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Old 07-05-2011, 12:38 PM   #1
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What steps are skipped during BL/MML combo?

I have been looking and planning my install for tomorrow, and just wanted to double check which steps can be skipped from the body lift thanks to the mml. I was hopping to skid the radiator brackets, and fan shroud for sure. I am doing the RC 1.25 and 1 in MML. just because im cheap

anyways, any backup info would be great, and any links to write ups for the combo install would be appreciated as well. thanks!

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Old 07-05-2011, 01:17 PM   #2
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I installed my JKS 1.25" BL/MML a few years ago. Not sure about skipping steps, because I don't have RC instructions, and mine are long gone.
One thing I do remember is it was nice to have a second jack, and a extra pair of hands. It would have taken twice as long to install without them. On the JKS MML, with my Jeep w/AC, I had to unbolt the mount from motor to be able to slide the long bolt out on the driver's side. It cannot come out do to the AC compressor. Then bolted the mount back to the motor, and flipped the long bolt around when it went back in. I kind of did both lifts together. Raised the engine until it hit the shroud, did the body lift, then finished the MML. To me, it was easier than fighting the fan shroud bolts that are a little hard to get to. My instructions said I may not need the provided TC linkage drop bracket if I did both lifts. But, my Jeep kept popping out of 4lo when offroading even after numerous linkage adjustments. So, used it and all was fine. I eventually got rid of that whole linkage issue with an AA relocation bracket. Should of got a Novak though.
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Old 07-05-2011, 03:25 PM   #3
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With my JKS kit I did not have to relocate the fan shroud or use the transfer linkage kit. I removed the shroud bolts, raised the body then raised the motor and reattached the shroud. Removing the motor mount bolts and putting them back in was interesting but with time all came together. By raising the motor along with the body no need to relocate the shroud.
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With my JKS kit I did not have to relocate the fan shroud or use the transfer linkage kit. I removed the shroud bolts, raised the body then raised the motor and reattached the shroud. Removing the motor mount bolts and putting them back in was interesting but with time all came together. By raising the motor along with the body no need to relocate the shroud.
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Old 07-05-2011, 05:56 PM   #5
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I just did mine and i didnt remove anything. i loosened all of the body mount bolts, raised one side enough to put the new spacers in, and lowered it and did the other side. The fan was on the shorud but i did the MML right after words. The only thing i can say is to make sure you lift the motor from the front of the oil pan that way it will come down at the same angle. I didnt and had to realign the motor. not a big deal but i was alone and it was a PITA
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Old 07-05-2011, 10:18 PM   #6
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I thought you were supposed to jack the engine up from the bell housing not the oil pan? haha. but okay.

I don't even think RC came with a tcase linkage thing, but I dont expect to need it. and I dont expect to relocate fan shroud, this is actually gona fix some issues I had because my tcase drop moved my motor and put my fan into the shroud. Im thinking 1.25-1inch leaves 1/4 inch from fan to shroud, and should be fine. if I lift body first then motor I wont run into any interference. I guess I still have to loosen the shroud though. I will figure that out tomorrow. need a few things at the store thenw ill start around 11. My RC lift came with plates for the radiator to set on, will I need to do this since I am raising the body and motor together? I havent seen these before and dont want holes in my frame that I will probably not be using in a few years if I replace with a different BL and brown dog MM's. I just did the RC to get my by with the clearance I need for my current setup but that will all change in the next 5 years so, thats why I went cheap.

I read over both installs and it all seems pretty straight forward. I will be doing the install entirely or partially alone, im not sure yet. I can get a buddy if I need help though. I have two jacks and plenty of tools and access to other stuff. so no big worries. I am just excited to get it done. ! thanks for the advice and stuff all.
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Basically skip anything having to do with unbolting the radiator, fan shroud, etc...my Zone body lift came with a riser tube for the steering carrier bearing or something like that and I DID install that. I also installed the tcase linkage bracket, but my linkage is a lil weird now so I'm gonna remove it soon and see if it was unnecessary with the MML. It still shifts from 2hi to 4lo, just feels tight though.
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Old 07-06-2011, 02:32 AM   #8
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i skipped the fan shroud and the linkage bracket.. but then again.. i did have linkage problems when i was flexing in the rock gardens.. my linkage to my tc is all messed up now but then again.. ive heard its problems to begin with which is why they make aftermarket linkage brackets that totally change how its setup
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Old 07-06-2011, 10:57 AM   #9
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Yes freakin linkage has always sucked, but I didnt get a bracket with the kit anyways that I saw or read about... lol. But okay im eating lunch then getting to work, pretty pumped. I will see how linkage is then adjust with that bolt accordingly afterwards, I only foresee fine tuning required.

SO, no radiator, fan shround, or tcase linkage.

anyone know how many bolts/how long to take out the engine piece with the AC compressor on it?
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When my buddy did it...he took out the entire plate the motor mount is mounted on withoting unbolting the compressor and it was like 4-6 bolts it looked like.
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You need to disconnect the fan shroud before doing the body lift or the fan is going to come in contact with the shroud and will not make anything easier at that point. Also, do not lift the engine by the oil pan as some have suggested. You can find a complete write up on the internet regarding the installation of these parts.
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When my buddy did it...he took out the entire plate the motor mount is mounted on withoting unbolting the compressor and it was like 4-6 bolts it looked like.
Yes that is what I am talking about, the place the compressor is on. Okay thanks doesnt sound too bad.




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You need to disconnect the fan shroud before doing the body lift or the fan is going to come in contact with the shroud and will not make anything easier at that point. Also, do not lift the engine by the oil pan as some have suggested. You can find a complete write up on the internet regarding the installation of these parts.

I am going to jack from the bellhousing. I already did on side of my BL and I didnt have any contact yet to my knowlege, and I will be doing the MML imediately afterwards. so I should be okay as far as the shroud is concerned I believe.

Right now I need to know what the deal is with the radiator core supports it wants me to install. then I can finish up the BL, and move on to the mml.
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Old 07-06-2011, 07:53 PM   #13
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7 hours later and I am done. apparently the threads of my side bolt holes decided to twist themselves and not allow my bolts to thread. that on top of RCs self tapping crap hole bolts not working, so I temp welded them then will real weld later, and a bunch of other garbage, added up to suck. MML tomorrow. thanks for the help guys.

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