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Old 04-22-2012, 03:00 PM   #1
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Ok my buddy asked me if I wanted to run over to 4wd hardware for third grand reopening sale.. I clearly said yes.

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So anyway, against my better judgement he picked up an XRC front bumper for his TJ. After spending an hour getting out a bolt he broke previously installing a power steering box skid plate we tried to install the new smittybuilt XRC bumper. I had to grab a die grinder to make 2 holes align..

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Old 04-22-2012, 03:11 PM   #2
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This is clearly a "love - hate" relationship

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Lol I have no love. I will however when my smittybuilt winch saves my butt but for now no love.

O.T. Smittybuilt winch installation instructions are lacking to say the least..
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Had the same fight when I installed my XRC-8... Check the electrical connectors carefully BEFORE installing the winch on the Jeep. I had loose connectors inside the control box, so the remote would not work. Their customer (dis)service wasn't any real help figuring that one out
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I hear people always having problems with their smittybilt stuff and I had smittybilt on my YJ and never had any problems with installing it. Hopefully my luck continues. haha
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Had some Tube Doors from Smittybuilt the first set we modified to make them work and they still didn't after repositioning the latch, drilling new holes, spacers, the list just goes on. 4 Wheel Parts exchanged the first set with another and they still didn't line up. Now I just go without doors period.
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I had no problems installing my front XRC bumper. The rear one on the other hand, was a bear. I never could get all the bolts in and no way they would ever line up for me. I took it to a shop for something else and asked if they could weld it. They got the bolts in for me. I just couldn't get the leverage. My front I actually had to take all the way off to get an XRC-10 winch that I found on CL on and then put the whole rig back on. I hope it lasts, cause I'm done.
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Old 04-22-2012, 04:47 PM   #8
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It's definitely a case of you get what you pay for. The bumper looks good on his tj and quality seamed decent just didn't "bolt on". Lol. Good thing he knew a guy with a machine shop.
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Some time I wonder if some of the problems with aftermarket stuff not fitting is the poor quality/quality control of Crysler. Yes, I own a Rubicon and it is still a Crysler POS.

BTW I have no problem with their drive line; but the rest is pretty much junk.

I get way off pavement a lot and every automotive part laying in the middle of no where is off a Dodge truck or Jeep.
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I get way off pavement a lot and every automotive part laying in the middle of no where is off a Dodge truck or Jeep.
Well if that's the case, ~~~ Then there should be NO WORRIES for you
if / when or should you Break something when your out Wheelin. Just look
around and pick up what it is your needing, no need to run to the Parts store. That SHOULD make for a good day.
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Well if that's the case, ~~~ Then there should be NO WORRIES for you
if / when or should you Break something when your out Wheelin. Just look
around and pick up what it is your needing, no need to run to the Parts store. That SHOULD make for a good day.
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Some time I wonder if some of the problems with aftermarket stuff not fitting is the poor quality/quality control of Crysler. Yes, I own a Rubicon and it is still a Crysler POS.
Not ruling that out either, his jeep was purchased used like mine so for all I know it was wrecked. Didn't think about that prior. Good point
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I get way off pavement a lot and every automotive part laying in the middle of no where is off a Dodge truck or Jeep.
That makes sense, at least for the Jeep parts. I hardly ever see anything on the tougher trails BUT Jeeps.
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my holes didnt line up either on my rear tire carrier from smittybilt what a nightmare to install drill drill drill cut drill thats all you ever do it seems like with this company
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Poison Spyder bumpers front and rear. All holes line up, no problem. Saved up and extra six months so I could go with something that would fit with out any modifications. Sometimes you get what you pay for.
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Well, my opinion is that if you have a Jeep and you are going to modify it (even bolt on), its a good idea to have some basic tools to modify/work metal. Grinder, dremel, mig welder, and a BFH are great tools to own... and pay for themselves quickly.
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Poison Spyder bumpers front and rear. All holes line up, no problem. Saved up and extra six months so I could go with something that would fit with out any modifications. Sometimes you get what you pay for.
Thing is, he has money just cheap.. Lol.

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Well, my opinion is that if you have a Jeep and you are going to modify it (even bolt on), its a good idea to have some basic tools to modify/work metal. Grinder, dremel, mig welder, and a BFH are great tools to own... and pay for themselves quickly.
That's why when he asked me to help I told him we were doing it at my machine shop. Everything I needed on hand.
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ran into the same bolt hole misalignment on my Rampage rear bumper...BFH and a BFPB took care of it.
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Old 04-24-2012, 04:59 AM   #18
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smittybuilt is junk. my grandfather who i admire more than anyone in this world says, BUY NICE OR BUY TWICE
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Old 04-24-2012, 05:24 AM   #19
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My XRC went on like love. It was the Bestop that gave me problems with hole alignment. Check out my write-up if you're interested.

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/xrc-...ew-122515.html
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Had a small issue with my roof rack.......their costomer service took care of the problem quickly and without any hassle.......I'll buy Smittybilt again
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Had a small issue with my roof rack.......their costomer service took care of the problem quickly and without any hassle.......I'll buy Smittybilt again
To be honest I probably will too. With the right tools and time you can make anything fit
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With better quality, it fits right without you having to make it fit. Not to mention good quality lasts a lot longer.
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With better quality, it fits right without you having to make it fit. Not to mention good quality lasts a lot longer.
Any isnt made in china! Lol.
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Some time I wonder if some of the problems with aftermarket stuff not fitting is the poor quality/quality control of Crysler. Yes, I own a Rubicon and it is still a Crysler POS.

BTW I have no problem with their drive line; but the rest is pretty much junk.

I get way off pavement a lot and every automotive part laying in the middle of no where is off a Dodge truck or Jeep.
I beg to differ,, I too, obviously own a rubicon.. This vehicle, by far and away is the very best vehicle I have ever owned.. The only Japanese jeep type vehicle I ever owned was a '76 FJ40. Back then, that FJ was superior to any American made jeep type product. That was then.. I have owned CJs, Plymouths, Fords, Datsuns, Toyotas, Peugeots, MBs, VWs , an Audi, and a Beemer.. I use my rubi for long range off road excursions, into Canada, and out west. This '04 rubi with 80k miles on it, once again, is by far and away the most reliable vehicle I have ever owned.. They do require regular maintenance, and quite often I replace things before they fail, belts, battery, brakes, tires, etc. this winter I plan on replacing the starter and the alternator, and maybe the water pump. so if you think your Chrysler Rubi, is junk, I suggest you give your junk to me, and go buy yourself a mall crawling ford exploder.. or maybe a defender, or a disco, those things spend more time in the shop than on the trail...
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With better quality, it fits right without you having to make it fit. Not to mention good quality lasts a lot longer.
Well said,,, back in 98 we spent big bucks on our roof rack,, I remove it every couple of years, clean it up, and paint it... It'll probably outlast the jeep!!
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WOW you guys have me wondering about smittybilt now everything I have bought from them has bolted rite on. shit I had more issues taking off the original part than the instal of the new lol. I guess I gave got lucky so far.
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I purchased the Sh$&@ybuilt rock sliders which fit (not great), but the paint/powder coat started coming off in a month b/c they were rusty prior to coating. Then one of the sliders got dropped and the tube dented. If the tubes were thick proper DOM (as advertised), then this damage would have not happened. I personally stay away from this manufacture at all cost.
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I have been running the front and rear XRC bumpers and tire swing for about 6 months and the XRC8 winch to go with it. The product seems tough enough, it does look good and i have pulled and been pulled out of some spots with no isses. My issues were the instructions were HORRIBLE!! The rear bumper was a pain in the ass to get the reinforcement plates on., once i got past it, things were fine.

The XRC8 winch is a pretty cheap winch but it works. the lever for putting it in gear seems to get rusty and stick at times...other then that its gotten me out of some jams...
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Smittybuilt must be the knock offs of Smittybilt. Haha. But the only problem I've had with smittybilt is the on the XRC rear bumper but that's only because the PO snapped the bolt going into the frame.
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In my opinion there is three types of vehicles, or mentalities to building or modifying a vehicle.

1..The vehicles that wear every piece of Smittybilt, Rugged Ridge, or other made in china parts. The parts are cheap and usually copies of other companies. For the vehicles owner it saved money and works for what they need.

2..The vehicles who have plenty of "bolt on" stuff but spend the money with fabrication shops who build stuff to be "used" on the trails. The stuff will take a literal beating because thats what it was built for. The quality and craftsmanship is top notch. (Gen-right, A-Z, Clayton, Poison Spider, BTF)

3.. Custom built rigs, most stuff was built by the owner or custom built by a shop for the owners specific needs or design.



I would love to buy a tire carrier someday. Right now I can't afford any of the ones I like. And I refuse to buy a cheap one from shittybuilt. I rather throw the tire in the back.

Edit...And I don't have a problem buying chinese, just as long as the company has some sort of decent following, which smitty does not anymore.

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