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Old 08-02-2008, 12:47 PM   #1
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what size rims/tires?

Just bought, what I thought was a stocker 99 wrangler 4.0 sport, it has a procomp es2000 2in lift with stabilizers.

My question is what would be a good tire/wheel size to put on it since the rest is stock?

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Also, what would be a good body lift height with a 2in lift before I buy wheels?

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Congrats on the new purchase. Tire brand is going to be a major personal preferance so get what you like. Although many people have had great success with a good mud terrain. Either way, with a 2" lift I would add a JKS 1.25" body lift and then shoot for a 33" tire on a 15x8" rim to mount them on. Rims are another personal preferance thing since they are mostly about looks unless you get into bead locks. So whatever brand you go with is up to you but thats what Id suggest as far as sizes go.
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GrnTJ, thx for the info. How hard is it to install a body lift? Is it something I can do myself? Also after I looked up that kit should I get the 1in motor mount lift with it also?

FYI, I've ripped apart classic Mustangs since I was a kid, so no slouch in a garage here.
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GrnTJ, thx for the info. How hard is it to install a body lift? Is it something I can do myself? Also after I looked up that kit should I get the 1in motor mount lift with it also?

FYI, I've ripped apart classic Mustangs since I was a kid, so no slouch in a garage here.
Sorry to jump in on a question addressed to you, Green, but I just installed a 1" body lift about two months ago. It was a cinch. It took my dad and I about 45 minutes to install the entire thing, including lowering the fan shroud. You DO NOT need to install the 1" motor mount if you're planning on lowering the fan shroud. A MML is good to have if you have vibes in your drivetrain, and you MUST have the body lift to install the MML. See what I mean?
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1" would be a good body lift but i've said it before and i'll say it again, the 1" bodylifts sold are not complete.

also when shopping for rims, look for something with about 4" backspacing.
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Old 08-02-2008, 04:35 PM   #7
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WTF are you talking about?

my 1" BL was complete as could be. had everything i needed. it was easy as pie to install too. if you get the 1" BL go for 32's or 33's. if you don't, then go for 31's or 32's. i added a 1" BL to my 2" coil lift when i had 32's. i liked it with the 3" lift and 32's but 33's would be nice also.
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WTF are you talking about?
my 1" BL was complete as could be.
did it have fuel filler extension pipe? Did it have "fuel filler breather?" extension pipe? How about bracket that lifts up the steering bracket from the frame since now the body is an inch higher?

If it did, i take it all back
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did it have fuel filler extension pipe? Did it have "fuel filler breather?" extension pipe? How about bracket that lifts up the steering bracket from the frame since now the body is an inch higher?

If it did, i take it all back
Those are not needed with a 1'' bl , with a 2'' or god forbid a 3''bl yes you need those items.
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the fuel filler hose was tight enough when stock, matter of fact the plastic around the fuel cap was cracking before i did the body lift, i rather not take any chances putting more pressure on the thin plastic.

as far as the steering bracket goes, from memory it extends on a spline but i'm not sure (correct me if i'm wrong) LIfting the body 1" up will extend the steering shaft so now it will be holding on to less of the splines.

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There are also differance in jeep parts between years bud. I still have slack in my gas filler hose and vent hose with the 1.25 bl.

As far as the steering shaft mine extended only a 1/16th of a inch from stock.
With a 2'' bl the steering shaft is still going to extend even with the lift braket.

When moving the body higher 1'' compared to 2'' is obviously going to have different symptoms and require different parts or not require some parts.

And for your gas filler exstentions did you just get peices to add to the factory hoses or did they give you a full replacement part/hoses?
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OK, I'll say it. Any thing more than an 1" body lift looks terrible, its just too much gap. Its not any less or more safe than a 1" kit and the 1" kits ARE complete. Stop the BS about incomplete 1" BL kits.
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it came with an extension pipe as i said, its held in place by clamps, also while you're at it you can weld 2 rods inside the extension pipe they give you so people cant steal your gas.
looks terrible eh? Really? You cant do that with a 1" bl.

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[QUOTE=Triple88a;251637]looks horrible eh? Really?
No not horrible, I said terrible.
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looks horrible eh? Really?
No not horrible, I said terrible.
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it came with an extension pipe as i said, its held in place by clamps, also while you're at it you can weld 2 rods inside the extension pipe they give you so people cant steal your gas.
looks terrible eh? Really? You cant do that with a 1" bl.
I know what it come's with. I cant remember how many body lifts I've installed. Yes the PA 2'' bl is a fine kit and works fine. The point is they still dont replace the hoses they give you extension to clamp on. Wow 72 cents worth of hose and a couple clamps that you can pick up at any auto store.

And ...it's not hard to add a piece of pipe with a screen or welded rods to any hose. So yes you can do it with a 1'' bl.


I'm not telling anyone that a 2'' bl is bad or good. People will do what they want and like. Thats the joy of modifications you can do what you like.
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dude, like orange already said, you don't need any of that crap with a 1" BL. my BL came with all i needed.

don't forget to tell the people that you had to do some extra work to cover up the gap of your 2" BL. and you can still see it in the front.

why the heck wouldn't you just buy an approved cheap locking gas cap...
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why the heck wouldn't you just buy an approved cheap locking gas cap...
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1" would be a good body lift but i've said it before and i'll say it again, the 1" bodylifts sold are not complete.

also when shopping for rims, look for something with about 4" backspacing.
whats it missing then, the bolts?
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why the heck wouldn't you just buy an approved cheap locking gas cap...
I had to flip the bumper and then i had to flip the steps. Everything nearly bolted perfectly I dont mind spending few extra hours on my jeep

Also here in illinois we have winter
The last 2 locking gas caps i had both froze up in the winter, i barely got them off (had to rip them apart to take them off). I dont have a garage so my rig stays outside in the rain, snow, ice and whatever mother nature throws at it. I will not get another locking cap. Not everything is green like you'd like it to be Big Jeep.

Oh crap i'm starting to sound like some people around here.
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Why is everyone hijacking the thread? PM if you want to get into it.

Bottom line is Wrongside, you know how high you should go to get the look/ability you want so look around and make your choices.
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i don't live in illinois and that wouldn't affect me. not everybody lives where there are freezing winters.
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whats it missing then, the bolts?
They're sold complete, there are just some here that that just spout off with nonsense much of the time. I've installed several PA body lift kits and never needed anything additional not included in the kit.
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i'm done, you want to risk joining the group that has damaged their filler plastic thingy because the pipe is too tight, its up to you. It has happened to people and it will happen again.
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You know what I ment And even if he does need to buy a few extra things after his bl (not saying if he will or not) then who cares!? He wants the bl so a little extra work one way or the other probably wont persuade his decision.
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i'm done, you want to risk joining the group that has damaged their filler plastic thingy because the pipe is too tight, its up to you. It has happened to people and it will happen again.
Most ppl have this problem because they dont disconnect the hoses before lifting and installing a 1'' bl. All you have to do is disconnect them and connect them back when finish installing the pucks. I haven't look at body lift instructions for a jeep probally for 8 years but I'm pretty sure it's in the instructions to disconnect the hoses. I've never broke one of the plastic pieces due to installing a 1''bl over the years. I never said it didn't happen. The reason the 2'' bl kits have the exstension is they are required with the distance the body is moving away from the body. Each vehicle is also going to have different effects from body lifts.
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Wow, didn't mean to start a pissing contest lol. Thanks for all the info, I'll make sure to look at the options and make sure I get what is needed.


Took it out to Hollister Hills, CA today as it sits...Did pretty good. I noticed I definitely noticed I need more clearance, tires, and probably lockers.


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No worries bud. Please feel free to ask any questions on the forum. Don't let people scare you off.

Hows the wheeling out the at the Hills? I aint been out there for 10 years now. You pick a good state to have a jeep in. California has some great wheeling.
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I've seen few pics and movies of Hollister, Looks like a nice playground

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