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Old 08-27-2013, 09:21 AM   #1
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Warn Bumpers

Can anyone weigh in on the durability, quality of Warn's Rockcrawler front and rear bumpers? I read one review by a guy that said the bumper was of poor quality and rusted. I like the looks, am looking to change out my stock bumpers on my stock TJ and add a winch. Not sure yet if I need to change out my springs, add spacers, or new shocks so the ride stays level. No lift planned. Are there other aftermarket bumpers that might be better or that I should at least look at? Thanks everyone.

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Can anyone weigh in on the durability, quality of Warn's Rockcrawler front and rear bumpers? I read one review by a guy that said the bumper was of poor quality and rusted. I like the looks, am looking to change out my stock bumpers on my stock TJ and add a winch. Not sure yet if I need to change out my springs, add spacers, or new shocks so the ride stays level. No lift planned. Are there other aftermarket bumpers that might be better or that I should at least look at? Thanks everyone.
Like everything else Warn.......its overpriced and underbuilt.

Check out Metal Cloaks modular bumper system. MC is one of the top bumper/fender mfgs for Jeeps. www.metalcloak.com

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Thanks, but I sense a bit of bias vs warn products?! Maybe the don't sell many bumpers since no one else has weighed in. I just don't want to spend my hard-earned $ on a crap product, no matter who makes it. Thought others might have tried aftermarket bumpers and might offer an opinion. Thanks for yours.
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Thanks, but I sense a bit of bias vs warn products?! Maybe the don't sell many bumpers since no one else has weighed in. I just don't want to spend my hard-earned $ on a crap product, no matter who makes it. Thought others might have tried aftermarket bumpers and might offer an opinion. Thanks for yours.
MC makes a damn good product, your money wouldn't be wasted there.
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This is a warn I got it used and I love it does the job and dosent add unneeded weight of a over built bumper. I dont make a habit of driving into things.
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Not me but my brother has Rockcrawler on his Wrangler and it looks really heavy-duty. But I noticed that the coating of his bumper is starting to flake off. As far as I know he bought it 5 years ago. I personally like Smittybilt - Smittybilt Jeep Bumpers especially the XRC series. I'm sure they offer good quality and the best part is that they are more inexpensive than Warn.
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Thanks, but I sense a bit of bias vs warn products?! Maybe the don't sell many bumpers since no one else has weighed in. I just don't want to spend my hard-earned $ on a crap product, no matter who makes it. Thought others might have tried aftermarket bumpers and might offer an opinion. Thanks for yours.
No bias, just straight to the point. I wouldn't waste money on a WARN product today(minus a few select winches they make).
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Old 08-28-2013, 07:39 AM   #8
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I've had a pair of Warn Rockcrawler bumpers on my TJ for 9 years now ( along with their winch plate and front nerf bar ) they have a few dings and gouges in them from rocks and a Toyota that backed out in front of me ( Toyota $2000 damage, I had to reset my toe and buy a can of flat black for my front Warn bumper ) they've held up well to my abuse.
No regrets for spending a lil more for a quality product.
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Warn is an old Company . They didn't get that way and still do a good business by selling junk.
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My warn front bumper is still in great shape after 3 years of use and no signs of rust, but on the other hand my rear XRC smittybilt is flaking off more and more of the powdercoating everyday and will need to be sanded and repainted soon.
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Thanks, but I sense a bit of bias vs warn products?!
X2, he is well known for that.

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No bias...
Bull, you never fail to make negative comments whenever Warn is brought up, even in bumper threads with this being a good example. Go right ahead and continue supporting all those Chinese products you love to push at every opportunity... just what we need.
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Haha ! Nice one
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Paint is paint and powdercoat is powdercoat. I used to paint things like this in a factory on a line. Powder coat is hard. Harder to scratch but hit it hard enough and a small chip comes off where as you will put a smaller nick in more flexible paint. Steel rusts when exposed to elements. I recommend buying what you like and keeping an emery board and a little bottle of black touch up paint. When ever you wash her sand down nicks with your Emory board and touch them up with the paint. It is easy to use over a small surface and will keep your bumper looking great and lasting forever.
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Buy American whenever possible ! I get great information most of the time from WF but, get tired of hearing "This is the Best ! It's what I Run ". That just tells me you either work for them or have an Ego issue. If a product is truly the best and is backed by proven research, I'm all in on it. Just my opinion.
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I'm running warn front and rear w/ tire swing. got the rear used in Craigslist $450, no rust, bought the front new from the warn factory outlet (online) for ~$230 delivered. Both seem well built, heavy gauge and durable. I'm pretty happy with'm.
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I love my SRC Smittybilt bumpers. Rear is tow rated and towed a small trailer from Alaska to Missouri. Up front I have a tow bar that attaches to the front bumper that was made to hook in the d ring mounts by Smittybilt. A cool feature not found elsewhere and I use it a couple times a month. Weight is high. That's my bumper experience. Personally. I love the way they look. Any solid chunk of steel is going to last well and look good if you maintain it. I like to buy American. I hit up farmers markets often. If I liked the looks and features of a Warn I would buy it and willingly pay more because it is American, not for me though. I think rusting is owner negligence. You should buy what you like! Buy what looks good to YOU. All of them minus Stainless steel and Chrome plated tube bumpers are made out of Steel with a coating. No coating is bullet proof. One example here is the guys smittybilt rear bumper rusting faster than his warn front bumper. I drive forward most the time! My rear bumper gets way more rock chips than the front lol. I touch them up and have no rust. Some guys park there jeep all winter because they are scared of rust. I don't. I maintain it. Better than having mice eat your stuff. to each is own man.
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Hey everyone. Thanks for your take on the bumpers. Appreciate the advice. Nothing wrong with liking what you bought if it does the job for you. I agree that owner maintenance (or lack of) has a lot to do with whether a person ends up liking a product on the long run. Final question: does anyone know the approximate weight of a stock TJ bumper (99 model)? Again, thanks for the great input.
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I'd say just over 20 pounds. They are light.
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X2, he is well known for that.

Bull, you never fail to make negative comments whenever Warn is brought up, even in bumper threads with this being a good example. Go right ahead and continue supporting all those Chinese products you love to push at every opportunity... just what we need.
Warn is not the same company that it was 15 or so years ago. Its not a family owned business anymore. Its run and OWNED by the DOVOR CORPORATION which is a publicly traded entity(ie: shareholders.........people who try to get fat and rich off of other's work by "investing"..........a way which frankly is killing off our economy and middleclass.....which YOU are a part of Jerryboy).

Which is why WARN is so heavily overpriced compared to other products on the market. Your not just paying for product itself. Your paying for heavy advertising(greater than any other comparable company competing in the industry), your paying the salaries and bonuses of a board of directors and shareholders, more so than you are paying the salaries of those who actually make or assemble, package and ship the products. WARN also sources out MOST raw materials and components from Mexico, China etc. So why buy a product from them, when another company offers it for less than half price that performs just as well or better.

But this leads to more hypocrisy from you Jerry. Your full of hypocrisy at every turn literally. You are all gung ho, puff puff about supporting a "USA" company like WARN. Yet in other threads I see you bashing US companies as well. Like Quadratec for example. Quadratec employs HUNDREDS of US workers, is a reseller of thousands of companies both large(like your precious WARN)and small(Like ORO)many of which are US based companies. So they support countless thousands of US workers by buying their brand products, and then reselling them to the public both online and through brick and mortar stores. They are an A+ BBB accredited store with fantastic CS and support.

Oh but that's right, you would rather support the little guy vs. a company like quadratec right? Yet what is WARN? Hypocrisy spills out of your mouth all the time Jerry.


Like I said, I like a few specific WARN products. But beyond that, better companies for bumpers IMO. Warn's swing out tire carrier is poor(they are know to sag and use cheap bushings)and the finish on WARN bumpers has always been suspect(All paint and powder coating is not the same).

Jerry, whats your take on Metal Cloak btw? And their bumpers? THis is a company that specializes in fenders and bumpers(both in lightweight ALUMINUM and traditional steel) for Jeeps I think right? I never really see you say anything about them at all. I THINK they are based in the USA(And employ a few US based citizens too beyond the owner/and or manager) and I think they use all their raw materials from the US too. But maybe you can tell me just to be sure. Seeing how conscious you are about keeping everything homebound right here on our home land. I wouldn't want to promote or push any "Chinese" brands now would I?
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I am VERY happy with mine. I bang it up good when we crawl, I has survived an accident, is very solid compared to other bumpers I have seen. It had pre drilled holes for aftermarket lights. The factory coating has held up ok, good as I expected. After the accident a good bit rubbed off and required repainting. Ive had it for two years now for what its worth
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[QUOTE=NJOthe (All paint and powder coating is not the same)

You are correct, there are different brands etc. Some may be slightly more durable than others. Point being none of them are not going to get chipped. You may even get variances based on how the product was stored, from lot to lot, etc. More importantly prep work. Believe it or not we gave our parts a hot bath full of salts prior to being heated in an oven then painted or powder coated then baked in the oven again. You would think it promotes rust but it promoted adhesion, now I imagine if a chip happened that process may make rust happen faster if left unattended and exposed to oxygen. I was trying to point out that no matter what you buy they will look as good as you maintain them.
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i had a crown rear bumper (disliked it so much i let the guy who bought my tub and frame have it) ... some have said its a Chinese knock off, and some have said its made by the same company that makes them for warn, the bumper itself is strong, but the hitch was not square, and took some grinding to get a draw bar to fit in it, and the swingout tire rack never quite swung properly.....maybe someone could clarify if they are the same
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I love my rockhard 4x4 front bumper ... its very stout, it has hit trees and winched an f350 out.. also has provisions for mounting a proprietary steering box skid ($40)

and its made in the usa
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I can speak from experience warn REAR bumpers are junk ... the bumper itself is fine, but the swingout has play n it and isn't very well put together... smitty bilt is also junk.
My Warn swing out tire carriers been there for 9 years and hasn't worn out or developed "Play" do you use the zerk fitting to grease the bushing on a regular basis? You also have to adjust the tire stand off to the size tire/rim backspacing did you neglect to do that also?
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This is a warn I got it used and I love it does the job and dosent add unneeded weight of a over built bumper. I dont make a habit of driving into things.

that's not a warn bumper, just a brush guard with provisions for mounting a winch.... not what the op was referring to
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My Warn swing out tire carriers been there for 9 years and hasn't worn out or developed "Play" do you use the zerk fitting to grease the bushing on a regular basis? You also have to adjust the tire stand off to the size tire/rim backspacing did you neglect to do that also?

reread my post .... not even sure that it is the same as a warn... and i actually had to tap mine in order to intall a zerk ... it didn't "develop play" it always had play .... im assuming now that the crowns are not the same and they are nothing more than a knockoff
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that's not a warn bumper, just a brush guard with provisions for mounting a winch.... not what the op was referring to
Just giving my experiance with warn. As he talks about paint issues with them. And my paint is fine.
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(All paint and powder coating is not the same)
You are correct, there are different brands etc. Some may be slightly more durable than others. Point being none of them are not going to get chipped. You may even get variances based on how the product was stored, from lot to lot, etc. More importantly prep work. Believe it or not we gave our parts a hot bath full of salts prior to being heated in an oven then painted or powder coated then baked in the oven again. You would think it promotes rust but it promoted adhesion, now I imagine if a chip happened that process may make rust happen faster if left unattended and exposed to oxygen. I was trying to point out that no matter what you buy they will look as good as you maintain them.
Slightly is an understatement. I have seen a lot of painted and powder coated products not make it through a full year without chipping or lifting away due to poor prep and inferior chemicals used. Good prep and chemicals cost money. Some companies paint/coat process is far and away better than others. The "Made in China" Warn bumpers that I have seen don't last as long as some of the smaller companies products. And honestly it has nothing to do with where its made, but HOW its made.
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reread my post .... not even sure that it is the same as a warn... and i actually had to tap mine in order to intall a zerk ... it didn't "develop play" it always had play .... im assuming now that the crowns are not the same and they are nothing more than a knockoff
Look back at post #24 I quoted your original post in it. You've since changed your post.

Glad to hear you apparently DID'NT have problems with a Warn product.
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I like my Warn bumper that came with the Jeep when I purchased it last fall. I'm not sure when it was installed or how old it is. It did rust a little over the winter (surface rust) but I sanded it and bedlined it this Spring and it looks great. Seems pretty heavy duty but I try not to test that.

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