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Old 02-23-2010, 11:13 PM   #1
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w00t w00t!

Just placed my order with 4wd.com that will lead to the completion of my Jeep's "Dechroming Project"...

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Pro Comp front bumper with d-rings - I know I know...Pro Comp sucks...but for my purposes, it'll suit my needs just fine. I just needed a decent looking black bumper.

Black outside door handles

Black mirror mover brackets - I hope the ones made by Warrior Products are decent!

Speaker adapter plates to put 5 1/4" speakers in my dash (stereo upgrades are a future project for the time being)

And because I spent way too much money, 4wd.com is also mailing me a $50 gift card.

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Old 02-23-2010, 11:19 PM   #2
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Cool man! I went completely stealth on my Jeep as well. The last thing I need is to either paint the chrom trim rings aound the headlights or buy the black ones.

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Old 02-23-2010, 11:21 PM   #3
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You may try VHT "night shades" on your tail lights and turn signals. It smokes them when they're not on, but still allows the light to pass through when you turn em on...it looks pretty cool on my all black TJ with a Viking fastback tinted top. It kinda adds that WWII blacked out lights look ya know?
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Nice! I think im going to paint my door handles with truck bed liner. idk yet. How much did you pay for the bumper? Have fun installing them, post up pics!
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Hey blacksport, Nice TJ
you consider tinting the tail lights and side markers?
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I used the VHT on the tails of my old truck... be careful with that stuff. It's really easy to get them way too dark. Since my Jeep is black and I'm blacking it all out...I'm thinking darkening the tails and tail lights would be overkill...seems like they would give it a lil contrast.
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I kept the "gambler" wheel on the back for the contrast.
I used 2 lite coats to make sure it didn't get too dark...plus i found a way to undo the tint if necessary that only takes about 20-30 min.
It turned out pretty cool

you have black rims?
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Nice! I think im going to paint my door handles with truck bed liner. idk yet. How much did you pay for the bumper? Have fun installing them, post up pics!
Bumper was $128ish before shipping...with a $10 surcharge on top of shipping. The other bumper I was looking at was the Smittybilt classic bumper...decided to go with the cheaper of the two.

Pics will definitely show up once I get a chance to install everything...I've got a black replace-a-top in the basement needing installed still too! Spring needs to hurry the fark up!

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you have black rims?
Not yet, but they're on the list...Cragar Soft 8's...and once I can afford a lift, 33x10.5-15 BFG A/Ts. If I need new tires before I can afford the lift, I'll stick with the 31x10.5-15 BFG A/Ts I have now...except next time around, they will go whitewall in. lol
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ha yeah, I have whitewall out now, but it's a bitch to keep clean.

You may wanna check into stock alloy wheels...they're stronger/last longer/lighter.
plus they can be painted however you want..and repainted or refinished to be pollished.

What type of wheels do you have on now?
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ha yeah, I have whitewall out now, but it's a bitch to keep clean.

You may wanna check into stock alloy wheels...they're stronger/last longer/lighter.
plus they can be painted however you want..and repainted or refinished to be pollished.

What type of wheels do you have on now?
Stock alloy?



If i decide to paint em...I need to get a new center cap for one of my wheels. Lost it in the snow this winter...unless I get really lucky and find it once the snow melts. lol
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The centre caps are universal for all the TJ's

Those look like the canyon alloy wheels (not 100% sure)

but the stock wheels ALWAYS have better weight rating and durability
Plus, when I was looking into custom wheels for my jeep, I found out that my stock alloy "gambler" wheels were worth way more than the expensive customs.

Yeah, that snow's a good thing to accidentally "hide" parts in for a while haha

but hey, at least it keeps them freshly frozen
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IDEA

It may be some good contrast to do those 5 arms of the wheels black and leave the deeper part of the rim pollished.

If you need idea's/help on painting em, I can help ya out...I did it for my friend's CJ-5
We painted them with Luminophoric paint...during the day, it absorbs sunlight and stores the energy so at night they glow (it's kinda ricey, but it stands out from any other jeep)
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Hahaha...that's pretty cool sounding actually...ricey or not. I'd prolly just paint mine solid black. They're pretty scuffed up from the previous owner's off-roading adventures. I need to pick up a set of new lugnuts too. A bunch of em don't match and that kind of stuff drives me up the wall...I'm very obsessive-compulsive when it comes to things looking good.
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yeah same here on the OCD part.

The scuffing can be fixed by using aluminum acetate wash to strip the clear coat, then you can pollish them to perfection (or prefference). Go to autozone and ask one of the guys about it...I'm sure they'd help you with the refinishing of the wheels if you want to fix the scuffs...it's cheap and easy...just like waxxing the truck
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Thanks for that info...I'll keep that in mind when spring rolls around and I start cleaning things up.

I just found that the same bumper I have on the front of my Jeep sells for $300 +shipping new! Holy crap! I may be able to sell that thing for more than I paid for my new bumper if it cleans up good...LOL
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If it's not painted, you may wanna paint it yourself...with a new paint job, it'll be worth a lot more...even though you just spend 10 bucks on painting it yourself...it may add 50-60 in it's overall value
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plus it'll be easier to sell
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Real jealous on the purchase. Those Pro Comp bumpers with the D-Rings actually look pretty sick to me, and I wouldn't mind if you put up some pictures once they're installed. I do know that drilling is going to be required for you, so if ya know... would do a How To write up that'd be terrific Have that on my desk by Monday morning.

And be careful with night-shade, you'll find some asshole cops who insist that your lights are too dark even after one spray.

Edit: After doing some reviews, the biggest two things I'm hearing are that you'll need to weld it yourself to reinforce the bumper and it should be powder coated before putting the bumper on.
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Cool man! I went completely stealth on my Jeep as well. The last thing I need is to either paint the chrom trim rings aound the headlights or buy the black ones.
paint them i did mine and they turned out just fine and saved me money because i already had the paint from my rims.
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here are a few pics of same rims with cheap paint that lasted all summers and this winter - touch up will be this spring
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Real jealous on the purchase. Those Pro Comp bumpers with the D-Rings actually look pretty sick to me, and I wouldn't mind if you put up some pictures once they're installed. I do know that drilling is going to be required for you, so if ya know... would do a How To write up that'd be terrific Have that on my desk by Monday morning.

And be careful with night-shade, you'll find some asshole cops who insist that your lights are too dark even after one spray.

Edit: After doing some reviews, the biggest two things I'm hearing are that you'll need to weld it yourself to reinforce the bumper and it should be powder coated before putting the bumper on.
According to the site, drilling on the Pro-Comp bumpers is only required for 97-00 Jeeps...if I gotta drill, I'll live...but I'm not gonna be a happy camper since drilling through my frame is not exactly the way I like to spend 2 hours on a Saturday afternoon. lol

What are you talking bout welding it to reinforce it and powder coating it before putting the bumper on? I'm sure as cheap as it is, it could prolly use some reinforcing braces inside of it to help withstand the impact of hitting something...but it's already been powdercoated black? Or did I miss where you're referring to something else...?
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here are a few pics of same rims with cheap paint that lasted all summers and this winter - touch up will be this spring
That looks really cool! Did you have to get your tires balanced afterward? I've heard some people say that after painting their wheels, they had a lot of vibes from the tires being out of balance.
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According to the site, drilling on the Pro-Comp bumpers is only required for 97-00 Jeeps...if I gotta drill, I'll live...but I'm not gonna be a happy camper since drilling through my frame is not exactly the way I like to spend 2 hours on a Saturday afternoon. lol

What are you talking bout welding it to reinforce it and powder coating it before putting the bumper on? I'm sure as cheap as it is, it could prolly use some reinforcing braces inside of it to help withstand the impact of hitting something...but it's already been powdercoated black? Or did I miss where you're referring to something else...?
I'm going off of the reviews from Here, but apparently the bumper isn't powerdercoated, just painted. I was thinking about purchasing this bumper, but I've got a '99. Though, I don't understand what changed into 2001 to not require the drilling?
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How many bolts are used to install the bumper? I have an XRC Smittybilt on my 03. Secured by 6 bolts. Two on top on each side and one under on both sides. The same spots as the original. Has two d-ring mounts and a built in winch mount. Any '00 and later have less bolts in original bumper?
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Looks like we're twins. After all your work & when I get my hot-rod flames on, we'll be "separated at birth."
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Thanks man... I wanna leave them clear it is a nice contrast. Hey sentenced I have some stock wheels off of my 05 for sale. They were in perfect condition but I had them stacked up and two fell off top. I dont see why they still wouldnt be good. Just the lip is a little bent, but the roundness of the rim looks fine. If you want I can post up pics.
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Thanks man... I wanna leave them clear it is a nice contrast. Hey sentenced I have some stock wheels off of my 05 for sale. They were in perfect condition but I had them stacked up and two fell off top. I dont see why they still wouldnt be good. Just the lip is a little bent, but the roundness of the rim looks fine. If you want I can post up pics.
Thanks but I'll have to pass on those...it'll be a while before I pick up a set of wheels. I'm pretty broke until after my camping trip in late April.
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That looks really cool! Did you have to get your tires balanced afterward? I've heard some people say that after painting their wheels, they had a lot of vibes from the tires being out of balance.

nope runs just fine did'nt notice any difference (i use cheap walmart $1 a can paint - 2 coats flat black and 2-3 coats hi gloss black on each rim) $4 bucks invested
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Received my bumper...quality wise, looks great for the money. Only one thing that concerns me and we'll see once I go to install it what's going to need to be done.

It only 2 holes in the top for mounting the bumper (has 4 technically but those are for the CJ mounts), whereas my current bumper has 4 mounting bolts. It may mount just fine without the other two, but if the two holes mount on the rear holes of my frame, I'm not gonna be able to utilize my factory tow hooks with the new bumper (or I may need to drill the bumper to get access to those 2 holes). We shall see...

If I get a chance to install it this evening, pics will follow tonight!

I also wish I had done more reading on the mirror movers before I bought them...sounds like I kinda wasted my money. I figured the point of moving them was so you could still USE your mirrors both with the doors on and off. Apparently, they're so you legally have mirrors but the passenger side isn't really usable. Kinda dumb and unsafe if you ask me (well, with the doors on...much easier to just look back with them off).

I may list those on Ebay and get some of my cash back and then just buy a set of mirrors that mount inside the upper door hinge.
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Got the bumper installed... the factory torx bolts were SHOT. The threads on them that were exposed to the elements were non-existent...looked like somebody dipped that portion in acid. So I replaced them with some stainless steel bolts. Bumper installed just fine...and even though I probably should have made some kind of spacers to go under the tow hooks where they hang off the bumper, they'll be fine for now. I'll deal with spacers when I install a winch plate/winch.

Came home from work and as I turned on my road, I wondered if my package arrived with the rest of my parts (multiple package shipment, only received 1 of 2 today). I did. And I was left with another surprise. The UPS truck had slid off the edge of our driveway into the ditch and was nearly tipped over. The driver got out and was like, "Sorry...I got stuck and a tow truck is on the way. I laughed and said it's cool...but I wasn't going anywhere since the driveway I needed into was being occupied by him. The snow drifts are over 2 ft high...and the normal "shortcut" I take into the driveway not only had the 2 ft high drifts blocking it, but also the piles of snow from where I plowed the drive during the last 2 snow storms. lol

I managed to squeeze my Jeep around him and into the driveway...and 2 1/2 hrs and 2 wreckers later, he got out. Poor guy...

Anyway, here's a comparison...

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Oh yeah...only drilling required on my 02 was a couple holes to mount my stupid front license plate.

Edit: Grrr....tow hooks are switched around...will fix that later.

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