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Old 03-26-2014, 12:37 PM   #1
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Unlimited vs. Unlimited Rubicon

Hello everyone,

I am about to venture into LJ land... they are awesome!

So I am looking far and wide, local and plane trips away... I have it narrowed down... I actually found one in the exact color option I want but it is not a Rubicon and has 2 tops.. there is a one 10 hours away that is same with more miles hardtop only and a rubicon...

Also I want a hard top for the winter I can buy a soft top for summer.. ( finding a LJ Hard top is not cheap!)

So - Please help me!

Both are auto's

I know d/30/d44 combo front axle
Lockers
4.10 Gearing
4:1 transfer Case

I wheel - not crazy, I live in the northeast.. (now I also said 1 year ago with my first Jeep there is no way in hell I am every lifting a Jeep or getting bigger tires.. umm 33 and 3" now...)

The lockers - Don't know how much I need them - What conditions are they extremely helpful for? or not helpful for?
d30/d44 hybrid - Is the d30 weak in the front?
I do want to run my 33's - so I feel like the one real advantage is the 4.10's

I would prefer not having to redo gearing later... I like out of the box ability.. but I have wrenched ALOT on my TJ so I am not afraid either but peace of mind and ready to go is nice!

So 1.2.3 Go!

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Not sure quite what you are asking, but I will be running 33" tires with my D30/D44. I don't expect any problems.

I would have liked a LJ Rubicon, but I got picked up an 05 LJ with 42K on the clock that is spotless.

What color LJ are you looking for?

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Also fixed yoke on T-case on the Rubi. This means no need at add a SYE if you lift it 4 inches or more even though if you go that high, you still may want to invest in a CV style driveshaft.
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Old 03-26-2014, 01:19 PM   #4
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I would be Torn more to the Rubi. It is a better Base Vehicle to Build off of. And As far as Lockers go, It is better to have them and not need them than to need them and not have them. It would all come down to Money For me. But Same Shape, Mileage, Money, I would go to the Rubi
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Not sure quite what you are asking, but I will be running 33" tires with my D30/D44. I don't expect any problems. I would have liked a LJ Rubicon, but I got picked up an 05 LJ with 42K on the clock that is spotless. What color LJ are you looking for?
Well I am referring more to the gearing.. The d30/44 is fine for 33's I am just concerned about power and highway driving..

I like ones that are tan inside which are few and far between.. I love it with khaki exterior...

The dark blue is nice as well followed by red but I only saw those with a black interior...
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Old 03-26-2014, 04:17 PM   #6
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Welcome to the search....well good luck on your search. It's actually kind of fun, the look, the wife saying.."when are you going to get off that computer" or just to mix things up.."why don't you just pick one...already!!!" Give us some more info....or you trying to keep things close to the vest to protect your possible picks?
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Old 03-26-2014, 04:20 PM   #7
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The Rubis come with D44s all around also.
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Old 03-26-2014, 08:45 PM   #8
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The Rubis come with D44s all around also.
a d30/44 hybrid up front...?????


How are the 33's with 3.73 and an auto? Would 4.10 be better?

The Rubicon has 150,000 the non has 104,00 and that's a not a sticking point but I also need to think about the 500 miles in between vs the 65 total miles....

Is the 4.10 and lockers worth it? Will I use the lockers? I know I am reiterating but just thinking out loud!
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Old 03-26-2014, 10:24 PM   #9
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An Autocheck or a Carfax and the condition of the two would be my decision breaker. The distance really isn't a sticking point. Many of us, including myself went 3-4 states over to get the Jeep we wanted, some further. It's the condition of the two that comes into play....remember these are almost 10 years old. I was going to fly into Dulles for a Rubi an 04 and the wife is the one who picked the black one from the two pics I had......The black one really!!!!!!!! AAAAAArrrrrrrHHHHHHH, but it's a Rubiconnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn. I am so glad she did.....the black one was an LJ. A guy that is a jeep nut, builds them, fixes them, knows them...said to me. Go get the LJ....I tried to argue, but the Rubicon. He said if you buy the LJ we can match it up with parts to be a Rubicon, if you get the Rubi it's going to be very expensive to make it a LJ. Now I know you are looking at two LJ's, but the premise still works in your case, so again it comes down to their history. 105K sounds like it was driven easily, but the 150K may have been driven hard. Look at the paperwork, run the Vin's and see. It's worth it's weight in gold. Good luck.
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How are the 33's with 3.73 and an auto? Would 4.10 be better?

Is the 4.10 and lockers worth it? Will I use the lockers? I know I am reiterating but just thinking out loud!
I will be running 33x10.5x15 on my LJ with D30/D44 and 3.73 gears. I don't expect a lot of power loss or highway issues. Although I won't be driving it much on the highways. Worse case, I will throw some 4.10 gears in down the road and do air lockers at the same time.


Rubicons have the D44 Front and Rear. Usually 4.10 gearing and the 4:1 Transfer case. If it were me and givin' a choice between and LJ and and LJ Rubicon, I would take the Rubicon. Knowing that I will be doing some off-roading. If you never plan on off roading, save the $$$ and go the non-Rubicon.
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Well, we're all waiting with baited breaths.......what's the story on the LJ??? You bought it and now you are on top of Mt. Greylock.....am I close?
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Lol not yet...

I am going to look at it tomorrow - I sent you a P.M. back!
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Would someone run a car fax or vin check for me?
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Would someone run a car fax or vin check for me?
You got $75??? LOL!!!
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a d30/44 hybrid up front...?????


How are the 33's with 3.73 and an auto? Would 4.10 be better?

The Rubicon has 150,000 the non has 104,00 and that's a not a sticking point but I also need to think about the 500 miles in between vs the 65 total miles....

Is the 4.10 and lockers worth it? Will I use the lockers? I know I am reiterating but just thinking out loud!
3.73s and auto suck with 33s. Around town is fine, but pulling hills is the worst. There is no power there. I just had mine regeared to 4.88s with the auto. So much better.
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Old 03-29-2014, 05:06 AM   #16
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how much for each u mentioned the miles pics ? options ? both stock ? rust ?

u can build a rubi or better if needed
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Old 03-29-2014, 06:18 AM   #17
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It is personal preference......IMO MOST of us (that own Jeeps, not that wheel) don't NEED lockers...but yes nice to have them. I would be more concerned about the gearing and running 33"s. I had 3.73s and went to 33"s and I was "okay" on the street but highway and off road really showed the problem.
Regeared to 4.88"s and lovin it!!

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