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Old 05-21-2009, 08:55 AM   #1
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What are you guys towing with your TJ?

I had somone tell me that I could not tow a 1000lb aluminum 5X8' enclosed trailer with my '01 TJ 4.0 auto. The tonque weight is only 200lbs. Why couldn't I do this?

Also any experience with Versa Hauler dirtbike racks? Im ultimately going to tote around some dirtbikes but it would be nice to have an enclosed trailer : )

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Old 05-21-2009, 09:01 AM   #2
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I tow a 5x10 landscape trailer w/ a 52" Commercial walk behind mower and it does it w/ ease. (700 lb mower) Just be careful hauling and leave yourself plenty of room to stop. With the short wheelbase, I could forsee braking problems. Make sure you're nice and level and run trailer brakes if necessary.

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Old 05-21-2009, 09:27 AM   #3
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I've towed wood out of the Sierras for years with my Jeep. As much as a half cord at a time. I'm not sure what that weigh's but I just take it easy and slow.
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Old 05-21-2009, 11:11 AM   #4
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I tow a 5' x 13' metal utility trailer with 2 ATV's or an ATV and a dirt bike. It pulls it really well; I just have to give myself a little extra stopping distance in instances where I can control that (don't tailgate, etc.)
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Old 05-21-2009, 11:16 AM   #5
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Your '01 TJ with the 4.0L and automatic tranny has a 2000 lb. towing weight capacity. Whoever told you it couldn't tow 1000 lbs. is wrong. Personally, I tow a 1700 lb. or so pop-up trailer behind my '97 TJ with 4.0L and automatic tranny just fine.

But set your trailer's tongue weight so it is 10% to 15% of the trailer's total weight. Your present 200 lb. tongue weight is heavier than it needs to be if your trailer only weighs 1000 lbs.
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Your '01 TJ with the 4.0L and automatic tranny has a 2000 lb. towing weight capacity. Whoever told you it couldn't tow 1000 lbs. is wrong. Personally, I tow a 1700 lb. or so pop-up trailer behind my '97 TJ with 4.0L and automatic tranny just fine.

But set your trailer's tongue weight so it is 10% to 15% of the trailer's total weight. Your present 200 lb. tongue weight is heavier than it needs to be if your trailer only weighs 1000 lbs.
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Totally stock. I'd like to do a spring-over and put some bigger tires on it in the future however so I could take it on something like the Old Mojave Road which is a rough dirt road.
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Old 05-21-2009, 12:20 PM   #8
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obviously give ur self plenty of room for braking,
but the brakes arent of much as a concern as tearing apart your transmission, like bransford said it should be rated for 2,000 lbs but still take it easy and slow and ur tranny will last a lot longer.

and for the dirtbike rack it should not be a problem, i used to have one on tj. now i just use my truck if i ever take my bike anywhere tho.
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Old 05-21-2009, 02:01 PM   #9
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a few times i've needed to deliver some equipment rentals w/ it when the truck was out. i've used the 5' x 8' trailer to tow a 2500 lb mini-skid steer
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Old 05-21-2009, 06:42 PM   #10
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I tow my 19 1/2 foot boat=2500 lbs. give or take.
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Old 05-21-2009, 07:27 PM   #11
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Nice boat Dave!
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Old 05-21-2009, 08:25 PM   #12
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I've towed a lot of equipment with TJs over the years and had never experienced trouble...2 snowmobiles in the winter...3 dirt bikes...2 SeaDoos...lumber...2 ATVs. I was always careful and thought I was in control. Until the day I tried to stop quickly while towing my Ski Nautique at about 50mph. Even with 4 wheel disc brakes and good tires, the boat pushed the Jeep and my family into 4 lanes of fast moving traffic...there was nothing I could do...pumping the brakes...locking them up...no amount of finesse or skill could halt our forward progress. Really bad scene all around. Fortunate that we weren't all hurt badly. I had towed for years and was always careful...but eventually the laws of physics caught up with me and I nearly paid dearly. The manufacturers tow rating may not have a whole lot to do with horsepower or drivetrain strength...think more about your ability to control all that mass at speed. I traded that TJ for a crew cab Tundra about 2 weeks later.
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Old 05-21-2009, 09:03 PM   #13
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^^^ Exactly why I said the brakes are the biggest concern. Out of curiosity - were you running trailer brakes when that happened?
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^^^ Exactly why I said the brakes are the biggest concern. Out of curiosity - were you running trailer brakes when that happened?
No, it's not the brakes that are the biggest concern because our TJ brakes are essentially the same are in much bigger Jeeps that don't have nearly the same towing weight issues the TJ does. You could put Boeing 747 brakes on a TJ and it wouldn't cure the problem which is its short wheelbase. Even with trailer brakes, heavy trailers have mass that can push your Jeep into, as happened above, oncoming traffic. And do you really want to be that dependent on trailer brakes to keep you out of trouble? The TJ's 2000 lb. tow limit is mostly due to the wheelbase, not its brakes. I have the Big Brake kit (dual piston calipers) from Vanco on my TJ that will easily lock up my 35" tires and I STILL won't tow more than 2000 lbs.
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I have towed a 22ft pontoon boat with my 2.5l tj and it was fine... needless to say tho i took my time and didnt go very fast
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No, it's not the brakes that are the biggest concern because our TJ brakes are essentially the same are in much bigger Jeeps that don't have nearly the same towing weight issues the TJ does. You could put Boeing 747 brakes on a TJ and it wouldn't cure the problem which is its short wheelbase. Even with trailer brakes, heavy trailers have mass that can push your Jeep into, as happened above, oncoming traffic. And do you really want to be that dependent on trailer brakes to keep you out of trouble? The TJ's 2000 lb. tow limit is mostly due to the wheelbase, not its brakes. I have the Big Brake kit (dual piston calipers) from Vanco on my TJ that will easily lock up my 35" tires and I STILL won't tow more than 2000 lbs.

OK, "stopping" is the biggest concern. (vs going) I know it's because of the wheelbase, see post '2'.
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Old 05-31-2009, 07:43 PM   #17
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Found this old pic today. This worked that 4cyl pretty well.

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just small trailers with gear...tents, parts, tool chest...etc.


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