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Old 01-02-2013, 07:45 PM   #31
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thats a nice stick welder, but I think you'd prefer a wire welder, you want a MIG(metal inert gas) or GMAW these two are synonyms of each other, that is a stick welder or SMAW . its a little trickier to be good at stick welding especially for pipes and overhead welds than it is with wire.

But it does have plenty of power and is not a bad choice for what he wants to do. I was going to suggest picking up a CL arc welder, since they can be had for 200 bucks or less around here. However he mentioned and everyone pushed for a MIG, which is nice, and if he has the funds, the best choice.

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But it does have plenty of power and is not a bad choice for what he wants to do. I was going to suggest picking up a CL arc welder, since they can be had for 200 bucks or less around here. However he mentioned and everyone pushed for a MIG, which is nice, and if he has the funds, the best choice.
I didn't have the $$$ for a MIG welder when I bought mine... I just made it work by not eating for a month.

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Haha Yea, I think ill stick with MIG then =P I just want to weld bumpers and tire carriers and rockers, maybe a few roof racks and that kind of stuff. Get good at it and hopefully sell some of my stuff.
Now that that's settled, how are ya gonna cut your metal to size?
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you may want consider an AC/DC stick welder, very reasonable in price for used one on craigslist. but if a mig welder is what you want there are some very good used ones as well 220V nothing smaller than that. you will need a gas bottle such as CO2 or 75/25 mix Argon/CO2. If you use flux core wire you don't need gas, however you would need to clean slag off after welding. FYI flux core wire has more tensile strength than gas shielded wire weld. Flux is not as pretty but you will get deeper penetration with flux wire. Pretty important when doing heavy duty bumpers. I myself have a Lincoln 250 multi-process with LN-7 wire feeder, but I am still partial to stick welding, I learned that first. If you items such as tools or power equipment or something of same value that you can part with try bartering/trading for a good welder on craigslist. I have done this myself to get my welder of desire.
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I didn't have the $$$ for a MIG welder when I bought mine... I just made it work by not eating for a month.
That always does the trick. I should give that a try!
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I agree with the guys on here that a 220v welder is going to offer much better overall range of options relative to metal thickness, but I don't have a 220v circuit in my house, so I went with a 110v welder. If you are patient and preheat the metal, it will handle just about anything I throw at it.

A word of caution - Don't buy a welder based on the price. If you look for a budget welder, you will likely find yourself disappointed. I went down this road and purchased a MIG that was around $300. It now sits at a friends house. Lots of plastic pieces that wore down pretty quick with regular use... and how do you learn? using it...

My welder is a Lincoln 140c 110v MIG welder. I picked it up for about $725, tax included. It is the best money I have spent on a tool in a long time. Another word of advice - buy a high dollar, good quality hood. There are helmets all over the place for $30-50 that will shield your eyes well enough, but the sure dont have the clarity and quality of vision that a good hood has.

Spend good money the first time and you will have no regrets. By the way - the Lincoln 180c is the 220v version. I imagine with one of those, there would be almost nothing you could not do.

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Dont buy a friggin flux core type mig welder, your welds will look like bird shit. The miller 185 is my go to welder.
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I had a HF Flux Core welder with a Flip down mask. Seriously, I think 3 year old Chinese kids building Smittybilt bumpers did a better job. I couldn't see anything and the feeding was very inconsistent.

Now I have a Hobart 190 and an auto darkening mask, I feel like a Pro now. Don't bother with Flux Core unless your working with dirty surfaces. Too much spatter and it leaves a lot to clean up. Not to mention gas is ALOT easier to get a good weld with.
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Dont buy a friggin flux core type mig welder, your welds will look like bird shit. The miller 185 is my go to welder.
I've seen a good welder make perfect looking welds with a flux core welder.
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I've seen a good welder make perfect looking welds with a flux core welder.
x2..nothing wrong with flux core
flux core enables you to remove the gas shield which lets you see what you are doing better and get in tighter spots
mig is much easier if you are just learning..
mig is better for very thin stuff such as body panels..
140 mig as mentioned by someone above is fine for anything 1/8 inch or thinner
Miller,Lincoln and Hobart are 3 very good names with parts and repair readily available
I have been welding 40 years,owned my own welding business for about 20 and taught welding for 4 so I prefer a DC stick with 7018 rods ( 70,000 pounds per square inch tensile strength ) but it takes practice to be good
any hood with clean lenses works fine for me but for the beginner the auto darkening usually makes it easier
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Thanks for all the advice guys, It's really appreciated. You have no idea. I want to find a 220 MIG welder that is powerful enough to build bumpers. Thats 180 and up right?
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A 180 will be fine, more than that won't typically be necessary for welding 3/16" to the occasional 1/4". I personally wouldn't use 1/4" steel for anything on a Jeep. And while a smaller welder can weld smaller pieces of 3/16", you really need a 180 to weld pieces of 3/16" that are big enough for bumpers, skidplates, rocker guards, etc.
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Thanks Jerry =D Appreciate it, while I have your attention, my exhaust manifold keeps cracking and they have the flex joints. Any ideas?
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and don't be cheap when you go to buy your face shield. If you can't see what your welding
it is not good.
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Thanks Jerry =D Appreciate it, while I have your attention, my exhaust manifold keeps cracking and they have the flex joints. Any ideas?
Welding the cracks won't provide a long-term solution, it'll just crack again next to the welds. I'd bite the bullet and install a new header with flex joints from a different vendor. Most seem to hold up well... at least better than yours did.
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Hard to beat any of the Miller welders. I like the Millermatic 211. It uses either 110 or 220.
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Any preferable vendors?
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Your local welding/gas supply shop will usually cut you a deal if you buy the welder and then buy some gas from them. They can get you exactly what you need too.

They gave me the first fillup free even though I didn't get a welder from them.

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