issue of off road mag and think that you know everything, like is said, i've helped swap axles, i've driven a 4 banger and a 4 liter, i've replace 3 bad ax5 trannys, ive seen 31s break a d35 i've seen stock tires break those tired axles!
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so instead of regearing he should yank the 4 banger and put in a V8?

The fact that you are telling someone not to regear after installing larger tires disqualifies you from this conversation



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you are missing the point and i am afraid that you might indeed not know what you are talking about
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look at least you got the swap right! don't swap one or the other they are both incredibly weak, find an old ford t18 4 speed tranny and a nice fi 302 or any other swap, alot of engine/trannys will fit in your jeep. if you can weld you are fine! just remember never replace the 4 banger and not the tranny, it is sooooooo damn weak!!!! the engine will last through alot of floggings but you will never be satisfied with the power. good luck
how can I mis the point when it's in your own words
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re gearing does not solve the problem, if he has that drive train he doesn't need those tires! you can do it but you are accelerating the life of your engine, tranny, and axles. and in doing such have no room to complain for destroying your jeep, you wanna upgrade , you need to start with a good platform, i don't put 33s on a toyota camry or a subaru impreza...i almost think you would!
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absolutely not you are not only going to be dissatisfied but you will be wasting money on worthless axles. i don't know why anyone thinks regearing helps much but you will be blowing more money than you think, a complete rebuild for the front and rear end( if your gonna be professional about it) and those axles wheeling are a wast in the first place, sell and buy a new one. the only way to come out, don't settle and just regear its not worth it!!!


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re gearing does not solve the problem, if he has that drive train he doesn't need those tires! you can do it but you are accelerating the life of your engine, tranny, and axles. and in doing such have no room to complain for destroying your jeep, you wanna up gread, you need to start with a good platform, i don't put 33s on a toyota camry or a subaru impreza...i almost think you would!
sorry, can't buy that. Too many people have had 33's and 4.88's behind 4 bangers for too many years. That would negate your assertion
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yeah and alot of people complain about there rigs lacking power regardless of regearing and also we are talking 33's and your earlier post was speaking about ground clearance and 35's so i believe that you shouldn't have the right so talk...should i say good by?

the whole 4 banger driveline sucks and you can't prove i am wrong, from the shitty tranny to the lack of power, putting diff gears in won't change that. my friend runns 42 on his stock 4 banger...he has broke axles, is on his 2nd tranny, just rebuilt his enigne and has broken countless other things...he has been wasting his money on prolonging a problem that can't be solved by fixing stock parts...so you know what i will end this by saying go on and re gear, i don't have to live with that shitty decision
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yeah and alot of people complain about there rigs lacking power regardless of regearing and also we are talking 33's and your earlier post was speaking about ground clearance and 35's so i believe that you shouldn't have the right so talk...should i say good by?

the whole 4 banger driveline sucks and you can't prove i am wrong, from the shitty tranny to the lack of power, putting diff gears in won't change that. my friend runns 42 on his stock 4 banger...he has broke axles, is on his 2nd tranny, just rebuilt his enigne and has broken countless other things...he has been wasting his money on prolonging a problem that can't be solved by fixing stock parts...so you know what i will end this by saying go on and re gear, i don't have to live with that shitty decision
you do very well talking in circles

First, not every Jeeper out there wants a big Jeep with a V8. Sorry to break it to you but it's true. A 4 banger does quite well on 33's and even 35's when properly geared.
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this could have all been avoided had you not called me a troll and i never had a v8 in mine but the smart money is putting in a cheap and common 302 instead of something like ...a 4.0 jeep engine! that is why i suggested that. teaching others from my experience...i wouldn't run in circles if you wouldn't run your mouth! you make a good first impression..


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the 2.4L automatics came from the factory with 4.56. I believe the OP has 4.10's and should go to 4.88
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UMMM

your "put in a V8" post was #3

Mine response was #11

face it. Your "experience" is unwarranted in this thread. There for it was trolling for a rise out of someone. I'm just glad it was you that became upset instead of the OP
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[QUOTE=yjwrangler;302306]absolutely not you are not only going to be dissatisfied but you will be wasting money on worthless axles. i don't know why anyone thinks regearing helps much but you will be blowing more money than you think, a complete rebuild for the front and rear end( if your gonna be professional about it) and those axles wheeling are a wast in the first place, sell and buy a new one. the only way to come out, don't settle and just regear its not worth it!!![/QUOTE

i don't think that i called you any kind of name there....but i am glad to see you have manned up and shut up!
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i think this pissing match has scared away a new member. i'm gonna try to put together a thought, since my head hurts from reading all that .........
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i followed up my post with an agreement with some one else about just sellin and starting over, i am tired of you telling me good by or something to that extent and i absolutely take responsibility for loosing it first, you called me a troll and talk shit of my advise that is as you would say "my opinion" and i am entitled to it. what i said is a largely popular swap that is great on and off road.
and it wasn't to get a rise out of anyone bud i was trying to help this guy out
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dave wtf can we get tiny to lock this thread i can't stop gettin mad over this clown
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DUde,
The guy just bought the Jeep and your telling him to sell it or drop 10K


who's whacked?
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personal opinion is getting way out of hand here. on one hand, regearing brings larger tires back to a more stock ratio. imo going from 4.10 or so to 4.88 in the 4 banger is barely noticeable, and i've done it. regearing is expensive. i don't know what the 2.4 came with, someone said 4.10 or 4.56, (is that manual trans though, or both?) if thats the case regearing is kind of a waste, as far as bang for the buck. now if it was going from 3.07 or so to 4.88 now there's gonna be a noticeable difference. if his ratio is already 4.10 or 4.56 he isn't gonna get what he's looking for by spending over a grand or two in gears.

jeremy, you just hate the 4 cylinder so much, and i know why. and i also know from experience there's not much to do to that motor power wise, and as far as topic, switching trans isn't an option in my mind, not even close to worthwhile. i know what you're saying, don't waste time and money on that driveline, and i agree, but i've also done it. you get your new jeep, you can't or won't sell it, so you build on it.

but, is a newer jeep owner gonna take his newly acquired 98 tj and swap the driveline out? probably not, probably making payments even. he probably would've been perfectly happy with a 4.0 jeep, but thats beside the point.

spending money on the 4 banger will not make a leap in power, and swapping the driveline probably isn't in this guys plans right now. the topic didn't really have anything to do with axles if i remember right, so i'm gonna skip that part.

p.s. lets disagree with a little more respect for eachother.
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i said fine re gear the damn thing i guess you must be right...you can get a good drive train for 1500, new axles for about 1000 for a built set.. and maybe several pizzas and beers for your friends who helped you...so yeah i guess those pizzas are about 7500 or 8 grand .. but hey your right anyway.. i admit it
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personal opinion is getting way out of hand here. on one hand, regearing brings larger tires back to a more stock ratio. imo going from 4.10 or so to 4.88 in the 4 banger is barely noticeable, and i've done it. regearing is expensive. i don't know what the 2.4 came with, someone said 4.10 or 4.56, (is that manual trans though, or both?) if thats the case regearing is kind of a waste, as far as bang for the buck. now if it was going from 3.07 or so to 4.88 now there's gonna be a noticeable difference. if his ratio is already 4.10 or 4.56 he isn't gonna get what he's looking for by spending over a grand or two in gears.

jeremy, you just hate the 4 cylinder so much, and i know why. and i also know from experience there's not much to do to that motor power wise, and as far as topic, switching trans isn't an option in my mind, not even close to worthwhile. i know what you're saying, don't waste time and money on that driveline, and i agree, but i've also done it. you get your new jeep, you can't or won't sell it, so you build on it.

but, is a newer jeep owner gonna take his newly acquired 98 tj and swap the driveline out? probably not, probably making payments even. he probably would've been perfectly happy with a 4.0 jeep, but thats beside the point.

spending money on the 4 banger will not make a leap in power, and swapping the driveline probably isn't in this guys plans right now. the topic didn't really have anything to do with axles if i remember right, so i'm gonna skip that part.

p.s. lets disagree with a little more respect for eachother.
thanks man i was just aching for this guy to not wast money when plenty of us here have already made these mistakes...
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i said fine re gear the damn thing i guess you must be right...you can get a good drive train for 1500, new axles for about 1000 for a built set.. and maybe several pizzas and beers for your friends who helped you...so yeah i guess those pizzas are about 7500 or 8 grand .. but hey your right anyway.. i admit it
that's all well and fine IF you have the resources.

If the OP is a banker and never turned a wrench it's going to cost him 10k for a 1ton v8 conversion.

we don't know

a 98 4 banger auto was 4.10. It needs 4.88

anybody know where the dude lives? that factors into what his plans could be too.
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yeah and alot of people complain about there rigs lacking power regardless of regearing and also we are talking 33's and your earlier post was speaking about ground clearance and 35's so i believe that you shouldn't have the right so talk...should i say good by?

When I put 35's on my 97 SE, with 3:73 gears it was very bad, then after regearing to 4:88's I could actually drive freeway speeds. There is a lack of power regardless, but it is a big enough difference to make regearing worth it: Like being able to drive on the freeway to work.

It sounds like you need to calm down, and if I remember correctly, Never Monday copied that information from his own post in another thread where people were arguing about D35/D44/8.8's



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the whole 4 banger driveline sucks and you can't prove i am wrong, from the shitty tranny to the lack of power, putting diff gears in won't change that. my friend runns 42 on his stock 4 banger...he has broke axles, is on his 2nd tranny, just rebuilt his enigne and has broken countless other things...he has been wasting his money on prolonging a problem that can't be solved by fixing stock parts...so you know what i will end this by saying go on and re gear, i don't have to live with that shitty decision
Try running 42's on ANY stock wrangler driveline, you will break things no matter what. And I'm sure if he left the stock gearing he would go slower that a small child on a scooter. (I hope he did regear)

I can't believe anyone would suggest against regearing after putting on bigger tires.
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I can't believe anyone would suggest against regearing after putting on bigger tires.
you can't argue regearing is bad. it should be done with bigger tires. but is the op gonna get what he really thinks he's gonna get? if he has 4.56 w/ 33's. 4.88 won't even put him back at a stock ratio, it will be better. but hardly noticeable for the cost.

i think he needs to drive the jeep for a while, hang around the forum, and decide what he likes, and wants to do with the jeep, and then decide how to go about it.

and jeremy, you may be ugly, but i don't think you look like a troll
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When I put 35's on my 97 SE, with 3:73 gears it was very bad, then after regearing to 4:88's I could actually drive freeway speeds. There is a lack of power regardless, but it is a big enough difference to make regearing worth it: Like being able to drive on the freeway to work.

It sounds like you need to calm down, and if I remember correctly, Never Monday copied that information from his own post in another thread where people were arguing about D35/D44/8.8's

my main concern was just spending the extra money on something that kinda wont' help to much (given his current gears)




Try running 42's on ANY stock wrangler driveline, you will break things no matter what. And I'm sure if he left the stock gearing he would go slower that a small child on a scooter. (I hope he did regear)
yeah he didn't re gear and he is slow...i am amazied taht he can go highway speeds but he doesn't even use 5th and barely 4rth!
I can't believe anyone would suggest against regearing after putting on bigger tires.
having an auto and those big tires his 4 low is gonna suck regardless, my friend has the same jeep basically and he doesn't seem all that impressed. idk just my opinion.....sorry i blew up!

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you can't argue regearing is bad. it should be done with bigger tires. but is the op gonna get what he really thinks he's gonna get? if he has 4.56 w/ 33's. 4.88 won't even put him back at a stock ratio, it will be better. but hardly noticeable for the cost.

i think he needs to drive the jeep for a while, hang around the forum, and decide what he likes, and wants to do with the jeep, and then decide how to go about it.

and jeremy, you may be ugly, but i don't think you look like a troll
thanks dave...you always make me feel more like a pretty person...even if it is only on the inside
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IMO The super 35 isn't a bad deal for some people. I bought a brand new super 35 kit with arb for like 400 shipped. There seem to be people that run supper 35's with 33's to 35's no prob so It may not be a waste of money for every body.
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