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Old 04-15-2012, 07:41 PM   #1
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When is it time to go JKU

So my TJ has 187k the rear pinion bearings are starting to wear bad the motor and trans/TC are still great and every-other thing works great, but just wondering what your guys thoughts were? I would like to keep her for a solid trail only rig, but that is not in the budget.. So with that said; I'd have to trade her in. When did you guys switch sides ? Or did you just keep upgrading stuff that broke to avoid a car payment ?

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Old 04-15-2012, 07:44 PM   #2
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I would say when ever you can afford it. If you can wait I would do it in Sept and get a 12 leftover.
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I would say when ever you can afford it. If you can wait I would do it in Sept and get a 12 leftover.
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Dude I didn't even think about that, I can wait till then. and my TJ is everything I ever dreamed of. But it just took 187,000 miles to get there ha ha thanks for the heads up.
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Ultimately your decision, but eventually our beloved TJs will go the way of the YJs and CJs. Still plenty of them out there and in good shape, but not all will survive. At 187K, I'd consider my TJ to have served me well, and I can only assume you do. I'm only @ 45K, so I have a lot to look forward to. Run the analysis, and convince yourself what makes sense for you. If you're at the point of diminishing returns, I agree with RedBones - wait for a leftover. I hear mixed reviews on the new engine. I read about it, haven't driven one, but priced one out online and was a little shocked at the price (much higher than I anticipated). Otherwise, can you find a similar TJ in good shape to purchase? Tough choice, for sure. I'm fortunate that my TJ/LJ is not my primary vehicle, but I feel for you.
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Ultimately your decision, but eventually our beloved TJs will go the way of the YJs and CJs. Still plenty of them out there and in good shape, but not all will survive. At 187K, I'd consider my TJ to have served me well, and I can only assume you do. I'm only @ 45K, so I have a lot to look forward to. Run the analysis, and convince yourself what makes sense for you. If you're at the point of diminishing returns, I agree with RedBones - wait for a leftover. I hear mixed reviews on the new engine. I read about it, haven't driven one, but priced one out online and was a little shocked at the price (much higher than I anticipated). Otherwise, can you find a similar TJ in good shape to purchase? Tough choice, for sure. I'm fortunate that my TJ/LJ is not my primary vehicle, but I feel for you.
I hear that, I think in my case the wife and I might decide to have kids in the next few years so that's why I'm leaning towards a JKU 4 door. She already knows I will not buy any other vehicle so she is very cool with the four door. I've read a lot on the eng's as well and I think I would rather have the newer 12 but if I have to I would go with 09-11 but it will most def be a Rubi so maybe a later year JK would be more cost effective.
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Old 04-15-2012, 08:20 PM   #6
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My guess is, now or this Fall, you will be raped by the dealer on your trade. You're much better off selling it yourself.

In any case, negotiate a purchase price on your new YJ BEFORE telling them you may have a trade. Otherwise, you'll never know what you paid for the new one or what you got for your TJ.

Worst of all are when people let the salesperson work the deal on a "what kind of payment do you want?" criteria. In that case, take plenty of KY with you.
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Old 04-15-2012, 08:24 PM   #7
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If you like tj's get another tj, the jk is an entirely different vehicle. Not like cj to yj or yj to tj - or even tj to xj. They aren't bad, I had one though, and didn't care for it.
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So my TJ has 187k the rear pinion bearings are starting to wear bad the motor and trans/TC are still great and every-other thing works great, but just wondering what your guys thoughts were? I would like to keep her for a solid trail only rig, but that is not in the budget.. So with that said; I'd have to trade her in. When did you guys switch sides ? Or did you just keep upgrading stuff that broke to avoid a car payment ?
So throw a set of bearings in it and move on! Worse case get another 35 complete for a couple hundie, swap out the axle and carry on!!
For me at least, a JK is not an option, I want a Jeep, not a minivan in disguise.... They can be built I suppose but I have no interest in them.
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Well do you want a loan at what?? 35-40k over 5-6 years or replace worn parts for way less than that?
I myself will hold onto my TJ to see if I can get the 400k miles out of it a few others here have touted.
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My initial reaction to the question about whether to get a JKU was based upon whether you have or will be having kids or basically want a truckbed. I've made up my mind that if I am ever in a position of needing a minivan/SUV type passanger/storage, it'll be a JKU.

Most of my dislikes of JKs are things I'd swap out or have been somewhat upgraded from older models. I find myself thinking about purchasing a JK. Partially to have a second vehicle for when another of these Georgia drivers hit me.

Considering that you don't think that you can have both, I would sell the TJ as opposed from trading it in. A great time to sell a Jeep is the spring, because of the convertable aspect. If you live in a warm climate, fall/winter may be a bad time to sell.
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Thanks for all the thoughts guys I would love to see her go to 400k, and I'm not sure if I am ready for the dark side ha ha but let me ask this; do you guys with older TJs find yourselves taking it a little more easy on the trails than you used to? Especially if it is your DD? Maybe it's just me getting a little older ha!
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I would like to keep her for a solid trail only rig, but that is not in the budget.
Wait, let me get this straight. You would like to keep the vehicle you currently own outright, but doing so may not be "in the budget" for you. Because of this, you are contemplating taking out a loan on a $30,000 vehicle instead. Did I get that right?

Why on Earth would you dump your TJ rather than simply convert it into the trail-only rig you would love to have and already own? The smart, obvious move is to keep it, then go buy the mall crawler/family hauler you are contemplating.

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do you guys with older TJs find yourselves taking it a little more easy on the trails than you used to?
Not remotely. I routinely tackle terrain which is slightly over my Jeep's capabilities--that's why I've invested in all the armor and skid plates. Of course, I also own four other vehicles besides my TJ... so even if I wad it up on the rocks, I will have no trouble making it to work the next morning.

There's a lesson to be learned here.
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Pump the breaks... All I asked was when would YOU decide to get a JKU at what point would be the end of the road for YOUR TJ ? As far as me getting rid of it I would sell it on my own or trade in; if I could get a good deal. I have no problem with paying a car payment and it would be fine in my budget but two toys would not be. Hence I would sell or trade. I just wanted to hear your thoughts that's all. I realize that my TJ is still a great jeep and wanted to hear your stories. I could just simply get the bearings done and keep on keeping on. That's all.
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Pump the breaks... All I asked was when would YOU decide to get a JKU at what point would be the end of the road for YOUR TJ ?
Probably about the time the JK is about depreciated out, then it might make sense for me to get one....so in like 2017, I might buy a 2007 JK that I can beat on (with the assumption they still have proven reliablility then).
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Probably about the time the JK is about depreciated out, then it might make sense for me to get one....so in like 2017, I might buy a 2007 JK that I can beat on (with the assumption they still have proven reliablility then).
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Thanks for all the thoughts guys I would love to see her go to 400k, and I'm not sure if I am ready for the dark side ha ha but let me ask this; do you guys with older TJs find yourselves taking it a little more easy on the trails than you used to? Especially if it is your DD? Maybe it's just me getting a little older ha!

Nope. 98 TJ 2.5L Last week, #4 piston.







About 800 bucks and she'll be back on the road with a new engine. Cant replace it for 800 bucks.
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Nope. 98 TJ 2.5L Last week, #4 piston.

About 800 bucks and she'll be back on the road with a new engine. Cant replace it for 800 bucks.
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Just skimmed through the other responses...

I have 2 TJs and an old CJ5. We just picked up an 08 JKU Sahara. As much as it kills me to say this, I really like it. We took it out on some Class VI roads this weekend. It did well. This is her Jeep, so she drove. She did great as well. It was the 2 of us, 3 kids, and a dog. Never thought that would be possible. LOL. I wouldn't be afraid of it.

I will say, if you can find a way to keep the TJ, do it. With soooo many parts available and "budget friendly", you could really build yourself a nice trail rig.
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All I asked was ... at what point would be the end of the road for YOUR TJ?
Oh, well in that case: never. You see, this is the 5th TJ I have owned. Every time in my life when I have thought I could live without a TJ and sold it, I soon regretted that decision. My wife has made me swear I will not sell my current TJ unless I already own its replacement... but I don't intend to ever do that. (The only reason I would dump it is to get one with an automatic transmission, and I think I'll just do the conversion instead.)

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I have no problem with paying a car payment and it would be fine in my budget but two toys would not be.
You've got to learn how to sell this proposition to the wife. The JKU would not be a "second" toy! It would simply be the family vehicle. Got it?

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I could just simply get the bearings done and keep on keeping on.
You already know this is how I feel. Of course, it is easy for me to feel this way. Part of the beauty of owning a fleet is that I don't put many miles on any one vehicle. Over the last 19 months, I have only put 5k miles on my '98 TJ; it only has 87k on it at this point. But even if the engine blew up tomorrow, I would just rebuild it and keep going.

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