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Old 08-03-2008, 08:59 PM   #31
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Wow, didn't mean to start a pissing contest lol. Thanks for all the info, I'll make sure to look at the options and make sure I get what is needed.
Don't worry about the pissing contests, they've been going on since the beginning of time. Nice jeep by the way. (I won't mention my 1.25BL was complete.)

Did you ever get an answer to your original question?

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Old 08-03-2008, 09:04 PM   #32
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Sorry about all that junk bud.


What tire size do you want to run?

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Old 08-04-2008, 01:37 AM   #33
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Sorry about all that junk bud.


What tire size do you want to run?
Was thinking 33's since it has 31's on it now and since I am going to be going with the 1.25 BL they would work/look better.


Another Question would be what I should be looking for when it comes to lockers. What do I need to replace/purchase? Pretty much want to turn this thing into a rough and ready toy.

I am quite new at the whole off roading experience so some of my questions will be quite idiotic.
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Thats not a dumb question. There arent any, how are you supposed to find out if you dont ask!? If your just going to run 33's then you should get a super 35 kit. It replaces the axle shafts with alloy 30 spline (about 30% stronger) and the standard carrier with a Detroit locker. It a better alternative to a complet axle swap and its plenty strong enough to handle 33's. Look at 4x4groupbuy.com and performanceoffroadcenter.com, they usually have pretty good deals on those kits.
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Old 08-04-2008, 02:34 AM   #35
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... and its plenty strong enough to handle 33's.
A Super 35 is actually up to handling 35" tires for most needs within reason. I know of several fairly hard-core wheelers who have done Johnson Valley many times with 35" tires with a Super 35 in the back without problem.
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If your just going to run 33's then you should get a super 35 kit..... and its plenty strong enough to handle 33's.
so i guess grntj is completely right in what he said then, right jerry
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Thats not a dumb question. There arent any, how are you supposed to find out if you dont ask!? If your just going to run 33's then you should get a super 35 kit. It replaces the axle shafts with alloy 30 spline (about 30% stronger) and the standard carrier with a Detroit locker. It a better alternative to a complet axle swap and its plenty strong enough to handle 33's. Look at 4x4groupbuy.com and performanceoffroadcenter.com, they usually have pretty good deals on those kits.
That was exactly the type of info i was looking for, thx.

Should I do something similar to the front? Or it it strong enough stock?


Alos, I have a buddy that does Rhono Linings, is it worth ripping out the carpet and doing a spray on lining? Or it that just a prefered thing?

Thank god for the new job, an the extra play money
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Should I do something similar to the front? Or it it strong enough stock?
The front axle is usually ok until you start doing crazy tough trails or getting crazy hammering the gas pedal. The reason being is the front axle seldom sees more than about 50% of the torque that the rear axle sees on a regular basis. Even with a locker, the front axle can handle tires up to about the 35" tire size within reason. But if you start doing hard core trails, you can upgrade the front axleshafts to stronger axleshafts that will hold up nicely to some pretty stupid-tough 5+ rated trails like are found out in Johnson Valley Calif. 35" is about it for the front Dana 30 axle though, no matter how well you build it.
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^X2 Id leave the front open for a while and see how you like having the rear locked up. If you feel you truly need to lock the front then you can do something simple and cheap like an Aussie locker. It just replaces the spider gears so there isnt any kind of messing with setting up gears or worrying about backlash. If you can pull an axle shaft then you can throw one of those in. And they are fairly inexpensive (about $200) compared to a full case locker. Another bonus is that if you didnt like it you can always pull it back out and just put the spiders back in.
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as for the rhino lining/linex/herculiner....thats just personal prefferance. It makes it easier to clean the interior though. The carpet is very easy to remove.
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Well, as far as rims and tires.... You could always go for these!

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Well, as far as rims and tires.... You could always go for these!

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Looks fine, I'd offer him $750 in green cash and see if he takes it. From the reinforcements described in the ad, it definitely sounds like it might have been used hard on the trail so you can express your concerns to him as justification for the lower $750. $750 to $800 seems to be the going rate for a stock D44 out of a TJ though his does include a few nice extras like spare axleshafts. You'll also need to set up the new gears so that will be $250 or so in labor for that, plus a carrier or locker. For the rear, I would go with a full case locker. If you really can't afford that but want a locker, the ONLY lunchbox locker I'd install in the rear would be a Powertrax "No-Slip" locker. Other lunchbox lockers (Aussie, Lockright, EZ-Locker) are too poorly behaved for use on the street when installed in the rear axle.
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Thats not a dumb question. There arent any, how are you supposed to find out if you dont ask!? If your just going to run 33's then you should get a super 35 kit. It replaces the axle shafts with alloy 30 spline (about 30% stronger) and the standard carrier with a Detroit locker. It a better alternative to a complet axle swap and its plenty strong enough to handle 33's. Look at 4x4groupbuy.com and performanceoffroadcenter.com, they usually have pretty good deals on those kits.
I know this is kinda beating a dead horse but had to come back to this...

Should I put wheel spacers in to give it a wider stance?

Also, is the locker setup you were talking about have a removable locker for when I am city driving?

Hope I understand what I am asking lol
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Lockers are not meant to be removeable for city driving but if you choose the right locker, a Jeep can be very well mannered with lockers. My Jeep Wrangler TJ has front and rear lockers yet it is very well behaved in town. With aftermarket wheels, your Jeep will have a wider stance. Spacers often stick the wheels out too far.
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Spacers often stick the wheels out too far.
Obviously that depends the width of the spacers and the bs of the rims. I've seen spacers as small as 3/4"

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