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Wanting to trade an automatic tranny for a manual!

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#1 ·
I have a 2005 Wrangler 4.0 automatic with 63000 miles and i want to trade for a manual. I'm willing to drive up to 500 miles in any direction from where i'm located and want to trade next month. But it was to be a complete trade computers tranmission pedal everything needed for each. I live in jacksonville NC so if Anyone is willing to trade please let me know and we can make it happen in august. Thanks
 
#2 ·
Why? Most here want to go the other way, manual to an automatic because autos do so much better on the really tough trails. I converted my previous TJ from a 5-speed to an automatic which together with its f/r lockers, 4.88 gearing, and 35" tire turned it into an absolute beast offroad.
 
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Why? Most here want to go the other way, manual to an automatic because autos do so much better on the really tough trails. I converted my previous TJ from a 5-speed to an automatic which together with its f/r lockers, 4.88 gearing, and 35" tire turned it into an absolute beast offroad.
Why do autos do better on tough trails? What kind of trails? I've had both, but I like autos better for sand and mud, and manuals better for hills and rocks.
 
#4 ·
I have a 2005 Wrangler 4.0 automatic with 63000 miles and i want to trade for a manual. I'm willing to drive up to 500 miles in any direction from where i'm located and want to trade next month. But it was to be a complete trade computers tranmission pedal everything needed for each. I live in jacksonville NC so if Anyone is willing to trade please let me know and we can make it happen in august. Thanks
I understand your frustration with the 42RLE. But unforunately its an electrical nightmare to convert to a manual from the 42RLE since its 100% computer controlled.
 
#5 ·
I'll tell you one thing. You'll NEVER hear from me asking to buy your automatic. I'm waiting on my Scout to be done with its manual 4WD conversion (auto>manual), and I had been looking around for hard-to-find manual CR-Vs. If anything happens to either vehicle, I sure enough want a manual 4WD Jeep.
 
#10 ·
One of the guy's I wheel with uses this in the rocks, it works really well for him using a 5 speed. Rubicon Express Hand Throttle - Trail Gear & Tools I rode with him on one section of trail and liked how it worked. I just let my Jeep idle and put it in what ever gear I think I'll need depending on what I'm wheeling on, then I just use my feet for the brake and the clutch, I might purchase a hand throttle though eventually.
 
#11 ·
That's true, but it's not what I do. I cannot bear to tear up something so classic like a Jeep or a Scout... Even though you could treat it so carefully and articulate slowly. That's just too much money gone too fast for me. What about the original purpose of the Jeep? Using a manual through difficult terrain under enemy fire... Where's the challenge otherwise?

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#18 ·
I can get behind the Auto's are easier statement, but I believe that manuals are more controllable in some situations.. I think both have their advantages, so I guess it would depend on what you would rather have and for what reasons as to weather it would be worth the effort of doing a complete swap or not.
 
#19 ·
1st gear in an auto is way faster than 1st gear in a manual when you let the vehicle go down hill at the speed it wants to. It's not really that bad if you're in low range, but in an auto you'll find yourself hitting the brakes a lot to slow down, and if you're on a very steep descent that's borderline on endoing your Jeep you want to be really careful hitting the brakes.
 
#22 ·
I just did my jeep. Auto to manual. I dont regret it only that the guy pu me a xj ax15 which is makes the front driveshaft to low and rear too high and the tc is touching the skid plate. I wil get a swap in soon. For offroaders with tough terrain and rockcrawling stay with the auto but for me its a dd and weeken warrior on sand soo i didnt think twoce.
 
#23 ·
auto is better offroad because you can more easily feather the brake to transfer torque from the spinning wheel to the wheel that has traction. With a clutch involved, your left foot will be operating that pedal, leaving the brake and the gas to your right foot.

Either way, I would never drive an automatic jeep.
 
#25 ·
auto is better offroad because you can more easily feather the brake to transfer torque from the spinning wheel to the wheel that has traction. With a clutch involved, your left foot will be operating that pedal, leaving the brake and the gas to your right foot.

Either way, I would never drive an automatic jeep.
Buy some lockers.
 
#28 ·
Black Magic Brakes said:
Didn't I already tell you that the back of the XJ transmissions is clocked lower than the TJ transmissions and all you have to do is redrill the bolt pattern?
Yes you did and thank you. But i also have a prob inside the trans where the reverse is very hard to go in an it grinds cpnstantly. Plus 1st pop out alot causing a huge pop thats scares the crap out of me . Also to top it off the trans mout bolts where there is 4 bolts one of the holes is completely stripped. Iam though thinking about the redril but i have to find someone that does a good job here soo i can trust him but thats nearly imppssible. No one would wana work on it.
 
#37 ·
For those who badmouth auto transmissions because they make wheeling "easier" (your words not mine)... then it's time for you to get rid of your lockers, big tires, 4x4 transfer cases, suspension lifts, Atlas II transfer cases, quick disconnects, etc.. All of them do nothing but make it easier to make it from one end of the trail to the other with fewer issues.
 
#38 ·
AmericaOverland said:
I guess I better hurry up and rent a 10X10 room to store as many T-19s and D-20s as I can afford for the Scout, and then when I get a Jeep, do the same thing. I cannot have manuals disappear forever on me because people don't want manuals. That's already happened with everything else out there, just like power locks and windows. It looks like the JKs are the ONLY light vehicles sold in the US without power locks and windows. Thanks guys...

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You just mad cuz I be stylin on you. jk

If I want to shift gears. Which is awesome. I love shifting a manual. I'll do it on my R6 A 6speed transmission stretched over 186 mph and an 20000 rpm tach. I STILL want a manual jeep. But auto is more efficient off road. When I have kids and need a bigger vehicle. I'll buy a manual JKU.
 
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AmericaOverland said:
I guess I better hurry up and rent a 10X10 room to store as many T-19s and D-20s as I can afford for the Scout, and then when I get a Jeep, do the same thing. I cannot have manuals disappear forever on me because people don't want manuals. That's already happened with everything else out there, just like power locks and windows. It looks like the JKs are the ONLY light vehicles sold in the US without power locks and windows. Thanks guys...

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The JK's also have power door locks and windows.
 
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