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Old 08-25-2012, 09:49 PM   #1
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Tummy tuck- 2nd opinions

I was considering a small (2-2.5") suspension lift (I'm running 31s), but have had the idea of a tummy tuck stuck in my head for the past few weeks. I like the idea of keeping a somewhat stock ride, keeping my center of gravity on the lower side, and increasing overall ground clearance. Is there any reason NOT to go that route first, financial limits aside? To me it makes sense to do that first, and I could decide on the perfect lift later on as most components needed for said lift would already be installed. Just wanted your $.02 worth. Thanks!

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Old 08-25-2012, 10:40 PM   #2
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I would go for it especially on a lcog rig. I think the tummy tuck is a very underrated mod..

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Old 08-25-2012, 10:57 PM   #3
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I just see it as the smarter move (at least for now). The cheapest? Definitely not, but still VERY beneficial.
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Old 08-26-2012, 01:53 AM   #4
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That's absolutely the smarter way to go about it. Build from the foundation up. It's too bad more people don't think like that.
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Old 08-26-2012, 06:30 AM   #5
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for a tummy tuck you will need to do a 1 inch body lift, so the trans case can move up, and when you do that you need to add 1 inch motor mounts/spacers, and when you do that you will need to move fan couling so the fan doesn't hit it, and because of the body lift you will most likely have to do extended brake lines and a bend in your gear stick or cut hole in trans tunnel bigger if it's a manual so that will work without restriction.

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Old 08-26-2012, 06:49 AM   #6
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WRNGLR:

A tummy tuck is a bit more involved but for a 1" BL and 1" MML you will not need to relocate the fan shroud or extend the brake lines ...

Subscribing, a tummy tuck is something I look to do someday.
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Old 08-26-2012, 07:05 AM   #7
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I have an 06 TJ rubicon and I did a 1" body lift and a 1" motor mount lift. The motor mount lift took care of the fan to shroud contact issue. I did not have to change brake lines nor modify my transmission tunnel. I did notice that my gas tank lines seamed a little stretched but I have been running like this for a few years with no problems. My intentions are to run a tummy tucker but haven't got around to it. To fix the gas tank lines I am getting genright gas tank skid that raises the tank by 1" which brinks everything to stock. I think your have great idea and heading in the right direction. I should have gone that way but I just got in rough country new 4" x-series lift kit, currie steering linkage, warrior steering box brace, poly performance heavy duty ball joints and 35 x 12.50 R15 on American racing 15 x 8 Baja wheels. I wore out my ball joints and track bar and have death wobble so I decided to rebuild the whole suspension.
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Old 08-26-2012, 07:09 AM   #8
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I forgot to mentioned with the tummy tucker you will need a rear driveshaft.
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Old 08-26-2012, 07:13 AM   #9
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A tummy tuck is a bit more involved but for a 1" BL and 1" MML you will not need to relocate the fan shroud or extend the brake lines ...

Subscribing, a tummy tuck is something I look to do someday.
so whats involved ? please elaborate, I may have been misinformed by the sound of things.
Agree with the fan shroud now you point it out , didn't think that through did I? DUH
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Old 08-26-2012, 10:03 AM   #10
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If it matters, I'm considering the AEV kit- apparently no BL is required (nor any tub modification unless there's a manufacturing tolerance issue). Since I'm stock (besides 31s), I might try to get away with no SYE/CV yet- I will do more research and see what I can and can't do.
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That's absolutely the smarter way to go about it. Build from the foundation up. It's too bad more people don't think like that.
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Old 08-26-2012, 10:11 AM   #12
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After all that is said and done, a TT is not a cheap upgrade.

For a 2" lift, aside from procuring the transfer case skid, I also purchased and installed:
  • SYE
  • Rear DC drive shaft
  • Adjustable rear upper and lower control arms
  • Rear adjustable track bar
  • Rear track bar relocation bracket

I did not have to adjust my brake lines, fan shroud or my transmission.
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Old 08-26-2012, 10:27 AM   #13
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Island- good to know. I currently don't have a lift and only have 31s. I understand that with ANY lift a SYE/DS are going to be needed, but I've yet to hear anyone's personal experience w/ a TT on stock-suspension. That's my single outstanding variable I've yet to nail down. Will I get a SYE/DS eventually even if I don't immediately require one? Yes, but if I can hold off on spending $500+ on them for a little while, that would REALLY allow for this project to happen sooner than later.
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I think with just a TT you will be fine without a drive shaft. There is enough slip to work fine. My concern would be the pinon angle. raisin the output shaft increases the pinon angle pretty good. Just check it and make sure there is no binding in the ds before driving it. When I installed my TT it went on before my suspensions lift, I wasn't comfortable with the way the drive shaft looked when I mocked it back up out of curiosity.

As far as relocating the fan shroud, not needed with a MML, and there is a little bracket you can get to extend the brake lines. I suggest them with a BL because mine were stretched tight without them.
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Jason- adjustable control arms would solve the pinion angle, I do believe. Good info
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After all that is said and done, a TT is not a cheap upgrade.

For a 2" lift, aside from procuring the transfer case skid, I also purchased and installed:
  • SYE
  • Rear DC drive shaft
  • Adjustable rear upper and lower control arms
  • Rear adjustable track bar
  • Rear track bar relocation bracket

I did not have to adjust my brake lines, fan shroud or my transmission.
You may also need a Novak Shift Cable, rear shock relocation brackets, possible body lift, new transmission mount and new hardware. It is not a cheap upgrade if done correctly. Just under $1500 is a good ballpark price.
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Old 10-31-2012, 10:13 AM   #17
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Scottyman what did you end up doing. i have a 99 TJ with 31's and did a 2" body 1" mm. i have the 2.5l so i know i can't go to big but was looking at a 2" suspension and a TT. and i am trying to piece it all together.

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