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Old 01-29-2013, 07:36 PM   #1
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Viper alarm installation questions

hello all,

I am very interested in getting the Viper 3303 alarm system and installing it myself. I have installed electronics in a car before (subwoofers, speakers, head unit, LED underbody kit) and looking at the alarm system looks pretty confusing. I am not trying to do anything fancy with it like unlock doors or have remote start (no power locks and I have a manual). I would like to install the alarm system and add a proximity sensor to warn when close to jeep and alarm when one enters. Also I would like to add a hood pin to alarm when the hood is raised.

Viper 3303:
Viper 3303 2-Way Responder LC Security System Car Alarm (3303V)
Proximity Sensor:
Directed 508D (dei-508d) Invisibeam Field Disturbance Sensor
Hood Pin:
Alarm Hood Trunk Door Pin Switch Viper Universal New | eBay

With this setup would I need any extra relays or anything? My research showed that jeeps need a lot of relays for alarm systems, but most of them were for remote starts that I saw. I also looked at the12volt.com and they did not have a wiring diagram for the 2001 TJ Sahara. Would it be safe to say its the same as the 2000?
I understand that you hook all the wires up where they belong. Such as to the horn, and side markers, and such you just have to find them. My biggest question would be how hard would this install be for someone with average to above average 12v electronic install experience? Also I want the two way 3303 to be notified when the alarm goes off. I like this feature so I can check on the Jeep if I am in the area because a lot of people do not respond to alarms going off.

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Not hard to install, just take your time. 2001 will be the same as a 2000.

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It's all about patience... mostly just time consuming.. the install is not all that hard. Not having remote start, windows, doors etc... to mess with will lighten the load a lot.

Just take your time and give yourself a few hours to complete.
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Like others have stated, just block off a day where you can take your time. With alot of options not used(power DL, remote start) should't take more than 2-3 hrs. The main wiring and install will be done under the driver's side. Siren can be placed on the firewall engine compartment with wires run through an existing opening/grommet. Interior sensor can be under the rear seat. This can give you an idea of the install:
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Old 01-30-2013, 07:36 AM   #5
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Thanks for the help guys. I might do a write up on this specific one when I do it.
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Old 01-30-2013, 08:14 AM   #6
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Try this link, it may help!

http://www.commandocaralarms.com/wiring/Jeep/


If you're going for basic install, you'll need the 12v constant, ground, horn or siren if included, and parking lights. Dont think you'll need domelight survision wire unless you keep doors on all the time, but that's the reason for the Invisibeam. My suggestion is to take all the wiring you wont need and bundle it together with a zip tie before installation. Makes it look alot less confusing too. Hope this helps!
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Old 01-30-2013, 09:22 AM   #7
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Thanks BigCrave! I feel pretty confident in finding those wires. I don't want to be messing with the ignition switch and everything. I had planned on bundling everything I wouldn't need up and leaving it by the brain of the unit. Living in Cleveland OH and Erie PA I will be leaving the doors on a majority of the time. Are you saying that I will need to include the dome light then into the alarm for it to still function?
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You don't have to incorporate the dome light into the alarm for it to function. That's an option so that when you disarm the system, the domelight will come on for a preset amount of time. That's so you can see into the vehicle before you get in. If you're going to leave the doors on most of the time, you definately want to wire in the the door trigger. If your doors are off, you may have to get some of those clips that hold the door switch in or else your viper will think the door is open and not arm. If you plan on using the starter disable function, you will have to wire into the ignition switch. You can usually access these under the dash where the wiring goes up to the steering column,so you don't have to wire in right at the switch. Alot of what is on that wiring list from Commando you wont need, but the basic stuff is there.
Good luck and let us know how it turns out.
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Would me having a chipped key pose any difficulties in wiring the starter disable function?
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The transponder 'chipped' key only affects remote start, not starter/ignition kill.
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agree with Wattapunk.
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Old 01-30-2013, 01:44 PM   #12
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Great, thanks!
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A couple tips from someone who installs alarms/starters every day.

1) Hide your brain and vital connections! I mounted my Viper brain directly behind the gauge cluster - there is pretty good room and you can screw it to a metal brace that runs right there. It's also time consuming for a thief to get at that area. Also be sure to hide the ground wire and it's contact point, the siren wire and the siren itself, and any fuses for the main power lead.

2) Bench-wire! Get your wiring diagram and find the wires you will need to interface with in the Jeep. Determine what wires need to run where, and plan your install out before doing anything else. Once you have it all planned, screw the alarm brain to a work bench and "prep" the brain and wiring. Cut and insulate any wires not needed for your install, and group wires that need to go to the same place together. For added security, many installers will wrap wiring with electrical tape to disguise the wire color to a potential thief.

3) Solder! Don't use those crappy T-taps or Scotchlocks, they are not permanent and often damage the factory wire. Find the wire you need, strip back the insulation without cutting the wire, poke a hole in the strands, and insert your new wire. Wrap the wire around both sides, solder and tape it up. If you decide for some reason to use T-taps, DO NOT USE THEM UNDER THE HOOD! Honestly, just don't use them.


TJ's are pretty straight forward as far as alarm wiring, just like everyone else said, take your time and plan it out, and you shouldn't have any major issues.
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Thanks Eboven, I planned to solder everything. Its good to know there is a good place to put the brian behind the dash instead of under it. Is it better to tap into existing power around where I will be installing the brain or run a new line from the battery?

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