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Old 10-25-2012, 01:38 AM   #1
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What's the very best mud tire

Hi everyone, could you all please offer your opinion on the very best mud tyre available for your TJ? Regardless of price. I want to fit my jeep out with a super agressive tyre for the clay mud here.
I am currently running 33x12.5x15 Bridgestone Dueler M/T tyres at 12psi but am finding I slip all over the place in the mud. I have even slipped off a track nearly ending up in a gully possibly rolling!!
My pick so far is Silverstone 117 Extreme mud tyres 33x10.5x15 on 15x7 rims but I would love to hear other opinions before I make a purchase. My plan is to have extreme mud tyres on seperate rims to use just for the mud, we have heaps of mud here (NZ).
Vehicle is a 1999 TJ Sahara with 4" lift and wheel spacers. I do not experience tyre rub unless on maximum articulation and full lock. I believe a radial to be better than cross ply on lighter vehicles but know little about Super Swamper boggers and others.

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Old 10-25-2012, 01:49 AM   #2
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Trapadors I think they are called. I wanna say interco makes them

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Old 10-25-2012, 03:31 AM   #3
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Dick cepek bone crushers is what im running an i have no complaints at all. Do really well in all situations.
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Old 10-25-2012, 03:57 AM   #4
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Im going to chime in with Super swampers, also pittbull tires makes some awesome tires from what I have heard. I personally have no expierence with them but they are worth a look into.
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Old 10-25-2012, 08:33 AM   #5
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Super swamper Boggers.
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Old 10-25-2012, 10:45 AM   #6
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Not a great DD tire, but probably still the best street legal mud tire....especially if the little'r lugs are hot knifed out.

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As far as non-street legal...look into Farm tractor tires:


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Old 10-26-2012, 10:22 PM   #7
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look into the interco line..

interco has a great deal of experience.. made in Louisiana .. we have a lot of clay mud here, too.
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Old 10-26-2012, 10:36 PM   #8
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Been runnin boggers for many years. Any brand of TSL will do fine in mud, but boggers are the choice of most. Bias are always goin to bite better when compared to radials. Take a bias TSL and compare it to an SSR or tsl radial, the lugs are closer together with less voids to bite and self clean. The flipside of that is flat spotting when they sit over night and being more difficult to balance the bias. While boggers do their job well, if you dont have the horsepower to turn em up, they will get you into trouble. They need to sink in a few inches to bite well. Takes a bit of gettin used too. You can look into rice patty, tractor, skid steer, ag tires if you want crazy aggressive, but thats a bit extreme for most folks. Im kinda partial to the tsl/sx line myself. Have great lateral traction and sidewall tread. Boggers have about 0 sideways traction so you can slide down hills rather easily. Try taking a corner on a rainy day goin a lil too fast on pavement with a bogger and you will see what i mean.
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Old 10-26-2012, 10:39 PM   #9
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Yup tsl for off road only
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Old 10-26-2012, 10:51 PM   #10
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Not a great DD tire, but probably still the best street legal mud tire....especially if the little'r lugs are hot knifed out.

TSL Bogger





As far as non-street legal...look into Farm tractor tires:


The only downside to those is directional tires don't work very well in reverse.
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Old 10-26-2012, 10:54 PM   #11
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I like the GY MTRs +K, I will have to let you know how they do once I get into some mud sometime. If you are looking for purely mud though, I have seen a good selection mentioned.
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I can't imagine what they would sound like on the road. I have a feeling that at first it would sound cool. Then 15 minutes later I'll have a headache. I'm glad I don't wheel in mud.
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Old 10-26-2012, 11:11 PM   #13
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I can't imagine what they would sound like on the road. I have a feeling that at first it would sound cool. Then 15 minutes later I'll have a headache. I'm glad I don't wheel in mud.
I don't even like the two MTRs I have now, I can't imagine those. lol. its insane how loud they are compared to duratracs.
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Old 10-27-2012, 12:11 AM   #14
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I don't even like the two MTRs I have now, I can't imagine those. lol. its insane how loud they are compared to duratracs.
I'm guessing your two MTR's weren't new? You know I like you man, but the pics I saw in a different thread... They looked pretty ragged. I'm sure the Duratracs are more street friendly, that's what they were designed for. I couldn't be happier with my newish MTR's, seeing how I've always run mud tires up until them. That being said, MTR's aren't mud tires. MTR stands for "Maximum Traction Reenforced", not Mud Terrain Radial like many believe. By nature (and redneck pride, lol) Mud tires are loud on the street and suck basically everywhere else. I've decided that now that my Jeep is my only real means of transportation (and trail buggy), and my 4-wheeler is my serious mud toy, that MTR's are perfect for my Jeep (no more flooding it and replacing all kinds of shit). True mud tires are going to have a huge void between lugs to help them clear out. That is going to make them suck on road (noise wise) and on rocks (traction wise) and wear out faster on road (common sense). If you want a serious mudder, it's not going to be a tire you want to run on the street at speed. If you want the best mudder you can run on the street, the TSL boggers damn near have the market cornered. Easily customized. If you want full-out mud and limp on pavement from trail to trail, start looking at AG tires. I wish I could help more, mud is a hobby of mine, just now left to the bike. Try to find a tire that looks like a Highlifter Outlaw or a Maxis Mudbug for a 4-wheeler, they were both copied from AG tires.
Oh, and about the directional comment above, traditionally they have more "bite" in reverse, so you can get out (at least what they advertise). In my experience that much is true, but they dig down like a bitch in mud, so it's only good for rocking back and forth if you're damn near stuck. After a couple tries, if you're not out...get the winch.
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Harry I agree with you completely. And I was just saying for a street rig the mtrs are a little better in mud than the at tread of the duratracs while still good at everything else. I am assuming he is keeping his rig on the street. My new mtrs have about the same tread as my duratracs do. Not bad for $37.50 per tire.
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Old 10-27-2012, 01:38 AM   #16
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Harry I agree with you completely. And I was just saying for a street rig the mtrs are a little better in mud than the at tread of the duratracs while still good at everything else. I am assuming he is keeping his rig on the street. My new mtrs have about the same tread as my duratracs do. Not bad for $37.50 per tire.
Looks like you got a good deal, why 2 and 2? Can't say I've ever run different tires, other than tearing one up. And I agree, trying to get a real mud tire street friendly is a contradictory task.
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Looks like you got a good deal, why 2 and 2? Can't say I've ever run different tires, other than tearing one up. And I agree, trying to get a real mud tire street friendly is a contradictory task.
Because I originally bought them as spares and the guy was selling just the two. And I don't see the point in spending more money when it doesn't make a difference whatsoever. If I can find another used duratrac ill go back to them. Alot of offroad only rigs run two different treads.
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Because I originally bought them as spares and the guy was selling just the two. And I don't see the point in spending more money when it doesn't make a difference whatsoever. If I can find another used duratrac ill go back to them. Alot of offroad only rigs run two different treads.
I understand. I was just trying to figure out why they were so loud on road. I got mine new and have kept them balanced and rotated, and they are by far the quietest tire I've had on my Jeep. Maybe they'll end up getting loud over time.
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Old 10-27-2012, 09:41 AM   #19
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I run the skinny Boggers, work great in the mud and snow. but not good on the road.
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Old 10-29-2012, 01:41 AM   #20
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Thanks guys. I know very little about TSL Boggers, I have only seen them on one truck (Bronco) down here and it seemed as if they are good in mud but when you need sideways grip (in mud) they were not good at all. But TSL Super Swampers have that tread in the middle to give that sideways grip? Do I understand correctly?
We don't see them much down here as very expensive? We see Simex Extreme centerpede tyres (note my Kiwi spelling) and Silverstone Extreme 117 with almost identical tread patterns to Super Swamper.
I believe the Silverstone is of a softer compound which I thought might be better on a light truck (Jeep) when deflated giving a longer contact area at same PSI and consequently greater traction. However if TSL bias tyres have a bigger void then different story in the mud?
What rim size would be best to match say TSL Super Swamper bias tyres 33x10.5x15 which I think will be best size for my Jeep? I am thinking 7" wide genuine Jeep alloys (which I can pick up reasonably cheap) or maybe Steel rims either with internal bead locks??
I want to do this right first time aye.
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Old 10-29-2012, 06:02 AM   #21
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Interco Super Swamper TSL Bogger is likely the best that is DOT Street Legal,They will be noisy & ride rough on the street,And your rim width question for a 33x10.50 tire I would want a 8" rim width.
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Old 10-29-2012, 09:06 AM   #22
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I'd say the nitto mud grappler. I have a set and they are easily the best mud tires I know of. Sure they're loud, but that just gives a sense of pride guarantee they'll get you through anything
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Old 10-30-2012, 01:20 AM   #23
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Guys, check this tyre out Silverstone - The science of full contact This is still the tyre I am most likely to go for 33x10.5x15.
I would love to hear opinions, pro's, con's and recomended rim size for this tyre with why. My gut feeling is with a narrower rim the tyre is more likely to get better grip and less likely to pop off the bead?
What do ya think?

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