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Old 08-15-2007, 08:14 AM   #1
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The stock springs on my 97 are sagging really bad. I hear that Rubicon springs are about 1" taller than normal springs for a TJ sport. i want 31's as you all know by now... here is my question.. will I get decent flex with rubicon springs a quick disco and 31x10.50s on 15x8's with 4.00" backspacing???

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Old 08-15-2007, 09:28 AM   #2
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The length of your shocks are what really limit your flex not your springs (if you're disconnected, of course). The Rubi springs will fix your sagging problem, However, I don't believe that they are any longer than stock. You'll ride a bit higher, but that is due to the spring rate.

tiny would be a good person to answer this question, she did a 2" budget boost with longer shocks and Rubi springs.

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Old 08-15-2007, 09:35 AM   #3
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what about getting the factory rubicon shocks as well? I am not a rock crawler.. I do light trails when I go camping or canoeing. Unimproved logging roads may be about as rough as I go. I cant afford to break my DD...I need the articulation to crawl over downed trees and the such.
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I did that exact thing in my 98 Sahara last year. Only thing diff I did was add 1.75" Daystar spacers at the same time. The rubi springs I used only had 500 miles on them and they gave me a good 1.25" of lift alone. And keep in mind, the Sahara springs I removed only had 45K on them. Got a total of 3" out of the lift and rode great. Better than before. Unlmtd's right, they're not any longer, just diff spring rate. I'd go with a less expensive set of hydro shocks with an extra 1.5-2.5" on them as opposed to stock rubi shocks.
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I did that exact thing in my 98 Sahara last year. Only thing diff I did was add 1.75" Daystar spacers at the same time. The rubi springs I used only had 500 miles on them and they gave me a good 1.25" of lift alone. And keep in mind, the Sahara springs I removed only had 45K on them. Got a total of 3" out of the lift and rode great. Better than before. Unlmtd's right, they're not any longer, just diff spring rate. I'd go with a less expensive set of hydro shocks with an extra 1.5-2.5" on them as opposed to stock rubi shocks.
did you put on new tires at the time you measured your lift height from the rubi springs? because 1.25" is hard to believe
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did you put on new tires at the time you measured your lift height from the rubi springs? because 1.25" is hard to believe
Nope. Already had my 31's on there a couple of weeks before the lift. I agree - I didn't believe they guy when he claimed it'd give me another 1.5". I would have been pleased with .75", but was suprised when I got the 1"+.
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I found some Rubi Springs of an '06 with 5K miles on them for $125. Thats why I asked.. I still would rather do the Rustys 2" kit. BUt this is cheaper which means i can fix my sag now.
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I found some Rubi Springs of an '06 with 5K miles on them for $125. Thats why I asked.. I still would rather do the Rustys 2" kit. BUt this is cheaper which means i can fix my sag now.
You can throw on some 1" spacers on while you're at it and you'll have the 2" you were looking for for less than $200. Shocks are not required *for now*. If you're not planning to be off road for a while you can probably get by.
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I found some Rubi Springs of an '06 with 5K miles on them for $125. Thats why I asked.. I still would rather do the Rustys 2" kit. BUt this is cheaper which means i can fix my sag now.
situations where you gain over 1" with the rubi springs are extremely rare so don't expect to gain that much...who knows, maybe it will happen, but i wouldn't count on it
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The stock springs on my 97 are sagging really bad. I hear that Rubicon springs are about 1" taller than normal springs for a TJ sport. i want 31's as you all know by now... here is my question.. will I get decent flex with rubicon springs a quick disco and 31x10.50s on 15x8's with 4.00" backspacing???


I don't know about "decent flex" because when I installed my disconnects I installed a budget boost too (meaning I never really flexed it without a lift), plus, flex is in the eye of the beholder. But, the 31's will fit just fine and you'll be good to go over light trails. The rubi's will ride rougher and higher, but I forgot to measure so I have no idea how much higher.
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rubi springs may ride a bit stiffer but its mainly about the shocks.
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Old 08-16-2007, 06:20 AM   #12
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situations where you gain over 1" with the rubi springs are extremely rare so don't expect to gain that much...who knows, maybe it will happen, but i wouldn't count on it
I will get gains of more than an inch on teh front end with stock springs off an SE. The front sits a little more than 2" lower than the back. the bump stop is 3 inches from touching sittin on level ground.
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my understanding with the rubi springs is they are a stiffer spring rate which doesn't allow them to compress as much. I can't remember if the spring rate was the same in 03 between the sports and rubis. If they are the same rate you could save some money because you could get regular sport or sahara springs.
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I will get gains of more than an inch on teh front end with stock springs off an SE. The front sits a little more than 2" lower than the back. the bump stop is 3 inches from touching sittin on level ground.
yeah...if your already sagging...

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