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Old 03-26-2013, 03:24 PM   #1
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V6 versus strait 6

I was recently on vacation and rented 4 door wrangler, and really liked it. I am thinking o selling my explorer and getting one. I will keep my 97 TJ, we just hd all the rust repaired and it looks brand new. The question I have is ho goo is the newer engine? I love the strait 6 and am nervous about the Dodge v6 in the new ones, any opinion is appreciated. Thanks.

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I would ask in the JK section for the best responses. In this section we like to pick on minivan mill JK's. LOL

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Old 03-26-2013, 03:29 PM   #3
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It will be for my wife, I'm keeping te TJ
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Old 03-26-2013, 04:06 PM   #4
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How new was your 4 door? Pentastar v6 or prior?
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Old 03-26-2013, 04:21 PM   #5
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I traded my 06 TJ in for a 13 JK V6, both automatics. The TJ was more "snappy" but the JK has more power. Cruising at highway speeds like the V6 better and on the trails I like V6 better...IMO.
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Old 03-26-2013, 04:31 PM   #6
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The "original" I6 was from the mid 50's if I remember correctly and was in several Rambler car models.

Unfortunately we don't have 30-40 years of history to compare to the new v6 configuration...we do have the Dodge/ Chrysler mini vans to look at longevity.

I have a TJ and a JK.....I drive the TJ for my DD...and the JK when the wife says it needs gas......I do like the power train in the JK...part of the reason for getting the same thing in the '13 300 we just got back in Dec.....it is the "Parental unit hauler"
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The V6 is better at producing higher RPM HP for the highway, the I6 is better at producing more lower RPM torque which is what you want for offroading.
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The V6 is better at producing higher RPM HP for the highway, the I6 is better at producing more lower RPM torque which is what you want for offroading.
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Old 03-27-2013, 06:08 AM   #9
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I prefer my 4.0l if for nothing else simplicity. I have two buddies with JKs an 07 and 12. I have never driven them but I have looked under the hood. The JKs and their V6s have gotten a whole lot more complex.
I like to do my own maintenance and repairs. For a modern computer controlled (OBDII) platform the 4.0 is relativity easy and inexpensive to maintain, diagnose, and repair. Just my .02
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I just cracked 10K on my 13' JKU after over 160K on my '97 TJ. As Jerry mentioned, the 4.0 I6 has by far the best torque off idle, The 3.6 beats the 4.0 down the highway IMO.

I find it interesting that the Rubicon manual tranny models (at least the '13) can be started in 4wd low range with the clutch out... perhaps Jeep engineering realizing they needed to provide great torque once in a while when off road?
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jp2611..."I have a TJ and a JK.....I drive the TJ for my DD...and the JK when the wife says it needs gas".....


How common, Same situation here....
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I find it interesting that the Rubicon manual tranny models (at least the '13) can be started in 4wd low range with the clutch out... perhaps Jeep engineering realizing they needed to provide great torque once in a while when off road?
All TJ's can be started with the clutch out. All it takes is the removal of one fuse (most years) or switching an electrical connector.
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jp2611..."I have a TJ and a JK.....I drive the TJ for my DD...and the JK when the wife says it needs gas".....

How common, Same situation here....
I'm thinking that condition is not limited to only JKs. Every time I get into wifey's HHR I gotta put gas in it. Starting to see a pattern here hhmm.
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I'm thinking that condition is not limited to only JKs. Every time I get into wifey's HHR I gotta put gas in it. Starting to see a pattern here hhmm.
You guys are suckers! Every time MY wife needs gas, she takes the initiative to just grab the card out of my wallet so I can "stay home with my feet up"...wait a minute, maybe IM the sucker!! Lol no wonder "gas" seems to be way more expensive for her vehicle!
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All TJ's can be started with the clutch out. All it takes is the removal of one fuse (most years) or switching an electrical connector.
True but as you mention, not without a modification. In my '97, I had to short out the clutch safety switch. With the JK canbus arrangement, I doubt you could do that anymore.
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A colleague of mine actually picked a Dodge Journey (hey he picked it not me) with the Pentastar V6 as his corporate ride (choices are Liberty, Journey, 200C, Ford Escape, Ford Fusion, and 300C, Ford Taurus, Ford Edge for exec) and he's all starry eyed about it. He's shocked how "quick" it is, and it fits his needs so, oh well. He was hitting allpar every day to check for updates on when it came out, so needless to say he was excited for it.


Gotta give him some credit thought, he's a jeeper too, we built a pretty tastefully done comanche (2WD>4X4 conversion, 2000 front clip, lift, etc.) so he's considering a JK as well when his wifes car is paid off soon.


But I think Jerry hit it on the head as usual. I rented one as well and I was a fan; It's a great ride for a drop top 4X4.... but please get the 4X4... I still think I would favor a TJ in lieu of a JK, but I wasn't short of any smiles with the JK.
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In my '97, I had to short out the clutch safety switch.
You didn't have to short out the clutch safety switch. The '97 owners manual explains the correct process which is simply moving an electrical connector above the driver's side footwell.
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