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Old 12-06-2006, 04:25 PM   #1
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Why tube fenders ?

I know this is a total noob question, but the answer isn't obvious to me, like say bigger tires or bead lockers....

Is it just a looks thing, or are there performance benefits to having fenders that don't cover the tire anymore ?


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First off, they are MUCH stronger than you factory fenders. You can hit them pretty hard with the trunk of a tree or a rock and they won't bend.

Second, you have much more room for your front tires to articulate. This allows you a little bit more suspension travel.

Third, they look awsome! And once you get them everyone else will want them too!


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First off, they are MUCH stronger than you factory fenders. You can hit them pretty hard with the trunk of a tree or a rock and they won't bend.

Second, you have much more room for your front tires to articulate. This allows you a little bit more suspension travel.

Third, they look awsome! And once you get them everyone else will want them too!


I'd like to buy an "R" Pat. First off, they are MUCH stronger than you(R) factory fenders.
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Some of us have to get tube fenders. I am stretching my front axle out 8" and the stock fender just gets in the way. I like the tube fender application for my setup cause it allows greater air flow. I will need all the help I can get to cool down a hopped up V8
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Old 12-06-2006, 08:38 PM   #5
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tube fenders look freakin sweet! plus i think there is more tire clearance.
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Old 12-06-2006, 09:10 PM   #6
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tube fenders look freakin sweet! plus i think there is more tire clearance.
not in every case. Dirk is running high clearance flat fenders on his. He cut the stock fender up and would actually lose clearance from the tube being so thick.

See the clearance?

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Old 12-07-2006, 08:28 AM   #7
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Then I'd like to know, what is the street "legal-ness" of tube fenders ? Are there any rules or laws regarding fender size or shape ?
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IMO, I wouldn't trust what anyone here says. You need to get on your DOT website for CA and see what it says then make your own assumption. "Some guy out in KS told me it was OK" doesn't cut it to a cop writing a ticket.

In KS, we don't have tire coverage laws strictly enforced.
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Gotcha, makes perfect sense, thanks. I know DOT laws here in CA can be kinda screwy sometimes.
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IMO, I wouldn't trust what anyone here says. You need to get on your DOT website for CA and see what it says then make your own assumption. "Some guy out in KS told me it was OK" doesn't cut it to a cop writing a ticket.

In KS, we don't have tire coverage laws strictly enforced.
Last time I drove from Wichita to Hutch, I was starting to think there weren't any cops in Kansas anymore .
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not when you are doing something nice and good. Break it for a second and you will find them. LOL!!
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Gotcha, makes perfect sense, thanks. I know DOT laws here in CA can be kinda screwy sometimes.
DOT laws have nothing to do with this, DOT does not approve fenders, let alone most of what is on our Jeeps.

In California, it's our rear tires they're concerned with and fenders have to cover them. But in the front, it's ok to have tube fenders.
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DOT laws have nothing to do with this, DOT does not approve fenders, let alone most of what is on our Jeeps.

In California, it's our rear tires they're concerned with and fenders have to cover them. But in the front, it's ok to have tube fenders.
I guess after your brought up that point I remembered what I was thinking of. Kansas has this website that discusses ever part of motor vehicle code.

http://www.kslegislature.org/legsrv-...ortal/index.do

Hopefully you can find something similar for CA. I've been searching for the automotive section and can't find it
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Had a buddy that got a "fix it" ticket for being lifted and not having mud flaps on his pickup. He cut mud flaps out of cardboard, painted them flat black, then took the truck down to the inspection area. Passed because the guy didnt' get out of his seat and just looked out the window to check. Buddy stopped a block from the station and ripped 'em off. No problems since.

Still, I don't want to be the one who gets the "fix-it" ticket.
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Had a buddy that got a "fix it" ticket for being lifted and not having mud flaps on his pickup. He cut mud flaps out of cardboard, painted them flat black, then took the truck down to the inspection area. Passed because the guy didnt' get out of his seat and just looked out the window to check. Buddy stopped a block from the station and ripped 'em off. No problems since.

Still, I don't want to be the one who gets the "fix-it" ticket.
wont they keep track of that, and the next time he gets pulled over write him a fined citation? i would think it would be easy to design a flap/fender to match up with the tube fenders with wing nuts so you can quickly pull them off once you hit the trail.
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DOT laws have nothing to do with this, DOT does not approve fenders, let alone most of what is on our Jeeps.

In California, it's our rear tires they're concerned with and fenders have to cover them. But in the front, it's ok to have tube fenders.
Hey, just noticed, I was born in Escondido. Palomar memorial hospital. We must be related.
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wont they keep track of that, and the next time he gets pulled over write him a fined citation? i would think it would be easy to design a flap/fender to match up with the tube fenders with wing nuts so you can quickly pull them off once you hit the trail.
The likelyhood of getting pulled over for the same thing 2 times in 10 years is really slim in the Los Angeles areas. Too many vehicles on the road, too few highway patrol officers. It would have to be a slow day (or night) for them to pull you over for a "fix-it" ticket type offense more often than that. Even then, not likely you would be in the same jurisdiction for them to have your past infraction on record. Just the way it goes here in So Cal, it's a crap shoot.
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I love the way they look(i guess they're strong too...or something like that)
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They are very strong, can be made with extended flares, and will stand up against hitting a rock, or tree. Plus the do give you much better clearance for your tires to articulate.

See; Poison Spyder.com
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Hey, just noticed, I was born in Escondido. Palomar memorial hospital. We must be related.
My office is right across the street from where you were born, I even get to see all the LifeFlight helicopters land right in front of me. I even got to spend the night there once. Small world heheh.
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ya the best tube fenders i have seen and would like to get are at www.poisonspydercustoms.com they have alot of awesome stuff there!
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They are very strong, can be made with extended flares, and will stand up against hitting a rock, or tree. Plus the do give you much better clearance for your tires to articulate.

See; Poison Spyder.com
Blu, I'm gonna have to disagree with you on this one. I really think they are weaker than having the stock fender on there. The only thing they bolt to in the front is the grill. So if you were to wedge those tube fenders against a rock you would probably bend your grill all to hell which will inevitably hose up your radiator probably by putting the fan thru it. Most of the jeeps that Spyder has on their site have some sort of bracing for the tube fenders that ties it back to the frame so this won't happen. I've seen it happen with Spyder Tube Fenders.
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No doubt tube fenders might be stonger but they look like shit. Sorry this is my opinion and im gonna have to go against the grain. They look nasty. I think the best looking cars are the ones that are sleepers. Have a mostly stock looking jeep but have it locked and beefed up where no one can see. Like i said more power to you if you got the money for silly stuff like that but i think your money could be used more wisely somewhere else.
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No doubt tube fenders might be stonger but they look like shit. Sorry this is my opinion and im gonna have to go against the grain. They look nasty. I think the best looking cars are the ones that are sleepers. Have a mostly stock looking jeep but have it locked and beefed up where no one can see. Like i said more power to you if you got the money for silly stuff like that but i think your money could be used more wisely somewhere else.
actually, when i first saw these things i didn't like them. but now i absolutely love them.
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No doubt tube fenders might be stonger but they look like shit. Sorry this is my opinion and im gonna have to go against the grain. They look nasty. I think the best looking cars are the ones that are sleepers. Have a mostly stock looking jeep but have it locked and beefed up where no one can see. Like i said more power to you if you got the money for silly stuff like that but i think your money could be used more wisely somewhere else.
If the reason that you are doing tube fenders on your Jeep is just for the looks, then you MAY have a point (pretty offensive to say it this way still...), but tube fenders offer more clearance for larger tires with LESS lift, keeping the center of gravity lower and closer to stock. If you were to take a stock Jeep on most of the trails that I run, you would have something that looked like it was in a major accident when it was done. The mods that help on the trails are visible, larger tires being one of the most important. What do you use your Jeep for, and what modifications would you reccommend for the rest of us, while you are handing out advice? I am sorry that we offended you by discussing our Jeeps, we will all just stand back and listen to your infinite wisdom. Thanks!
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No doubt tube fenders might be stonger but they look like shit. Sorry this is my opinion and im gonna have to go against the grain. They look nasty. I think the best looking cars are the ones that are sleepers. Have a mostly stock looking jeep but have it locked and beefed up where no one can see. Like i said more power to you if you got the money for silly stuff like that but i think your money could be used more wisely somewhere else.

Well this is what makes Jeeps what they are. There are endless amounts of modifications and accessories you can add to them. That's what makes them all unique just like their owners are.

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No doubt tube fenders might be stonger but they look like shit. Sorry this is my opinion and im gonna have to go against the grain. They look nasty. I think the best looking cars are the ones that are sleepers. Have a mostly stock looking jeep but have it locked and beefed up where no one can see. Like i said more power to you if you got the money for silly stuff like that but i think your money could be used more wisely somewhere else.

On second thought...last night I decided to take the high road with your post. Then this morning I read through some of your old posts. It sure seems like you are free and willing to throw the words "ugly" and "looks like shit" around. You might want to think twice about what you post before you post it. Someone in here might take offense to what your opinions are or how you state them.

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I must be mistaken when i posted my thread. I thought we were all adults here when i used the foul language. Sorry for that... If your going back to see what i had to say on earlier posts then you have to much time on your hands. You see when i was old enough to read, and i read the constitution, i believe the first ammendment says we have the freedom of speech. Or maybe im in the military for the wrong reasons! Anyway i said in my post that this was my (((opinion))) and i stick to it. Im sure they are strong as hell but are they practical. How much clearance do you really get??? Someone has to go against the grain to keep this forum interesting. Im not gonna be one of the guys on here that agrees with whatever the senior people say everytime. As for jeeperman i never said i knew everything and you dont offend me by talking about your jeeps so thats just silly.... I have seen plently of jeeps without tube fenders do quite a bit more than jeeps with them. So that would make them a waist of money in most instinces. If you think they help...its your money but you have to look at the practical side of things. If a new guy gets on here and asks about a topic such as this one and everyone jumps on the bandwagon and tells him its the only way to go, and he goes out and cuts up his jeep and dumps a load of cash is that fair to him. I think not. As far as looks go that is an opnionated topic! Sorry if i pissed anyone off but this is why we get together, correct me if im wrong.....
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Well I'm not going to get into a pissing match with you. All I'm saying is that someone might take offense to how you state your opinion. Sometimes it comes off a bit harsh . You're certainly entitled to your own opinion and that is what makes this forum and every other forum what it is.

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