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Old 09-06-2013, 11:32 PM   #1
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Will These Jeep Canyon Wheels Fit My 05 Unlimited?

Will these Jeep Canyon wheels fit my 05 Unlimited? The fitment calculator on the add said they would fit, but I don't know if it can be totally believed.
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I found the canyon rims on Collins brothers website and they said they're 5x4.5 which will fit on your or '05 TJ

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The Canyons are 15x8 with BS of 5.5" and offset +25mm, and were one of the wheel options for the optional 30" tire for the TJ.
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I found the canyon rims on Collins brothers website and they said they're 5x4.5 which will fit on your or '05 TJ
Thanks for the info. I went to the Collins Bros. site but could not find the wheels. will try again.
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Just curious why did you choose Canyon rims to put on your '05 LJ?
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Just curious why did you choose Canyon rims to put on your '05 LJ?
Good question. I have 2 reasons.

1. They are upgraded dedicated winter wheels only. I will use them with my 31/10.5/15 Nokian Hakkapeliitta Studded Snow Tires.

2. This 05 Unlimited is my 4th Jeep. My last moded 04 Unlimited was totaled last Christmas. I spent 6 months searching for a new 2 door (04,05,06) Unlimited. When I finally found this 05 it was a pristine totally stock, 25,000 mile Black Tie edition. I decided to just keep this pristine 05 totally stock. I looked for a winter set of my stock 04,5,6 Hollander wheels but all I found were way to pricy for winter wheels. I found these good condition Canyons at a good price and they say Jeep on them in keeping with my stock look.----What do you think?
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I live in Texas now and don't have to deal with the winter season but I still take my Jeep to the beach and worry about corrosion from the salt water. I had a 04 LJ with a atx Teflon coated rims best ribs I've ever had on a vehicle sprayed with water and dry with a rag. now I have an 06 LJ Rubicon. and I bought the same rims and put on that.
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I live in Texas now and don't have to deal with the winter season but I still take my Jeep to the beach and worry about corrosion from the salt water. I had a 04 LJ with a atx Teflon coated rims best ribs I've ever had on a vehicle sprayed with water and dry with a rag. now I have an 06 LJ Rubicon. and I bought the same rims and put on that.
Teflon coated sounds great but I don't want to spend a bunch for winter wheels. So if they fit, the price I am paying for the Canyons would work better for me.
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Thanks for the info. I went to the Collins Bros. site but could not find the wheels. will try again.

They can be a little tricky to find. They are there, and when I was in the area in July, they had good ones (not perfect - their words) for $40 each. If you're using them with bigger than stock tires, spacers would be a good idea.

Try searching their site for canyon wheels, or used Jeep wheels.

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The Canyons are 15x8 with BS of 5.5" and offset +25mm, and were one of the wheel options for the optional 30" tire for the TJ.
Hmmmm----The add says the Backspacing is 3.75 with an offset of -19. If the seller is correct is that possible?

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Size : 15x8
Bolt Pattern : 5x4.5" (5x114.3mm)
Center Bore : 71.5mm
Offset : ET-19mm
Backspacing 3.75
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Hmmmm----The add says the Backspacing is 3.75 with an offset of -19. If the seller is correct is that possible?

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Size : 15x8
Bolt Pattern : 5x4.5" (5x114.3mm)
Center Bore : 71.5mm
Offset : ET-19mm
Backspacing 3.75

Canyons are 15x8 with 5.5" of backspacing, which is why spacers are needed if you get bigger tires.
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Canyons are 15x8 with 5.5" of backspacing, which is why spacers are needed if you get bigger tires.
The Canyons came from the factory with 30x9.50R15s. Are spacers needed if he goes up to 31x10.50R15?
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I have 31x10.50R15 on the Canyon wheels that came on my jeep when I bought it. I don't have any problems without spacers, but I also came with a 2" Rubicon Express and 1" body lift.
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The Canyons came from the factory with 30x9.50R15s. Are spacers needed if he goes up to 31x10.50R15?
On my 04 Unlimited that was totaled before I bought this 05 I had 31x10.5x15 on stock Hollanders with the 5.5 backspacing and they worked fine even before I lifted the Jeep. But the seller ad said these Jeep Canyons are 3.75 backspacing. He must be wrong since everyone says the canyons are 5.5. if somehow they are 3.75 they would give me even more wheel turn?

I just hope they work well because they are in shipping right now.
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On my 04 Unlimited that was totaled before I bought this 05 I had 31x10.5x15 on stock Hollanders with the 5.5 backspacing and they worked fine even before I lifted the Jeep. But the seller ad said these Jeep Canyons are 3.75 backspacing. He must be wrong since everyone says the canyons are 5.5. if somehow they are 3.75 they would give me even more wheel turn?

I just hope they work well because they are in shipping right now.
Even if your 05 is a Rubicon with the wider fenders, I'd be concerned about the tires sticking out too far with a 3.75 BS, but that's just me - I like a bone stock Jeep. However, if these are factory Canyons, the BS is definitely 5.5. Could they be Jeep Canyon "style" wheels? There is a Chinese wheel co who is marketing their knockoffs with lookalikes with non-factory BS & offsets.
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Even if your 05 is a Rubicon with the wider fenders, I'd be concerned about the tires sticking out too far with a 3.75 BS, but that's just me - I like a bone stock Jeep. However, if these are factory Canyons, the BS is definitely 5.5. Could they be Jeep Canyon "style" wheels? There is a Chinese wheel co who is marketing their knockoffs with lookalikes with non-factory BS & offsets.
Like I mentioned earlier above this pristine 05 Unlimited Black Tie Edition was a great stock find and is going to remain bone stock with my Hollander stock summer wheels. These Jeep Canyons are an upgraded winter wheel only. They are for my Nokian Hakkapeliitta Studded snow/ice tire which are 31x10.5x15. I live at 7000 ft. in a Ski Resort and by law can only have studded on Nov. 1 through March. If they do stick out a bit it's just over the winter when the jeep is only used to get to town and shop.
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Like I mentioned earlier above this pristine 05 Unlimited Black Tie Edition was a great stock find and is going to remain bone stock with my Hollander stock summer wheels. These Jeep Canyons are an upgraded winter wheel only. They are for my Nokian Hakkapeliitta Studded snow/ice tire which are 31x10.5x15. I live at 7000 ft. in a Ski Resort and by law can only have studded on Nov. 1 through March. If they do stick out a bit it's just over the winter when the jeep is only used to get to town and shop.
I hope you'll let us know what the offset turns out to be. You were lucky to find a stock '05. I found a stock, non-offroaded '04 Rubi just a few weeks ago myself.
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I hope you'll let us know what the offset turns out to be. You were lucky to find a stock '05. I found a stock, non-offroaded '04 Rubi just a few weeks ago myself.
Here is a current picture. When I get the Canyons and studded tires mounted, I will post what the backspacing actually is and post a new picture.
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The stock '05 wheels pictured above are Ravines, 15x8, 5.5" bs.
I just sold my Ravines from my '05, a couple months ago.

TJ Canyons should be 15x8, 5.5" bs
ZJ Canyons should be 15x7, 5" bs
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The stock '05 wheels pictured above are Ravines, 15x8, 5.5" bs.
I just sold my Ravines from my '05, a couple months ago.

TJ Canyons should be 15x8, 5.5" bs
ZJ Canyons should be 15x7, 5" bs
I did some research and see you are right. BUT---when I started the search for my upgraded winter wheels I originally looked for the wheel I already have Ravine/Hollander or whatever. All over the internet on for sale ads these are referred to as 9050 Hollanders. Check out the link below & and then scroll down to the detailed wheel description.

Factory 15" Jeep Wrangler Wheel Rim ALY09050U55 | eBay

There must be some story on why the two names. Do you know?
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Here is a current picture. When I get the Canyons and studded tires mounted, I will post what the backspacing actually is and post a new picture.
Looks new like it was always garaged and never driven in the rain. A TJ buyer's dream. I prefer the looks of the Ravines over any other factory TJ wheel.
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The stock '05 wheels pictured above are Ravines, 15x8, 5.5" bs.
I just sold my Ravines from my '05, a couple months ago.

TJ Canyons should be 15x8, 5.5" bs
ZJ Canyons should be 15x7, 5" bs
Just bought 5 mint Ravines for my '04 Rubi so I can go to the load range C 31x10.5R15s in place of the stock Moabs with LT245/75R16s.
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I did some research and see you are right. BUT---when I started the search for my upgraded winter wheels I originally looked for the wheel I already have Ravine/Hollander or whatever. All over the internet on for sale ads these are referred to as 9050 Hollanders. Check out the link below & and then scroll down to the detailed wheel description.

Factory 15" Jeep Wrangler Wheel Rim ALY09050U55 | eBay

There must be some story on why the two names. Do you know?
In my copy of the 2006 Jeep Wrangler color sales brochure, Jeep calls them "15-inch Ravine Cast Aluminum" wheels.

Hollander is a catalog of all OEM wheels, as noted here:
OEM Wheels in the Hollander Book - OriginalWheels.com

The Jeep Ravine factory wheel will also have a Hollander catalog number... in this case, the number for Jeep Ravine wheels is 9050.
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In my copy of the 2006 Jeep Wrangler color sales brochure, Jeep calls them "15-inch Ravine Cast Aluminum" wheels.

Hollander is a catalog of all OEM wheels, as noted here:
OEM Wheels in the Hollander Book - OriginalWheels.com

The Jeep Ravine factory wheel will also have a Hollander catalog number... in this case, the number for Jeep Ravine wheels is 9050.
Well thank you Lynn. Great answer and it seems to be right on. now I understand.
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Well the wheels came today. They were not 3.75 backspace as advertised. They were 5.5 as everyone here said they would be. That's fine with me and the wheels are in good condition. Going to have them mounted to my Nikoian Haks tomorrow.
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I would leave the Ravines on and sell the canyons. I regret selling my Ravines for soft 8s. Now I can't locate a set for sale
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I would leave the Ravines on and sell the canyons. I regret selling my Ravines for soft 8s. Now I can't locate a set for sale
The Canyons right now are just a dedicated winter wheel for my studded snow tires and for local driving only. The Ravines are my regular Spring, Summer, Fall wheel with my AT tires on them.

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