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Old 07-16-2008, 09:30 AM   #1
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Warn winch with Optima red top?

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New to the forum, and in the process of building up a 2000 Wrangler Sport. I just bought a Warn winch (8000), and will be picking it up later today, the question I have involves the battery. I bought an Optima Red Top battery to power my rig with the winch, but I am hearing that the Optima batteries do not hold a charge very long. this rig is only my toy, and a freind said that his optima battery dies after only three days sitting in the garage. Just want your opinions before I pick the battery up. Is there something better?

thanks in advance for your responses.

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i have a red top optima battery and never had any problems with it, i have had my jeep sitting for over a month before and it fired right up, i have also had just the ingniton turned over listening to the music for at least an hour on multiple occasions and it still fired up, i have never heard ny negatives on the optima

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Old 07-16-2008, 10:27 AM   #3
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If your friend's Optima battery dies after 3 days, he has something on his Jeep that is causing an abnormal drain on it. I no longer drive my TJ on a daily basis and it has sat a month or more at a time yet it starts up right away each time. Optima batteries are very high quality and hold a charge as long as any battery out there so your friend has other problems that aren't battery related.

But if you don't already own the Red Top, you should buy the Blue Top or Yellow Top instead. The Red Top is not the best choice for winching duties while the Blue and Yellow Tops are. In fact, Optima will void the warranty of a Red Top if the dealer finds a winch connected to it. The Blue and Yellow Top batteries are a combination starting and deep cycle (not a pure deep cycle though which would be a bad choice) battery which is ideal for a Jeep that has a winch. The Blue and Yellow Tops are identical internally, they only vary by their external posts and connectors with the Blue Top having more convenient wing nut connectors on top that work well for a winch. Don't ever connect a winch to an Optima battery's side post connections as they cannot handle the >400 amps a winch can draw, use only its top posts.

Two other very good choices for a winch-equipped Jeep would be an Odyssey or the new Sears Diehard Platinum battery which is made for Sears by Odyssey. With the solid reports on both, I'll probably go with the Diehard Platinum when my present Optima Blue Top finally gives up the ghost. I haven't had any problems with either of my two Optima batteries but with Sears being everwhere, it'd be nice to know I can have any warranty issues taken care of nearly anywhere.
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Old 07-16-2008, 10:37 AM   #4
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An optima battery will not die after just a few days unless he has something running it down.The optima battery will out perform the stock batt or most any other name brand batt in just about every test you could put it to.I do not even own one anymore because I was to cheap to get another one after letting my first two go with sold vehicles.Anyway yes I have owned the optima on two different occasions and by far were the best batts I have seen but then again they are a little more costly.I run a 1000 cranking amp yellow top Duralast in my Jeep right now.But if it ever goes bad I would not hesitate a bit to go back with an Optima batt.
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I'm usuing a Duralast deep cycle, starting batt from W/M; $80. I like it.
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YOur friend has something draining the battery such as a light or a small short or something. If he has a wrangler, tell him to check his underhood light.
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I LOVE my optima it worked great with my winch, until i burnt up the motor, i'd recommend this battery to anyone
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I have used Odessey batteries with great success. Also look into the Wrangler NW dual battery set up. If you accidentally drain your starter battery, a flip of a switch gives you back up and if you do a ot of winching, you can winch with one battery with no fear of draining your starter, or switch to both batteries for more winching power.
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YOur friend has something draining the battery such as a light or a small short or something. If he has a wrangler, tell him to check his underhood light.
This just made me think of when we were kids trying to climb in the refrigerator to see if the light stays on or peeking threw the crack to see if it is going off or not.
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This just made me think of when we were kids trying to climb in the refrigerator to see if the light stays on or peeking threw the crack to see if it is going off or not.



i currently have a duralast yellow top and its holding well. My headlights are not dimming at all even when i have the bass turned up LOUD (not that i listen to it loud often). With the stock battery my lights dimmed like crazy.
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The Red Top is a starter battery. It is designed for short discharge and fast recovery (charging). It is not meant to be deeply discharged. Multiple deep discharges will harm the battery and greatly reduce it's life.

The Yellow Top and Blue Marine is a deep discharge battery. It can be drained and will fully recover. It should be used with heavy drains (audio, accessories, lights etc). It can be used as a starter but has lower CCAs and a shorter warranty.

I learned this a number of years ago from Optima when I killed two in my Mustang. It had underdrive pullies and did not chatge at idle and barely with AC/wipers/lights. The first one lasted 18 months and replaced under warranty. The next one lasted 6 months.
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thanks for the advice guys. My local off road Jeep mechanic advised me to get the red top due to the winters we have in Northern Ohio. He said that I will need the extra cranking amps in the cold, and that the battery will be ok for occassional winch use. If not, I can always attempt to return it for the yellow top. thanks again.
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If your friend's Optima battery dies after 3 days, he has something on his Jeep that is causing an abnormal drain on it.
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An optima battery will not die after just a few days unless he has something running it down.
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YOur friend has something draining the battery such as a light or a small short or something.


i hear an echo.


the red top is not designed to work with a winch but I hear everyone is doing it. lol.

I decided to spend a little more and bought an Excide blue top marine deep cycle battery. Works great and I use my winch every weekend just about and on big steep ledges where the winch is pulling the full weight of the jeep up and over.
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the trick there ygohome, is not to use your winch unless you have too...let you jeep carry its own arse!!! lol jk
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i hear an echo.
if i dont say something and just go with the solution people are like wtf are you talking about.. i mention his friend, you hear an echo
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the trick there ygohome, is not to use your winch unless you have too...let you jeep carry its own arse!!! lol jk
ouch! lol. maybe I should begin running the bunny trails
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if i dont say something and just go with the solution people are like wtf are you talking about.. i mention his friend, you hear an echo
I was implying that you three came to the same conclusion is all. and I agree. but now I am wtf because I really don't understand your last post.
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but now I am wtf because I really don't understand your last post.
lol 2 months ago, some one posted an issue, 2 guys posted in front of me what the problem might be however never posted how to fix it or what to look.. so i posted and i think it was Scout, he was like wtf are you talking about since all i did was post the solution. So now i posted the problem and the solution or at least a place where to start looking so no one is in the dark. I though when you said an echo, you ment like i read it and copy it.

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