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Old 09-25-2010, 10:22 AM   #1
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Tummy tuck $2,200?!!

Does it really cost that much?!! Anyone done this before for cheaper, or themselves, is this even a project that i can do myself? Any help would be great bc that 2,200 can be spent on many MANY other things, thanks.

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Not sure where you came up with that price. They typically go for $350-$600 depending on which brand you buy. Some will require a Body Lify & Motor mount lift as well as Adj. Upper Control Arms and CV Driveshaft to help dial in the correct pinion angle.

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Old 09-25-2010, 11:32 AM   #3
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Have not done it, so take this reply for what it is worth. Parts alone on quadratec can run $500 depending on what kit you use (quadratec tends to be a little high on sole things). The other $1700 would then be labor and other miscellaneous charges and taxes. I can't imagine how this would take more than a day's labor at most dealer service departments. That would be $800 for what I get charged locally. You can probably find a 4x4 shop that does not charge $100 an hour. $2200 seems really high.
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Thats the price the local 4wd parts store quoted me. Involved was the skid plate, SYE, Drive shaft, all angles corrected, and a TC rasie something or other. Is it possible for a novice to do this, or part of this process on his own?
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Do it all yourself, take your time, start a project each weekend and do one at a time.

Basic tools and a floor jack.
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$2200 to gain an extra inch or so of undercarriage clearance seems a little ridiculous. I would start researching all the parts you need and how to do it yourself. It would probably cost you half that or less to do it on your own.

Removing and installing a crossmember/skid plate isnt hard at all. A body lift isnt hard and neither is the motor mount lift. All these things can easily be done with basic tools, a floor jack, some jack stands a driveway and some patience.
Maybe a friend to help out and a 12 pack too
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Old 09-26-2010, 01:02 PM   #7
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Hell i'll get 3 12 packs if I could get someone that knows what they're doing......ok wait a sec 1 12 pack to start the other 24 has to wait until the job is done.

Just found out I have a SYE(see other thread"how do you know if you have a SYE) so that should drive the price down. I need it bc the PO put a TC drop in it and while going over a water fall at Callente I got a little ding in my rear DS and dent the HELL outta my pan.
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I can't imagine why you would have a t-case drop and an sye with a cv driveshaft. You install a SYE and CV drive shaft to prevent having to lower the t-case skid. ???
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The shaft was added bc 3 weeks after buying the Jeep the Tcase cracked, had it hastily replaced bc I was on vacation then a year later it was about to happen again bc of stress from the angle of the shaft so 4wd parts added that cv style shaft and it's been good since. Thats about all I know so far, just learning as i go
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Ok then your next step in things to do is remove the spacers (TC drop) that are between the frame rail and the skidplate. Being that you have a SYE you dont need them anymore and your skidplate is just hanging an inch lower than it needs to be.

You can easily do this with a ratchet and I think a 3/4 socket or even a 19mm.
Do one side at a time. Put a floor jack under the middle of the skid nice and snug. Remove the 3 big bolts on one side and drop the skid down just enough to pull the spacers out. Raise the jack back up so the skid plate sits flush and replace the bolts. Repeat on other side.

Take note that most TC drops replace the original bolts with ones that are an inch longer. So before doing this you might have to get the shorter bolts.
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OH GREAT!!! I didnt put 2 and 2 together with the empty space between the case and skid plate!! This is why I love this site. I know it wont be flush but it'll still give me and inch to an inch an a 1/2. Thanks KBR
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jayc, the Raleigh 4wd parts (Glenwood Ave. I'm guessing) is very high on labor. They quoted me almost $500 to put in a body lift and they weren't sure they could do it in one day.

Look for other places and comparison shop.
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350 - Skid plate
210 - Adjustable upper rear control arms (minimum)
150 - SYE setup (if not equipped)
250 - New driveshaft
100 - Body lift
75 - Motor lift

Prices are approximate - 935.00

Prices will depend on brand of each of the items you have. I have everything but the skid plate and driveshaft ready to install or already installed. Some of it you can go ahead and do (adj arms, MML, BL).

Now if you want somebody to install it, I can see the labor cost jumping it up quick. But all of that stuff has writeups available on the net for how to do it easily enough yourself. My only concern is doing the SYE portion of the work. But I have access to an automotive shop with a lift, so that should be a lot easier.
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jayc, the Raleigh 4wd parts (Glenwood Ave. I'm guessing) is very high on labor. They quoted me almost $500 to put in a body lift and they weren't sure they could do it in one day.
Holy crap! I did my body lift and new taller motor mounts completely by myself, having never done it before in my life, in less than half a day. And that was taking my time and going slooow. The motor mounts took the majority of the time- I think the body lift took me all of an hour.
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The whole tuck thing seems like a total waste of money to me....just install a taller lift kit. Your gonna drag no matter what. I think its just something to spend money on that 98 percent of the time doesn't make one bit of difference.
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Holy crap! I did my body lift and new taller motor mounts completely by myself, having never done it before in my life, in less than half a day. And that was taking my time and going slooow. The motor mounts took the majority of the time- I think the body lift took me all of an hour.
I was debating having it installed due to time. Once they told me that, I decided the BL could wait until I had the time.
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A tummy tuck can be expensive depending on how much lift you have and what you already have installed for accessories. Take a look at undercoverfab.com, they have a skid that gains clearance without a body lift and a shorter trans mount that can work with their "original" high clearance skid without a body lift to gain 2" + of clearance. A taller lift is gonna cost you more and provide no additional benefits over a tummy tuck if you like to keep your jeeps cg low. More lift equals more off camber instability. Just my $.02.
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but for 2200 you could put in a set of full width axles and lift it alot higher, use larger tires, gain more ground clearance, and it would be more stable that one in stock form
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Thanks for all the info, I really appreciate it. I already have a 4" lift, not really wanting tot go too much higher than that. I took the spacers out yesterday, SCORE!! If I'd have had that extra inch I wouldnt have dinged myself up as I said earlier.

MCDavis-Yeah I was talking about the one on Glennwood, they're high on everything, their new catalouge boasts a tire sale and they're STILL MORE expensive then tirerack!!!

IBUILDEMBIG- I see where you're coming from there's NO WAY I was going to spend that kind of money for just a few inches. Was shocked and thought I'd share.

BEER30- so you've done a majority of this already, what all goes into a motor lift? I know I can do the BL myself no prob, just wasnt sure what all went into it. Thanks for some additional help.

ERICPL-thanks for the price guide. I already have the adj lowers on both the front and rear but the uppers are both stock still. I will need to change them definitely?

Thanks again everyone, oh and the spacers were easy, no floor jack but some jack stands, a paint can and my bottle jack worked great!!
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Apples to oranges bud. The $2200 is with installation. There is mo way that you're gonna get full width axles, a lift and tires installed for $2200! Plus I can fit 35's with my 2.5" lift, maintain the narrower track width and have the same breakover angle with someone with twice the lift and same size tires...for $350 as long as I do it myself, $550 is you include upper rear control arms. Plus the full width axles make it difficult to keep it street legal in a lot of states due to tire coverage laws. Again just my opinion, you have yours, but a tt is not a waste of money if done properly and for the right reasons.
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Not saying I was going with that setup just saying I wasnt going to spend 2,200. I just want to know what all goes into the TT so I can do a majority if not all myself. I would love to run 35s but havent upgraded my front axel, my rear has the 8.8 but the front still stock. My 33s are good for now, want the TT and a few other goodies for the time being like a winch ect.
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35's on a 2.5 eh? and how much body cut out do you have? we run 4.5 on 33's and still get close to rubbing at full travel.
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Not saying I was going with that setup just saying I wasnt going to spend 2,200. I just want to know what all goes into the TT so I can do a majority if not all myself. I would love to run 35s but havent upgraded my front axel, my rear has the 8.8 but the front still stock. My 33s are good for now, want the TT and a few other goodies for the time being like a winch ect.
You can run 35s on a D30 if you want. I'd recommend a chromoly axle upgrade like the Superior kit. I'd also consider trussing the D30 while you're at it. Ideally, a complete front end upgrade would be the way to go, like a D44, but you CAN use a D30 if you're smart about it. If you like to thrash on your Jeep pretty hard, I probably wouldn't run the D30. Many do and don't have any problems, especially with the Superior chromoly axle kit, but I'd want that extra peace of mind by running a D44 at least. I think Jerry Bransford ran the Superior Super 30 kit on his former rig with 35s and it held up well, even though he routinely ran it on some of the hardest trails around, so they ARE good upgrades. Just an option for you. Don't quote me on that. I THINK that's what Jerry ran. Either that or he has friends that run that setup. I know he recommends it.
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Yeah i've seen some of Jerrys pics, if he ran that setup then he really put it to the test so you know it's good!!

IBUILDEMBIG-who has a 2.5 lift? dont know if you're referring ot me or not but i'm running 4"

So any help on how hard this motor mount lift is?
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Afjeepman said he was running 35's on a 2.5...maybe in the mall parking lot
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HEY parking gets CRAZY over there!!!
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The whole tuck thing seems like a total waste of money to me....just install a taller lift kit. Your gonna drag no matter what. I think its just something to spend money on that 98 percent of the time doesn't make one bit of difference.
Okay so I was waiting for someone to say it first glad you did!

So here is my 2cents for what it's worth.

Why not just save your money and get a suspension lift at least there is a purpose to a suspension lift. Body lift is all about the looks and to me jeeps are designed to allow you to make them your own. If your not going to take your jeep off road then it would truly be a waist of money just trying to look like you take it off road. If you are going to take it off road save yourself more money later by doing it right the first time. I am not trying to be nasty please dont take it that way. Owning a jeep is costly anyway just ask anyone. But just like any hobby it cost to have fun. But when your having fun it sure Rocks!
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35's on a 2.5 eh? and how much body cut out do you have? we run 4.5 on 33's and still get close to rubbing at full travel.
No rub at all, proper bumpstops and eventually tube fenders...I have 4" of uptravel with 35's and 6 or 7" of downtravel which is pretty good IMO for a dd considering my suspension is short, and I plan on outboarding the rear shocks in the future and doing custom lower mounts for the front shocks so I can run 14" travel shocks
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Umm yeah I wanna see pics of it in the woods at full travel....my ole man just got back from CO and he was on some pretty challenging trails for a street jeep and he almost rubbed a few times with a long arm 4.5 and 305 mickeys
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jeepgurl-I know you're not trying to be nasty but you're being insulting. I have 4" of lift as is, 33s, 8.8 rear end, lock rites in the front and 456 gears. I DO take my rig offroading, i'm not doing a tuck to make it "look" like i offroad. I ran into a prob on a trail(if I taken the spacers out sooner would not have had said problem), met a few other jeepers that same weekend who did have the tuck and loved it. If it'll only cost a grand to make the bottom of the jeep flush with the frame then why not? If trussing the front axel and going with the kit that cavediver mentioned and getting 35s was an option i would do that but then i would lose MPG(still my DD for now) and possibly have to regear again.it's not just for looks, there's a legit reason i'm looking into this, and like a siad before there's no WAY i was going to pay 2,200 to get this done.

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