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Old 02-17-2014, 01:07 PM   #1
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Wheel hop in deep snow

I am running 30" tall Wrangler Silent Armors on my bone stock TJ. We had a lot of snow out here and I was trying to get up my 900 foot long driveway, the snow was unplowed and about 26 inches deep. At several times when I was in the worst parts of it I got severe wheel hop. I did my best to limit the amount of hop by getting out of the gas when needed but that also made getting through the snow even tougher. I eventually made it.

Is a lot of wheel hop normal for a stock TJ trying to get through heavy, deep snow (nearly up to the top of the tires) on stock tires? Or do I have something worn out? It drives and handles just fine on the plowed roads. Thanks.

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Old 02-17-2014, 01:38 PM   #2
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Stock '06 I6. I had wheel hop a few times trying to climb my driveway during the worst of it when I was breaking through new snow as well. I just kept it in 4l and tried to keep the wheels from losing traction. I think its probably normal.

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Old 02-17-2014, 02:09 PM   #3
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Keith you use 4L rather than 4H in deep snow? I always thought 4H was best for deep snow, that was what I was using when I got the wheel hop.
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I bad wheel hob the other day too, it felt like i was losing my undercarrage too haha. I am running 35's, don't know whether we got a similar issue or whether this is a jeep thing? I was going up a hill offroad which has about 2 feet of untouched snow
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Welcome to a short wheelbase 4x4. Even long wheelbase vehicles will do it if the snow is deep enough.
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in deep snow you want it in high. You want the wheel speed as soon as your tires stop ods are your not going to get moving again. just keep the tires spining and turn the heel all the way back and forth, even if you are moving slghtly you are still moving forward, once you stop you got to start all over.
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Old 02-17-2014, 03:41 PM   #7
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^that's exactly what my experience was just a few hours ago. once the jeep stopped, I had to back up 50-100 feet and try again.....inertia was really important to getting through this deep snow, which was also covered with a 3" thick crust of re-melted ice/snow. bad stuff.

so wheel hop on a TJ is not indicative of broken/worn parts? that's good news.
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My driveway is at a 30 degree angle. In 4H the wheels just spun. In 4L with chains on the fronts the wheels spun. Only in 4L without chains did the wheels not spin, and was I able to successfully climb up into the garage. I dunno...?

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i'll try 4L next time, thanks.
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Had my first experience in a Jeep driving in 12-14" deep snow today. Only way I made it through was slow or idling in 1st/4LO; when wheels started hopping stop, back up a little, rinse, repeat. The key was to pack/stay on top as much as possible. The second I started to dig in I'd get stuck. Airing down the tires will help you float a little as well.
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Have had a bit of wheel hop in 1st 4HI in the untouched stuff. 4LO is useless from what I have experienced so far. The snows about a foot deep here with ice 3-4 inches from the bottom. Real nasty stuff.

I've pulled at least 10 vehicles in the past 3 days and 4LO is pretty hit or miss. I haven't put it in 4LO yet to get around so I would say keep it there and use your momentum. Works fine for me. In low range you have to shift too much and can't effectively use the engines torque band.

I've gotten more places in second gear, high range, with the motor lugging than in first gear with the wheels spinning. Just my 2 cents.
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Old 02-19-2014, 02:34 AM   #12
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^yeah that is why I did not use 4L, you cannot get good vehicle speed (momentum) in 4L.

we are having a relentless and brutal winter out here in CT with even more snow falling yesterday, I still have not plowed my driveway so I bet I get another chance at trying different techniques for deep snow driving.
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^excellent clip! that was some of the worst driving I have ever seen.
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^excellent clip! that was some of the worst driving I have ever seen.
I lived in Pittsburgh for some time before California so I feel your pain. I thought it was a pretty spectacular display in that clip of what so many on here echo. You can have all the machine you can buy but if you're not a driver it won't do you a lick of good.
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I have an older wk and it is a snow machine. Never a lick of trouble with driving in deep snow. I guess they did offer a couple of 4wd systems in the wk's. mine has the quadra drive II and has been very good. great clip. wow, just not worth getting so worked up over weather geez....can you say heart attack

I think in the same situation with my cherokee i would be driving all 4 corners. (not sure)
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^+1 on the WK with QDII, I also own one...but due to the stock Goodyear tires (and less ground clearance), which are really good street tires, my WK is not as good in deep snow as my wrangler, even though the WK has front and back ELSD's. If I slapped on a set of Duratracs on the WK it would be a monster snow killer I'm sure.

that guy with the WK2 in that clip was just too stupid to be driving in the snow.
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^+1 on the WK with QDII, I also own one...but due to the stock Goodyear tires (and less ground clearance), which are really good street tires, my WK is not as good in deep snow as my wrangler, even though the WK has front and back ELSD's. If I slapped on a set of Duratracs on the WK it would be a monster snow killer I'm sure. that guy with the WK2 in that clip was just too stupid to be driving in the snow.
What gave it away? When he got out of a moving vehicle and then was upset about it moving?? :-p

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