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Old 09-02-2012, 11:40 PM   #1
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Wheel spacers

I have a 97 wrangler with a 1 inch body lift, a 4 inch suspension lift, 33x12.5in tires, with 15x8in rims. Also 6in flares. I was wondering what size spacers I should buy to give it a more aggressive look. Thank you!

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Old 09-03-2012, 12:08 AM   #2
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Probably better to just get new wheels with less back spacing of course, but if you really want spacers I would say 1.5" SpiderTrax.

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Old 09-03-2012, 12:36 AM   #3
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I just bought 15x8 MT rims that's why I need spacers. Would 2" be too much?
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Old 09-03-2012, 01:22 AM   #4
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Don't get spacers to give it a "more aggressive look". That's STUPID. Save the "look" for your wardrobe or hairstyle. Wheel spacers are a bandaid...they put a HUGE amount of wear on your bearings, steering components, etc...because of the additional leverage they create.

Get wheels with the proper offset to clear other components--you will look smarter & enjoy driving it more than fixing it.
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Don't get spacers to give it a "more aggressive look". That's STUPID. Save the "look" for your wardrobe or hairstyle. Wheel spacers are a bandaid...they put a HUGE amount of wear on your bearings, steering components, etc...because of the additional leverage they create.

Get wheels with the proper offset to clear other components--you will look smarter & enjoy driving it more than fixing it.
Forgive me as I'm just getting to know the whole wheel spacer scenario. But if u have a rim that has an offset so the outside wall of ur tire sits 1.5" further out from factory or if u have factory rims and off set them 1.5" further out with a spacer, thus the distance from the outside wall of one tire to the other is the same in both set ups (using an offset rim in one set up or using wheel spacers in the other), how does using a wheel spacer create more wear on bearings, steering components, etc...?

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Old 09-03-2012, 06:37 AM   #6
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You lose a little strength/concentricity/perpendicularity with every spacer/adaptor.
Lesson your chance for error and bolt wheel to hub.
I have adaptors and I wouldn’t say I’m experiencing DEATH WOBBLE but the tires could use balancing or truer running adaptors.
But then you might not have a problem, I would try spacers if I already had the wheels, just saying……..
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Thanks guys
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Old 09-03-2012, 09:09 AM   #8
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Wait, you have MTs and still want them out further? Don't the 15x8s all have 3-5/16 backspacing? That is already out there pretty far. I have them and I think they are too far out for 12.5" tires.
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Old 09-03-2012, 09:12 AM   #9
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But if u have a rim that has an offset so the outside wall of ur tire sits 1.5" further out from factory or if u have factory rims and off set them 1.5" further out with a spacer, thus the distance from the outside wall of one tire to the other is the same in both set ups (using an offset rim in one set up or using wheel spacers in the other), how does using a wheel spacer create more wear on bearings, steering components, etc...?
It doesn't. There is no difference between the two as far as your suspension/ steering/ wheel bearings are concerned.
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It's cause I have 6in flares
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It's cause I have 6in flares
Then how do you like the look of flat flares and do you have a razor blade?

I think with the existing offset of those wheels and with the added wheel spacers you are going to put a lot of stress on your bearings and steering.
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Old 09-03-2012, 10:01 PM   #12
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Yeah I will probably just get smaller flares, I just bought my jeep last year and they came with brand new flares that's why I wasn't going to buy new ones. But if it will benefit my jeep without the wheel spacers then I'll just have to get smaller flares.
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Yeah I will probably just get smaller flares, I just bought my jeep last year and they came with brand new flares that's why I wasn't going to buy new ones. But if it will benefit my jeep without the wheel spacers then I'll just have to get smaller flares.
Bugger I wish we could swap , mine are 4inch wide, I need wider ones to cover my wheels.
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This is the MT classics with the stock flares and a 12.5" tire. Sticks out quite a bit.
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This is the MT classics with the stock flares and a 12.5" tire. Sticks out quite a bit.
Do the police hassle you. Those are not legal here and it only gives the cops a reason to pull you over.
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Wear on the wheel bearings and ball joints is a function of leverage, which is a function of backspacing--not the spacers themselves. The bearings, axle shafts, etc. don't know the difference between 4.5" BS wheels with 1" wheel spacers or 3.5" BS wheels. As long as the spacers are fastened properly and are concentric with the hub, there's absolutely no reason to dog on them. I'm all about doing things the correct way and I run wheel spacers for reasons beyond aesthetics.
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Do the police hassle you. Those are not legal here and it only gives the cops a reason to pull you over.
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Wear on the wheel bearings and ball joints is a function of leverage, which is a function of backspacing--not the spacers themselves. The bearings, axle shafts, etc. don't know the difference between 4.5" BS wheels with 1" wheel spacers or 3.5" BS wheels. As long as the spacers are fastened properly and are concentric with the hub, there's absolutely no reason to dog on them. I'm all about doing things the correct way and I run wheel spacers for reasons beyond aesthetics.
Correct, but the problem is the OP was intending to run a wheel that already had 3-5/16 BS and then add 2" spacers to effectively make the total BS 1-5/16".
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Correct, but the problem is the OP was intending to run a wheel that already had 3-5/16 BS and then add 2" spacers to effectively make the total BS 1-5/16".
That would be a big problem.

OP needs to understand the other factors affected, like steering axis inclination.
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This is the MT classics with the stock flares and a 12.5" tire. Sticks out quite a bit.
Are these the Mickey Thompson sidbiters?
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Are these the Mickey Thompson sidbiters?
No. Classics and Sidebiters are different wheels made by MT. The Sidebiters have 3-5/8 backspacing which is still very little and doesn't need any spacer to push them out further.
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Old 09-04-2012, 09:43 PM   #21
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Ok well I just bought this jeep a year ago and in total it had a 8in lift, for what reason idk, but anyways I just had the body lift lowered so now it only has a 4in lift in total, I just got it back today and the wheels do actually go out past the flares, you couldn't tell before because of the height of the jeep.
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T agree w/ IMPED above. No difference between spacers and equally offset wheels.
I run 1" spacers due to small offset on my favorite wheels. No problems

I also run 7" Rugged Ridge Flares to cover 12.5" tires and to allow max flex before rubbing. Many tell me I will tear them off on serious trails but have not yet!
They flex well and return to shape w/o ripping.
Pleased so far........
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I never get hassled with my full width 44s
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Not trying to hijack this thread but I'm not too familiar with backspacing. I have stock sport rims and I'm wondering if I added 1.5 to 2 inch spacers if it would cause any problems?
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Don't get spacers to give it a "more aggressive look". That's STUPID. Save the "look" for your wardrobe or hairstyle. Wheel spacers are a bandaid...they put a HUGE amount of wear on your bearings, steering components, etc...because of the additional leverage they create.

Get wheels with the proper offset to clear other components--you will look smarter & enjoy driving it more than fixing it.
#1 Its not "stupid".
#2 Wheel spacers are not a "bandaid".
#3 As stated above, there is no difference on bearings, steering components, etc between wheels with less backspace or spacers. Its the same thing.
#4 The "look" is not just for wardrobes and hairstyles. If that were true all jeeps would just be gray primer with steel wheels.

I run 32 x 11.5 on stock ravine wheels because I like them. I don't want different rims so I put the spacers on. If I were buying new rims I would look for some with the backspace I wanted so that I wouldn't have the need for spacers.

For anybody looking to add spacers, I personally would make sure I bought spacers that are both wheel and hub centric. And make sure you follow the instructions, torque them properly and check them with every rotation. I bought spidertrax and would buy them again if I needed spacers on another jeep.
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Not trying to hijack this thread but I'm not too familiar with backspacing. I have stock sport rims and I'm wondering if I added 1.5 to 2 inch spacers if it would cause any problems?
If you off road and disconnect your ront anti-sway bar, you may atart rubbing wheels on flares. (you don't list jeep specifics so hard to know.

Other than that, you would notice a more stable platform in turns and rough roads.
AND as stated, you will increase the wear and tear on wheel berings, ball joints, u-joints,etc.
How to measure backspacing........http://www.corvettepartsblog.com/wp-...pace-large.jpg

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