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Old 03-22-2013, 07:14 PM   #1
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Which paint to use

I have to repaint my cowl because it has sun damage. My question is, what is the best paint to make sure it matches the rest of the Jeep?

The Jeep is black.

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Old 03-22-2013, 08:12 PM   #2
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Your Jeep is base coat clear coat, single stage paint WILL NOT match, also gone are the days of "Panel Painting". I suggest that you paint the whole front end and blend under the door openings. These paints also require a special nozzel on the gun which is smaller than the older guns. This paint has to be atomized more than the regular acrylic enamel paints. GOOD LUCK in your endeavor. You may be better off going to a local shop, unless you have some knowledge of the "newer" paints. STEVE

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Old 03-22-2013, 08:31 PM   #4
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Panel painting is alive and well. Try paint front PPG and with a little skill it'll match up just fine. Yes, it will need to be a base coat clear coat finish but you can match it up close enough that only a few will be able to notice. Go for it!
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Panel painting is alive and well. Try paint front PPG and with a little skill it'll match up just fine. Yes, it will need to be a base coat clear coat finish but you can match it up close enough that only a few will be able to notice. Go for it!
Good call on the PPG, i use it everyday. If your just gonna do the cowl i wouldnt think twice about putting single stage black on it. The concept line from PPG has a great urethane single stage. No reason to base clear it.
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Panel painting is alive and well. Try paint front PPG and with a little skill it'll match up just fine. Yes, it will need to be a base coat clear coat finish but you can match it up close enough that only a few will be able to notice. Go for it!
A lot depends on the color, right? Mine is Moss Green and the painted parts that never see the sun, like under the rollbar padding, look pretty much the same color. My hood and cowl is like OP's, really oxidized and rough. When the jeep is wet, you can't see the spots, but I don't know if that means only the clear coat is damaged or what.

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A lot depends on the color, right? Mine is Moss Green and the painted parts that never see the sun, like under the rollbar padding, look pretty much the same color. My hood and cowl is like OP's, really oxidized and rough. When the jeep is wet, you can't see the spots, but I don't know if that means only the clear coat is damaged or what.

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Metallics and pearls its almost a necessity that you base clear them, however any painter worth his salt could get a good enough match to pull off a butt match on that panel. I used to do it all the time, tinting was my speciality
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Stock paint on all Jeeps is manufactured by Sherwin Williams.. PPG is all fine and well, but you'll get a closer match using the same paint brand .. Just my uninformed opinion ..
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Stock paint on all Jeeps is manufactured by Sherwin Williams.. PPG is all fine and well, but you'll get a closer match using the same paint brand .. Just my uninformed opinion ..
Uhh i dont think that is correct, atleast when Iwas in the collision field. It was PPG. Nevertheless any good paint company will have a good match, " closer match" i beg to differ.
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I did this corner body and paint work with spray paint and clear coat from paint scratch . com. 30 bucks for the two an they are the bigger cans. Matched awesome. I'm not even good at body work. You can't tell now except I missed a small spot when wet sanding and left a line. Since you are painting a whole piece it should be a breeze to get it to match.

If you have a paint gun and resources to do a professional job yourself, do it. I was very impressed with how well the paint matched however. You just give then the vin and they make you a custom can.
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The hardest part will be blending in the new paint and clear with the older faded clear and paint. You should polish out an area and see how different the base paint will be compared to a new coat. You can fade/blend the paint to trick the eye or wet sand everything and recoat with clear to bring it back out. The sides will fade less than the hood because of sunlight but after all the paint is stock and several years old. PPG will be your best bet and no need to do base clear. I own a shop here and if you want a step by step just PM me. Also if you post pics of the damage we can proabably give you a better answer on how to fix it. Some time oxidation is only in the clear and can be fixed with a good wet sanding and reapplication of clear. Or you can check out some of the detailing shops and see if they do a glass coating with prep and can make even older paint look new.
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Also I use the newer line water based paint here because of laws and such (most of the time) and have no issues blending in even with older based paints and even metalics and pearls but if there is a high flake or candy base you in for a headache. Just takes time and practice. Been painting now for 30 years everything from cars and bikes to boats and planes.
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That would be....For The Win
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Olive drab in a rattle can f$$k the world
lol! Or " olive drab in a rattle can For The Win"

Whichever you prefer.
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lol! Or " olive drab in a rattle can For The Win"

Whichever you prefer.
Beggars cant be choosers!!!
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Yeah, I also thought I was on the last page on my phone, but apparently I'm late to the party.

I did some work for a door and hardware company out of Cheshire 4-5 years ago. Chill place.
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Yeah, I also thought I was on the last page on my phone, but apparently I'm late to the party.

I did some work for a door and hardware company out of Cheshire 4-5 years ago. Chill place.
Oh snap, did u just say "Cheshire"
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Oh snap, did u just say "Cheshire"
Isn't that where you is? I'm browsing on the phone again so I can't see your profile but I swear it said Cheshire Oregon.
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Isn't that where you is? I'm browsing on the phone again so I can't see your profile but I swear it said Cheshire Oregon.
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Wow there were many more responses than I expected! Looks like in the end I will likely take the jeep to a shop to get it repainted but that's out of the question right now. Looks like the cowl is getting plastidipped.
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Wow there were many more responses than I expected! Looks like in the end I will likely take the jeep to a shop to get it repainted but that's out of the question right now. Looks like the cowl is getting plastidipped.
Thats a great alternative. Maybe do your front grill aswell
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Thats a great alternative. Maybe do your front grill aswell
That's the plan. Cowl and front grill for now. Although I may go straight for bed liner on the grill.

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