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Old 10-30-2012, 02:49 PM   #1
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What cheap stuff on your TJ makes you angry?

I'm pretty new to TJ's but here are a few that really tick me off.........

Cheap doors......they split the sheetmetal and the strap pin bends easy.

Wiring......mopar used under gauged wire thru out the vehicle. I discovered the cig lighter circuit will burn up before the factory fuse will blow(spotlight)

Transmission.....I have the NV3550 and it is the worst manual transmission I have EVER had. The feel is like a sloppy noodle and the syncros are almost ruined at 160k miles. I owned a 97 2.5/5 speed and a 97 4.0/5 speed with NO trans issues whatsoever.

To be fair the transmisson could be subjective as I have no idea how abused it was before.

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Old 10-30-2012, 02:51 PM   #2
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Even with those things...still more awesome than a brand new Prius!

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Old 10-30-2012, 02:59 PM   #3
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ok well the doors were never meant to do anything anyways. It even says so on the warning at the top that talks about how my softtop will not save me. It's a very basic vehicle designed to get shit done not be a comfortable safety car. Tranny I've never had an issue and hear good things about it. Wiring, I can't really say. I do think that jeep uses this "rugged basic machine" idea to get away with quality stuff. But I'm happy with what I got in a TJ.
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Old 10-30-2012, 03:04 PM   #4
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The 42rle transmission has a plastic piece that holds the linkage to the actual gear shifter on the tranny. That little pos broke off without warning and left me confused as hell on why I couldn't go I gear. I fixed it with zip ties at first and then did a little hardware store engineering. All fixed, no problems now, but it seems there could have been a better way from the factory.

Personally the glove box, center console, and the locks for those feel cheap too.

All things aside I still love my jeep!
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Old 10-30-2012, 03:07 PM   #5
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The splitting in the door is because they didn't re inforce with cross broke sheet metal and they didn't properly vent the hard top........when the door gets slammed shut the door flexs big time due the cab being a sealed box.
I know it has those tiny vents on the side but they are useless at releasing air quick enough when you shut the door.

I just push the door shut with my shoulder cuz I know better but a horrible design non the less.
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Old 10-30-2012, 03:08 PM   #6
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MILK JUGS!! why??? lol
Thats why we remove em!
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Old 10-30-2012, 03:44 PM   #7
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MILK JUGS!! why??? lol
Thats why we remove em!
With you on the milk jugs. I despise them. First thing I did to my LJ was rip them off as fast as I could.
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Old 10-30-2012, 04:01 PM   #8
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Old 10-30-2012, 04:04 PM   #9
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Stock dana 35 is garbage...

I find no issues with the NV3550 besides the marble sound it makes...
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Old 10-30-2012, 04:07 PM   #10
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Plastic piece of crap that holds the clutch pedal and push rod together. Cotter key or c clip anything but palstic

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Old 10-30-2012, 04:08 PM   #11
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X2 with d35.


Should come with a stock 8.8 like mine!!!
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Old 10-30-2012, 04:09 PM   #12
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oh yeah, that white metal they use on the tailgate hinges and hardtop rear glass hinges..
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Old 10-30-2012, 04:11 PM   #13
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There is no vehicle manufactured that comes from the factory with out some type of stupidness built into it.
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Old 10-30-2012, 04:45 PM   #14
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for the trans flush and change the fluid, I did mine in my 04tj with redline mtl and the marble sound is gone and so far 1st gear has not been giving me problem with the cold weather here in chicago.
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Old 10-30-2012, 04:56 PM   #15
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also to add the stock radio is trash, 4wd linkage, the lock on the glove box
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Old 10-30-2012, 04:57 PM   #16
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The handles on the doors I've had problems with both of them
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Old 10-30-2012, 05:12 PM   #17
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JEFFERY just sell your Wrangler and be done with it all.

and have a blast in your new Honda. those things have no cheap stuff in them.
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Old 10-30-2012, 05:16 PM   #18
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JEFFERY just sell your Wrangler and be done with it all.

and have a blast in your new Honda. those things have no cheap stuff in them.
Nah just have to slowly replace what you don't like about it.
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Old 10-30-2012, 05:26 PM   #19
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I had ax-15 that first gear went out of.replaced it with the 3550 and have had no issues . throw out bearing is loud while at idle but from what I read thats normal.
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Old 10-30-2012, 05:48 PM   #20
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The passanger. She's as cheap as they get when I ask for money!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 10-30-2012, 05:55 PM   #21
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There is no vehicle manufactured that comes from the factory with out some type of stupidness built into it.
That is where the design budget ran out..
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Old 10-30-2012, 06:31 PM   #22
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Can't believe no-one has mentioned TORX yet
Although, I kinda like them

The worst travesty on my old '97 3 speed auto is the transmission breather.
Luckily the later autos had a proper breather tube added.
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Old 10-30-2012, 06:39 PM   #23
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The TC skid!!! That thing is effin enormous!!!

I have a love hate relationship with the torx!
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Old 10-30-2012, 06:41 PM   #24
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Inside the shift handle on my 06, there was a little plastic do-lolly that looked like a string of pearls.
It broke one time while we were out wheelin. I couldn't get it to shift to and from gears.

Once I got it home and tore it apart I realized it was going to be a problem. So I did a little democratic engineering on it and used a piece of plastic coat hanger that I modified slightly to "make do"

That was a couple of years ago, it still works just fine. I figure "what the hell, if it works, don't fix it"

OH! and the dang stock stereo. I went through more of those than I can count. Well, at least 5 and finally gave up under protest. I hate an aftermarket unit but have really no other choice I guess.
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Old 10-30-2012, 06:54 PM   #25
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Radio is crap, week spare tire holder, and lock on glove.
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Old 10-30-2012, 07:41 PM   #26
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Junk plastic door panels that crack, because the door edge that they fit over is not bent properly to fit and support the panel.

OPDA, poor design for lack of oil flow to the gear in the 05,06 models.
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Old 10-30-2012, 08:50 PM   #27
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The center console is really cheap.The release/lock needs dis-assembley and cleaning often. And after an hour on the hi-way you could fry and egg on the floorboards. But I wouldnt trade her for a JK... or a Prius
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Old 10-30-2012, 08:57 PM   #28
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Maybe I'm being too picky here, but I just replaced my soft top for the first time and the screws that hold the header on are NOT stainless steel. Had to remove em all with a pair of pliers the were so rusted.
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:00 PM   #29
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There is no vehicle manufactured that comes from the factory with out some type of stupidness built into it.
That is quite true. Just a matter of how much and what kind.
However, if we accept whatever they throw at us without complaint, they'll just make worse cars and it will be our fault for being stupid shoppers.
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Why-not just go ahead and put 1tons under it

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