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Old 10-14-2009, 07:39 PM   #1
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Trying to make an educated decision...

I've got an 01' TJ sport with a 4" sus. lift with a tc drop kit with the d30/35 sitting on 33's with the god awful 3.07s....

god knows i'm wanting to beef these axles up and regear them with lockers....

i'd actually prefer to swap out both axles with new gear and swap out drive shafts and add a sye and add a 1" or 1.25" bl get a new front and rear bumper and rock sliders and a cb, and upgrade the head lights...hahah the list goes on...hahah only wish i actually made money...uncle same ain't generous...haha


but most importantly i'm wanting to take care of my axles first cause out of all that i listed it seems to be the only thing that's more of a necessity...

so if you wouldn't mind helping me plan how i should go about getting more out of these axles considering i don't have the cash to buy new ones or the know how/skill sets of welding or attempting a conversion....


thanks in advance fellas...

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The front D30 is ok with 33s and moderate offroading. In the rear some cheomoly axle shafts would help.

When you regear to 4.11 or 4.56 youīll need new diff cases. When you buy some lockers like ARB lockers you could upgrade to 30 spline.

Or you could search for 2 TJ Rubicon D44 axles at ebay or craigslist. They have lockes and 4.11 gears and their installation would be nearly plug-and-play.
IMO that would be cheapet than upgrading and regearing your axles.

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Old 10-14-2009, 07:53 PM   #3
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so have a d44 in the front and rear just tough out with 4.11s you think would be the best, eh? what kind of ball park do you think that would be in? how big of a difference do you think the 4.11s would have over the 3.07s?
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Umm last thing on the list is get out on the corner and work it!!! lol

If you were closer I would give you a great price on my d-30and d-35 with 4.10s. If you can go to the junk yard and find a tj with a dana 44 rear with 3.73's atleast. They are actually really easy to put in.
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If you haven't gotten more out of the insurance company than you deserve, then you haven't screwed them nearly as much as they have been screwing you for the past xx years.
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Old 10-14-2009, 07:59 PM   #5
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i'd have to spend many years on the corner to support all i want to do with my heep...
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^ haha well you better get going BTW I will take care of the jeep while your gone hehe.
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With 4.11 you have 1/3more RPM at the same speed than before.

2 ARB lockers + compressor: 1700$
2 4.11 R&Ps: 350$
2 axle overhaul kits: 200$
chromoly rear axle shafts: 300$
install costs: 800$

= 3250$


2 Rubicon D44 axles should be way cheaper. And they are stronger. Especially than a rear D35.
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^ haha well you better get going BTW I will take care of the jeep while your gone hehe.

don't think i wanna trust you...
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^ tell ya it will be built when you get it back. Might be a little rough around the edges tho.
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haha, that's what i'd be afraid of...no longer need to take yours to moab....lol here just take mine you are cleared of any damage that may occur
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I love the damage I do to mine hehe- even tho I am fully built in my axles tho (front and rear dana 44's)- chromoly air lockers 5.13 gears. 4banger motor!
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(front and rear dana 44's)- chromoly air lockers 5.13 gears.


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4banger motor!






Take care! I want your axles...
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Old 10-14-2009, 09:23 PM   #13
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^ I know you do ohh forgot to mention I have warn manual locking hubs on the front too (big brake kit also hehe)
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Old 10-14-2009, 09:29 PM   #14
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TJ sport with a 4" sus. lift with a tc drop kit with the d30/35 sitting on 33's with the god awful 3.07s....

god knows i'm wanting to beef these axles up and regear them with lockers....

i'd actually prefer to swap out both axles with new gear and swap out drive shafts and add a sye and add a 1" or 1.25" bl get a new front and rear bumper and rock sliders, and upgrade the head lights...hahah the list goes on...hahah only wish i actually made money...
Lol, its almost as if you wrote this about my Jeep lol, I have that exact setup except mines a 99.
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33" BFG A/T's 15" soft 8's
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^ I know you do ohh forgot to mention I have warn manual locking hubs on the front too (big brake kit also hehe)
I donīt see a reason why I should install a locking hub. But I realy want some rear disc brakes. All 03-06 TJs here in Euurope came with rear D44s, but they all have drums...
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Locking hubs are stronger. Also I can take all the wear off the front end driving the truck when I am not going to use 4 wheel drive.
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I remember locking hubs being annoying in my Ranger, having to get out everytime to go into 4wd wasn't all that bad, it was just a bit annoying. Plus mine were really hard to turn for some reason
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The only advantage I see is that you can drive home with a broken axle shaft and a broke n diff.
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I run them unlocked when I am not using 4wd. Then when going out to the trails I lock them and leave them locked since I am hooked up to air lockers
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BTW I had rear wheel drive without locking hubs in my TJ.
I had to remove the inner axle shafts because my ARB diff case was broken.
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^I know you showed us the pics lol. Locking hubs are also stronger then wheel bearings along with you can grease them when need be and rebuild them.
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But itīs expensive to install locking hubs.
I paid only about 60$ for two new wheel hubs on Tuesday.
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true but mine came on my axles . 1600 bucks for the front and rear hehe
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for both? incl lockers, gears and chromo shafts?
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Yep yep yep I gots me a good deal That also included the rubi stock air lines and air pumps that work too- 3000 miles on the setup!!
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Don't forget a couple things Nicolas:

First, that's in dollars, not euros.

Plus, JD is in the Chicago area, and thus probably "knows people".
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^ man is correct. Nicolas is probably trying to clean off his comp monitor right now of his cuppa tea that came out his nose.

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