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Old 06-05-2011, 06:18 PM   #1
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VIN Decals on Body Panels?

What do y'all do with the VIN decals on your rear fenders and tailgate when you put bed liner inside of your Jeeps? Do you mask them off or remove them? I'm about to coat the inside of my tub with an industrial paint and I don't really want to lose my decals due to resale.

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Old 06-05-2011, 06:25 PM   #2
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Paint over em. You have about 20 vin tags on your jeep. Those are just for the factory

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There are decals on the rear fender and tailgate? I had to go outside and check that I had those. The only one I pay attention to is the one one the driver side door sill and the dash, and normally people don't bedline that high. I'm betting the manufacturer tag on the door sill and VIN number on the dash(that is visible from outside the jeep) would be enough.
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I would cover them with masking tape, cut it out with a razor blade around the edges and pull it off right after you spray or roll the liner on. Don't let it dry and if possible, leave a tab on the tape that you can grab with needle nose pliers and pull it off.
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Thanks for the replies! Yeah I like to have them so that somebody knows that my TJ has the original body panels and was therefore not in a major accident. They're actually one thing I always look for when purchasing a preowned vehicle.

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Thanks for the replies! Yeah I like to have them so that somebody knows that my TJ has the original body panels and was therefore not in a major accident. They're actually one thing I always look for when purchasing a preowned vehicle.

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That's smart thinking. Also, if your Jeep is stolen and parted out, those VIN tags, if left on, could be the #1 lead to catching the criminals. Every little detail helps in cases like that.
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Okay, I just masked them off. As for the drivers side door sill plate, I unscrewed it, cleaned it up and sprayed a few coats of rustoleum white paint on it. I'll reaffix it once I'm done coating the inside with my epoxy coat.

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Again, those stickers are just for the factory to make sure the right pieces go together. Real van tags are steel and not easily removable. It would be simple to make a copy of those stickers. I could do it at work.
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Again, those stickers are just for the factory to make sure the right pieces go together. Real van tags are steel and not easily removable. It would be simple to make a copy of those stickers. I could do it at work.
What would you trust more: carfax or VIN stickers?

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What would you trust more: carfax or VIN stickers?

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Carfax is a big gimmick! It's just a bogus tool for used car lots to sell unsuspecting customers a car.
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What would you trust more: carfax or VIN stickers?

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Uhh? Like i said. Those stickers do have the vin. I could print them up. The vins I'm looking at are on the dash the engine the chassis and the permanently imprinted on the vehicles metal surface. Not a sticker on the inside of the tub that anyone with limited computer ability and a printer could make.
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What I'm getting at is that they are a good indication of a body panels originality. How many people do you think would actually take the time to print a tag in order to make a body panel appear to be original? Also, the VIN decals are not normal decals.... If you look at them they have a clear cover over them and little cut outs in the clear cover where the Vin number is. I would recognize a part number an Vin number printed on an Avery label. Im not arguing that the actual metal Vin tags override the decals but it is something good to look for on the individual panels before purchasing a vehicle. Also, the presence of a label does not mean you shouldn't look for other damage (one of my originals panels was actually repainted). This is common knowledge, not something that I've concocted myself.

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What I'm getting at is that they are a good indication of a body panels originality. How many people do you think would actually take the time to print a tag in order to make a body panel appear to be original? Also, the VIN decals are not normal decals.... If you look at them they have a clear cover over them and little cut outs in the clear cover where the Vin number is. I would recognize a part number an Vin number printed on an Avery label. Im not arguing that the actual metal Vin tags override the decals but it is something good to look for on the individual panels before purchasing a vehicle. Also, the presence of a label does not mean you shouldn't look for other damage (one of my originals panels was actually repainted). This is common knowledge, not something that I've concocted myself.

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Oh you dont think a high quality scam artist wouldn't print those tags up? If you constantly steal chrystler vehicles you could just use the same tag (same tags) You can tell if a panel Is original. No body shop can do it exactly the same. And I guarantee in about 1 1/2 I could make a sticker and put them side by side and you can't tell the difference.
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You don't mind making a few for me so that I don't have to bother painting around them do you? . The majority of replaced panels will not have a counterfeit vin sticker... I won't argue that they can't be faked but how many instances of this have you seen? I don't automatically assume a panel is original due to the decal but it is generally good start. This is probably all a moot point since my TJ is the first vehicle I've loved enough to not plan on selling it.

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This is probably all a moot point since my TJ is the first vehicle I've loved enough to not plan on selling it.
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I agree. Before I made the first cut into the body of my jeep I decided to keep it till the 4.0L dies. Which will be forever.... then swap in a diesel and run on fry oil.
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I agree. Before I made the first cut into the body of my jeep I decided to keep it till the 4.0L dies. Which will be forever.... then swap in a diesel and run on fry oil.
4bt3.9 would be so nice.....you should've heard my conversation with the wife about purchasing a frito-lay truck from auction so that I could get the engine. My comment that the empty truck would only be sitting around for a little while before I sell it for scrap was answered with a resounding "NO!!!".

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4bt3.9 would be so nice.....you should've heard my conversation with the wife about purchasing a frito-lay truck from auction so that I could get the engine. My comment that the empty truck would only be sitting around for a little while before I sell it for scrap was answered with a resounding "NO!!!".

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A 4bt was exactly what I was thinking. I could see that exact same scenario happening with me and my wife.

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