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Old 01-05-2013, 03:08 AM   #1
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What does factory buy back on title mean

I bought an lj last year and its been sitting back my mind what is that mean? And why was it bought back and what was wrong and what was fixed. Is there way i could find that stuff out?

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It and sold it at a huge discount.

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What do you mean. Like was this a lemon before?
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Old 01-05-2013, 03:49 AM   #4
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Yep, that's what it usually means.


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It can also indicated a repossession. If it was financed through the manufacturer. (I'm thinking) I'm in finance and liable to buy back bad loans......
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It means it was a lemon most likely and the manufacturer was forced to buy it back from the owner and pay them back for it.
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Manufactures don't finance cars. Lenders do.
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Btw, your lemon would have been repaired and resold. You would most likely know if it was still a lemon because you have owned it for over a year. I am guessing the time period when Chrysler took it back was while it was relatively new so it has been in service a long time.

In the grand scheme of things I would rather own a former lemon than say a salvage tittle.

Also the threshold for determining a lemon can be pretty low. For example, if the car broken down and was sent to the shop four times for the same problem and could not be fixed, that could constitute a lemon. Maybe it needed a new motor.

I have "lemoned" a car and my brother just forced Chrysler to buy back his mini van after two years of service. Happens more than you think.
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Manufactures don't finance cars. Lenders do.
Yes and no.... car companies often have large financial bank like divisions. Eg General Motors financial. If not they have guarantees/back the investor against default for a specified period of time. Such as the O.00 Apr deals you see promoted.

This allows the manufacturer to entice new buyers. If a person utilized one of these programs and went delinquent more than three months in the first 6 months, then the car company is forced to buy back the collateral.

I'm not saying this is the case with you, but could be an alternative for .
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Btw, your lemon would have been repaired and resold. You would most likely know if it was still a lemon because you have owned it for over a year. I am guessing the time period when Chrysler took it back was while it was relatively new so it has been in service a long time.

In the grand scheme of things I would rather own a former lemon than say a salvage tittle.

Also the threshold for determining a lemon can be pretty low. For example, if the car broken down and was sent to the shop four times for the same problem and could not be fixed, that could constitute a lemon. Maybe it needed a new motor.

I have "lemoned" a car and my brother just forced Chrysler to buy back his mini van after two years of service. Happens more than you think.
This is exactly correct. I could have been something very simple (or not). Because the Jeep has been around for a long time, it's nothing to worry about

I went through this with my new 99Durango. The inept dealer could not fix an oil leak after several tries. I filed for a lemon in NJ and Chrysler at another dealer had one more shot and put in a new engine. (The amount of tries to fix varies state to state)
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hmm, interesting. could the OP find out why it was a lemon? just out of curiosity.
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I bought it from.a small dealer. Could a jeep slealership find all info on it?
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The financing "arms" are entirely separate companies. If GMAC if financing a vehicle then GMAC has the paper and not GM.

Manufactures can't lend even if they wanted to.
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Lemon laws are federal laws and there is a minimum criteria. However, some states are more consumer friendly.

some dealers or manufactures may be willing to buy the car back for someone without going through the legal lemon process.

In my case I sued and forced Chrysler to settle with me. I used an attorney and paid him. I also forced Chrysler to pay the attorney fees. In my brothers case, the dealer bought his car back without a lawyer as my brother agreed to buy another car from them so they worked out an arrangement satisfactory to both parties.

Getting the maintenance history on the vehicle might be simple or impossible. I would start by giving the vin to a dealer and see what they can pull up.

In my case, Chrysler had the records blocked once a lawyer got involved. I kept all the paper work so it did not matter.
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I.might now change the name of my jeep. Sad thing 2 days had it starter died but she runs like a top. I just like to know what was done and why. I was skeptical to buy it but a hard top lj with 99k 6 speed with the black and gray interior for 9k
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In my case I sued and forced Chrysler to settle with me. I used an attorney and paid him. I also forced Chrysler to pay the attorney fees. In my brothers case, the dealer bought his car back without a lawyer as my brother agreed to buy another car from them so they worked out an arrangement satisfactory to both parties.
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Wow. Mine was super easy in NJ. I contacted a consumer group on the web. I sent them all the info and records and they sent it to the correct address (not the one in the warranty booklet). Within a couple days the Chrysler regional rep call me and wanted me see me at the dealer of my choice. I was done with the original dealer. It was obvious where the leak was but rather that take the chance of having to take the vehicle back he told the dealer to put in a new motor. The headers and K&N intake did not even phase him. I offered up the original parts but he told the the dealer to put them on the new motor.
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You used a consumer group that is basically run by the auto industry I suspect. I went down that path first, but they were unable to fix the problem, not unwilling. So I sued them.

Every state has arbitration boards that are made up of dealers to help solve consumer issues. They don't want to be sued and frankly, most people want their problems fixed, so if they can make you happy, then it works. BUT, they don't have to follow the lemon law if you agree to their offer.

What happened in my case is that the law required Chrysler to buy back my car, pay back all interest on my lawn, my down payment and pay legal fees. The suit resulted in a fast settlement. Took about 3 months.
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I was in CA at the time which is very consumer friendly. Frankly I don't know how anyone stays in business in that state.
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I bought it from.a small dealer. Could a jeep slealership find all info on it?
I happen to be a salesman at a large Jeep dealership, and I'd be happy to run your VIN and see what information is stored in Chrysler's system. All I'll need is the last 8 digits of the VIN as well as the approximate odometer reading.
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I happen to be a salesman at a large Jeep dealership, and I'd be happy to run your VIN and see what information is stored in Chrysler's system. All I'll need is the last 8 digits of the VIN as well as the approximate odometer reading.
Sure i called the origianal jeep.dealer all he saw was in 07 or 08 was bought back but all history was gone. 5p306503 about 115000. I just wanted to know why even though she runs like a champ. If you cant find out ill have to call big wigs to see if theyd even tell me.
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Called big wigs and they said it was a trim and paint issuse. I laughed because i know the spot exactly where it is. It showed up 3 months after i bought it. Im not worried ill.prep it and paint it black.trim and be all good.
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It means, because of ongoing problems, the factory was forced to take it back under the lemon law.
I would not be to concerned about it, because any and all mechanical item's can be fixed/repaired by a knowledgeable Jeep Technician.
The only time that this doesn't apply is if there is a factory defect with no long term repair solution!
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Like the gas tank ovet flowing
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I was in CA at the time which is very consumer friendly. Frankly I don't know how anyone stays in business in that state.
It is not always necessarily the state but instead the corporation. I had a Dodge Ram V-10 club cab that was in the body shop several times to try and stop the 3rd door from sounding like it was going to pop open because it rattled so bad. 3 tries and a particular stretch of road I could always reproduce the problem on and a District Rep was right on top of getting it taken care of. Unfortunately that put me out of time for another Dodge and into a Ford due to availability.

The second Ford was at the dealer for 45 days in the first 3 months of ownership, more than 10 tries to fix the paint THEY screwed up in their detail shop, new windshield trim, new bumpers, new grill, basically new exterior due to an exuberant buff job and they still wouldn't buy it back.


Their only solution was to give me an additional 8 grand customer satisfaction cash on a trade in. I took the deal and the new truck was no better. I'm in a Dodge now, have been since 05 and to this day would not take another Ford if the pulled a new on into the driveway and tossed me the keys and title if I had to drive it as part of the deal. If I could trade it in on a new Dodge, then maybe but I'd have to spend some time thinking about it.
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It is not always necessarily the state but instead the corporation. I had a Dodge Ram V-10 club cab that was in the body shop several times to try and stop the 3rd door from sounding like it was going to pop open because it rattled so bad. 3 tries and a particular stretch of road I could always reproduce the problem on and a District Rep was right on top of getting it taken care of. Unfortunately that put me out of time for another Dodge and into a Ford due to availability.

The second Ford was at the dealer for 45 days in the first 3 months of ownership, more than 10 tries to fix the paint THEY screwed up in their detail shop, new windshield trim, new bumpers, new grill, basically new exterior due to an exuberant buff job and they still wouldn't buy it back.


Their only solution was to give me an additional 8 grand customer satisfaction cash on a trade in. I took the deal and the new truck was no better. I'm in a Dodge now, have been since 05 and to this day would not take another Ford if the pulled a new on into the driveway and tossed me the keys and title if I had to drive it as part of the deal. If I could trade it in on a new Dodge, then maybe but I'd have to spend some time thinking about it.
Yeah, a friend of my was a service manager for a government motors dealership, and he said to make sure the service advisor wrote up the problem the same way every time, because if they wrote it up as a different problem, it would not count towards the three strikes.
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Sure i called the origianal jeep.dealer all he saw was in 07 or 08 was bought back but all history was gone. 5p306503 about 115000.
When I pull up your Jeep's report in Chrysler's computer, it says nothing about a buy-back. I'm glad you found an answer to your question.
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Yea since was a wrangler was not really worried but i had it almost year and had wild hair to find out. Funny thing prob not fixed but glad i did autobody classes
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Yeah, a friend of my was a service manager for a government motors dealership, and he said to make sure the service advisor wrote up the problem the same way every time, because if they wrote it up as a different problem, it would not count towards the three strikes.
I suspect the Ford dealer that screwed the truck up was not writing it up each time they called me down to inspect it. I was there enough with their failures that the GM asked me why I had not driven it through the showroom doors yet.

The bad part about all of that was it was a brand new truck, we bought it, noted on the Due Bill that it had some fall-out on the white paint which is common on white vehicles, and it was no big thing to have it detailed upon our return from our vacation. We took it to a dealer closer to our home with permission from both dealers to have the detail work done and the fall-out buffed off. They buffed it off alright, it, the chrome on the bumpers, burned the plastic cowl, door handles, wiper arms, headlight trims, edges of all the panels through the clear coat, grill, and basically ruined the whole exterior of the vehicle. It turns out that the first dealer had oversprayed it with black auto paint.

I neglected to mention that I had an 03 F-250 6.0 short bed 4 door with 4wd that had a check engine light on 45 times, the front seats died in 10,000 miles, the front brakes went to crap in the same time, rear prop shaft died, transmission needed to be re-done because it wouldn't shift right, and they recalled it for "emissions" and it was a diesel. Essentially they reprogrammed it which killed the power, ruined the awesome performance of the trans when it did work right, and turned it from kick ass into a ho hum vehicle. All of that was in the first 15,000 miles.

I grew weary of spending all my spare time at the dealer and chatted with the GM about trading it in. He told me he didn't want it. That was the final straw for me and Fords.

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