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Old 02-04-2014, 10:38 AM   #1
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Upgrading stock headlights

So after having enough of the crappy stock headlights, I've decided to upgrade and go with brighter ones. I've never replaced headlights before and this is my first jeep. Anyone have recommendations for a decent headlight that won't break the bank and is DOT approved?

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Old 02-04-2014, 10:55 AM   #2
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I am in the market and thinking of getting the Hella Ecode. They are around 80 bucks for the kit on amazon. Just a suggestion for ya.

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Old 02-04-2014, 10:59 AM   #3
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Sylvania SilverStars are what are most recommended for a replacement sealed beam. I would recommend an H4 conversion, though (depending on budget).
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Old 02-04-2014, 11:02 AM   #4
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I just switched to the hella ecodes. Bought them off of amazon for around $80 shipped. Even with the bulb that came with them it is a huge improvement over the stock sealed beams. I don't hit quite so many opossums now
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Old 02-04-2014, 11:08 AM   #5
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Another vote for hella e codes 70/65watt. I upgraded to a standalone harness & relay setup too.
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Is this one one you're referring to;
HELLA 002395991 7" H4 Type Single High/Low Beam Headlamp

How do these compare with the TruckLites?
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Old 02-04-2014, 04:57 PM   #7
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Another vote for hella e codes 70/65watt. I upgraded to a standalone harness & relay setup too.
Do you have any pics of your set up?
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Old 02-04-2014, 06:28 PM   #8
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I built this harness myself using hella waterproof relays and plugs and then the. H4 female and male plugs. Each high/low circuit is run off its own fuse from the standalone fuse block off the battery. Anything else specific you want pictures of?

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I built this harness myself using hella waterproof relays and plugs and then the. H4 female and male plugs. Each high/low circuit is run off its own fuse from the standalone fuse block off the battery. Anything else specific you want pictures of?
thanks! And How do you like the brightness?
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Old 02-04-2014, 08:50 PM   #10
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I love it, it was one of the first upgrades I did when I got my jeep. I hated driving at night feeling like I relied on street lights more than anything. Now I rarely feel like I even would need high beams, enjoy the crisp line that you get from the housing and actually having a beam to be able to adjust. I wanted better headlights on somewhat of a budget. All the expensive led lights were outside oft hat budget. And I think the e-code housing and h4 bulbs are a great bang for your buck for the budget minded.
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Old 02-04-2014, 09:01 PM   #11
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FYI Hella E Codes are NOT DOT approved... Trucklites are LED, so by default brighter. Brighter isn't always better, you want a nice wide beam that goes forever. LEDs simply don't travel as far. I think they are best suited for spot lights on the trail, but that's personal opinion.

I'm getting the ecodes anyways. I've never heard about someone getting their headlights checked during an inspection for DOT approval.
I've seen the Ecodes anywhere $65-$90 shipped. Just gotta look and see who has what sale/discount.
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Old 02-05-2014, 06:25 AM   #12
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FYI Hella E Codes are NOT DOT approved... Trucklites are LED, so by default brighter. Brighter isn't always better, you want a nice wide beam that goes forever. LEDs simply don't travel as far. I think they are best suited for spot lights on the trail, but that's personal opinion. I'm getting the ecodes anyways. I've never heard about someone getting their headlights checked during an inspection for DOT approval. I've seen the Ecodes anywhere $65-$90 shipped. Just gotta look and see who has what sale/discount.
Found out last night I don't have to have my jeep inspected in the state if South Carolina lol
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i love my HID set up from DDM tumning. cant remember exact price but i know i didnt spend a huge amount on the set up
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Old 02-05-2014, 07:25 AM   #14
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What's your budget? I upgraded to H4 buckets from silver star sealed beams and saw little change. Then went to 80w/100w bulbs with upgraded harness and am very happy for less than $200. Build your own harness to keep it really cheap.
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Another vote for hella e codes 70/65watt. I upgraded to a standalone harness & relay setup too.
For the ecodes, do you need to do a harness and relay?
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For the ecodes, do you need to do a harness and relay?
if using more than a 55 watt bulb, yes.
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if using more than a 55 watt bulb, yes.
Thanks.

Would a 55 watt bulb in the ecodes still be a huge improve men over the factory headlights?
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Thanks. Would a 55 watt bulb in the ecodes still be a huge improve men over the factory headlights?
Yes.
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Trucklites were one of the first mods to my LJ. Very very good. Very bright white light with a good pattern. You don't have to upgrade wiring. Last forever. Only bad if you get snow. They don't get hot enough to melt snow off of them.

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I built this harness myself using hella waterproof relays and plugs and then the. H4 female and male plugs. Each high/low circuit is run off its own fuse from the standalone fuse block off the battery. Anything else specific you want pictures of?
Was it pretty simple to build your own harness?
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something to take in to consideration on the head lights mostly the LED versions.
If you live in a cold climate where you have snow and ice to deal with, They DO NOT put out enough heat to stay cleaned off.

I love the look of the LED lights but also have several folks i know that did this and have scrape their lights off while driving in snow or ice, they don't stay clear and reduce their effects.

so you have to have some kind of heat in the bulb.

Just a F.Y.I. type thing
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Was it pretty simple to build your own harness?
Yes I used diagram very similar to this and I believe 12ga wire. The ground I wired back through using the original headlight plug. Ordered most the stuff through amazon. If you have a good grasp on how relays work and can follow a diagram you'll be fine. If not there are a lot of premade harness out there you might be able to taylor to your needs.
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Silver Stars in the headlights, and Silvania ZXE in the fog lights, can't compare the two. Night and day, no pun intended.
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I picked up the Hella E codes for $54.00 ea (Canada) easy install although I had to make my own wiring harness, (didn't want to wait for one to ship) and they are great, a lot better optics, so much so that I had to adjust them down slightly as I was getting flashed when on low beam, and apart from the wiring they are a direct fit.
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Just put in a set of rampage conversions form 4wd catalog this last weekend and am thoroughly impressed with the difference in light from the stock sealed beams. I installed them in about 20 mins in my driveway. They run $82.00 with free shipping.
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Yes I used diagram very similar to this and I believe 12ga wire. The ground I wired back through using the original headlight plug. Ordered most the stuff through amazon. If you have a good grasp on how relays work and can follow a diagram you'll be fine. If not there are a lot of premade harness out there you might be able to taylor to your needs.
Thanks I'll check into it, and what bulb would you recommend?
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I am partial to my 70/65 Osram hyper bulbs. My theory on it was that if i was going to go through the trouble of a standalone wire harness I wanted to take advantage of the higher available amperage and lower resistance in the larger wire. So I wanted to upgrade to a higher wattage light to take advantage of larger gauge wire, but not go extreme where I'm blinding people. I think 80/100 is a bit much for daily driving but honestly the nice thing with the E-code housing is you can do a very good job of adjusting the beam to where it isn't to high and blinding people. Because the European type beam is very sharp and crisp. I consider my headlights to be substantially brighter than stock but through proper adjustment I haven't ever been flashed.

Putting any upgraded housings and higher watt bulbs on a stock harness I think is kinda a waist. People see a noticeable difference in just installing a standalone harness on oem lights. I have read so me testing done to prove the stock harness wire size is underrated as it is. People not seeing full 12 volt to the lights themselves due to small gauge OE harness and higher resistance.

Also if your going to go with higher wattage over stock I would get ceramic connectors at the bulbs to prevent overheating and melting of the connector.

And if you haven't come across it yet. Good source for the housings.

http://www.busdepot.com/0301600118

Edit. Disregard. Looks like amazon has a little better and already has a bulb.
http://www.amazon.com/HELLA-00239599...productDetails
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amazon has a little better and already has a bulb. http://www.amazon.com/HELLA-00239599...productDetails
That is by far the cheapest H4 upgrade I have seen yet. Good find!
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