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Old 11-23-2009, 07:53 PM   #1
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which Wrangler would you recommend??

I know this is a tough question, with lots of 'variables'. But, thought I would give it a shot. I have never owned a Wrangler, but am in the market for one now. I will use it as a daily driver, and for some light trail riding (nothing extreme yet). I do light construction on the side, and will need to pull a landscape/open trailer with materials from time to time. I would like to buy a used wrangler. Which models should I 'stay away from', or which ones would you recommend? Reliability and comfort are key for me. I appreciate your input.

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Old 11-23-2009, 07:55 PM   #2
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price range? and 4.0 is a must.
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Reliability = 4.0

Comfort = something else

Seriously, I don't know what you mean by comfort, but a Jeep is still a Jeep. The short wheelbase doesn't provide an ideal ride even w/ the stock suspension.

Based on what you're saying in your post along w/ some assumptions, I'd say you should look at a Sahara and be sure it's optioned well w/ cruise and tilt.
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Thanks for the suggestions...when I say comfort, I'm talking about AC/Tilt/maybe Nav, Sirius etc

Price Range=$15,000-$20,000

I see alot of 'X' models, but don't know much about the differences.

Rubicons look awesome, but they are much more expensive.
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Old 11-23-2009, 08:54 PM   #6
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If you're willing to spend 15-20k on a used Jeep....
I'd recommend buying a low mileage/later model stock Sahara, as they have a few more options inside and out.
Then with the extra dough...build the suspension to fit YOUR needs.
Buying something that someone has already built isn't the best way to go in my opinion, IF you have the money to build it the way you want it.

As said above,
Jeeps aren't the most comfortable vehicles.
At the same time...it's enough comfort for some.
Mine's never bothered me on 3-4 hour trips, but other may disagree.

As far as navigation....
buy a portable one man.
At least that can go with you in any vehicle your driving, right?
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If you need to tow something.. I would look at a TJ Unlimited 2dr.. I think they can tow upto 3500lbs with the tow pkg. Also it has a bit more room for tools in the back as its longer than the standard TJ. You could find a rubicon verison in your price range.. std 2dr's have been seen for 12k for early years. Auto or stick which ever you like is fine. Get AC, and look for full doors with nice roll up windows.. if you keep stuff in it a lot.. look for a hardtop.
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Old 11-23-2009, 09:17 PM   #8
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Yeah, and another vote against the Navi - vinyl soft top windows and expensive in dash electronics are a bad combo. At least you can put a TomTom or Garmin in a console and out of sight.
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Old 11-23-2009, 09:47 PM   #9
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I would recomend a Sahara or Rubicon stock. Nothing altered. Deff. a 4.0, If your looking for a little comfort get an auto. I'm 6'1" & am pretty comfy in my 00 sahara. The tilt wheel helps alot.
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like said before, buy it stock and then put the extra cash into it to fit your needs.
i personally have a 99 TJ sport, bought it stock, and am putting some grades into it. but a jeep will never be comfy, that's why it's a jeep. you'll definitely want that 4.0 though, especially if you're looking to tow.
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Old 11-24-2009, 10:55 AM   #11
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Definitely look into anything with a 4.0L. Here's the breakdown of models.
  • SE - base model 4 cyl. with very few frills
  • X -> base w/ 4.0L. and then most options as upgrade
  • Sport - 4.0-liter, 190-hp inline-6, fancy wheels and graphics
  • Rubicon - super-low range in the transfer case, 31-inch tires and locking Dana axles front and rear
  • Sahara - 4.0-liter six, air-conditioning, upgraded upholstery, CD player
  • Unlimited - longer wheelbase w/ Dana 44

Now don't get it wrong, the Sport and the X often come with air conditioning and similar packages as the Sahara, but it varies by vehicle. The Rubicon is the motherload, and difficult to find. The Unlimited is longer and has more towing power. The Dana 44 was an option on the X, Sport, and Sahara - so you may find a vehicle that has it. Go under the rear, look for a plug on the right side of the diff. and if it's metal, not rubber, then it's a Dana 44. If it's rubber, its a Dana 35 - which I don't really think is all that much a deal breaker.

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    • They're not a comfortable vehicle. I can do 4 hours in it with no problems. Many others can't.
    • Get a 4.0L, that's a necessity. You'll thank me later.
    • MAKE SURE TO GET A HARDTOP. If you're doing a lot of driving, a hardtop is a must on noise, theft, etc. Softtops are cheap. Buying a hardtop will run you $1000k new. Be smart and find one that comes with it.
    • Reliable? Look no further
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Good job burton160w.
I bought my X used and love it for what it is. However, for a daily driver and tow vehicle I couldn't recommend it. Good luck and have fun
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Old 11-24-2009, 11:13 AM   #13
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Good job burton160w.
I bought my X used and love it for what it is. However, for a daily driver and tow vehicle I couldn't recommend it. Good luck and have fun
I bought mine having driven my friend's SE a few times (what an upgrade for the engine ), and knew that what I was getting into was far different from my Cougar and Mustang. But I'm absolutely in love with it, and don't think it is really all that uncomfortable or dangerous as my sister swears.

Going with your price range, while I hate to drop this in the TJ forum, try looking for a used JK with low miles. You shouldn't have a difficult time finding a 200 7 for under $20k. If not, look of course for a later year TJ. The JK's engine, while a smaller displacement, has a higher torque and HP rating. Whatever you do, I can't recommend much more then I6/V6 and the hardtop. The Dana 44 is a bonus.
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Def. go with an unlimited if you want to tow.

as stated above 4.0L

I DD my jeep to work. I drive my other car most everywhere else, purely b/c the other car is more "fun". and gets much better mileage...its really about the fun though.
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Def. go with an unlimited if you want to tow.

as stated above 4.0L

I DD my jeep to work. I drive my other car most everywhere else, purely b/c the other car is more "fun". and gets much better mileage...its really about the fun though.
X2...I have an 05 Unlimited and LOVE it, Extra space, rides nice with longer wheel base and can tow more. Definitely an LJ
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Yeah, no doubt about the Unlimited. I forgot about that, which is kinda funny because I would love to have one myself.

Reliability - 4.0 - check
Comfort - longer wheelbase= more room and better ride - check
Towing - 4.0 + longer wheelbase - check

Good call. A well optioned LJ sounds like the OP's best option.
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Thanks again, everyone. This is a great way to 'boil' it down. I'm off hunting for the Unlimited, Hard Top, Automatic...

Thanks again, I'll let you know what I find.

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Thanks again, everyone. This is a great way to 'boil' it down. I'm off hunting for the Unlimited, Hard Top, Automatic...

Thanks again, I'll let you know what I find.

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Best of luck to you. If I had a "do over" I too would have bought an unlimited...but I got a good deal on the TJ so I bought it...I'll wait for another good deal and swap em out I'm sure.
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Thanks again, everyone. This is a great way to 'boil' it down. I'm off hunting for the Unlimited, Hard Top, Automatic...

Thanks again, I'll let you know what I find.

Matt

Maybe a LJ owner can chime in here, but my understanding is that there isn't much, if any, aftermarket support for the soft top. So, purchasing one would be expensive.

I'd guess that removing the hard top is probably heavy. (?)

Just some things to consider, because I consider an easily removeable top a must for a Jeep.

Good luck!!!
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Maybe a LJ owner can chime in here, but my understanding is that there isn't much, if any, aftermarket support for the soft top. So, purchasing one would be expensive.

I'd guess that removing the hard top is probably heavy. (?)

Just some things to consider, because I consider an easily removeable top a must for a Jeep.

Good luck!!!
I don't think any jeep tops are "easy" to remove.

But the cars I'm comparing it to are miata, s2k, z4, lotus elise
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I don't think any jeep tops are "easy" to remove.

But the cars I'm comparing it to are miata, s2k, z4, lotus elise
LOL, yeah, no push button. But I just mean that IMO, having a Jeep means having the flexibilty to change vehicle configurations on the fly. Just though maybe the OP should try to drive a LJ Soft top prior to deciding on the hard top.
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Come look at my unlimited.14,000 miles
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