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Old 12-31-2010, 09:08 AM   #1
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I have a winch mounted on a carrier that I move around various pickups from front to back as needed. The carrier fits into a standard 2" receiver. I want to use this setup on my jeep now. Does anyone use this set up and if so what front receiver bumper do you use? I am looking for ideas on the front bumper with a 2" receiver.

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There is no receiver hitch for the Wrangler I am aware of that has the strength to be used for offroad recovery purposes with a winch properly rated for a winch which would be 8,000 to 9,500 lbs. of winching capacity. Jeep size receiver hitches, and those up front that I am aware of, are typically rated for nothing bigger than a 3500 lb. load which simply isn't up to a winch that has a capacity of 8,000 to 9,500 lbs. of winching force.

I will never recommend a receiver mounted winch mount for offroad winching purposes that are typically far more strenuous than the typical on-road winch uses a receiver hitch mounted winch gets used for. I recommend you go with a standard winch mount that bolts to the frame through the upper front bumper mounting bolt holes.

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FYI, I found a hitch from Hidden Hitch rated for 9000 lb. winch.
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I wouldn't be afraid to use a hitch mounted winch, if you understand the limitations.
- No side pulls - only straight on
- Use a 5/8" Grade 8 bolt for the pin
- Don't drive with the winch installed...keep in the trunk. It would screw your approach angle pretty bad anyway.
- Installing it when you're already stuck will be pretty dirty and difficult.
- If you do push the limits of the setup, you will bend the hitch mount.

Is it ideal? Heck no. Will it work for most mild trail riding situations? Probably. But if you wheel smart, you probably shouldn't get a Jeep stuck in a mild trail riding situation anyway.

As for a front hitch - I got a bumper on Ebay from seller "knoblockbumpers". It would work for this kind of application:
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Old 01-06-2011, 08:38 AM   #5
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I use it on my pickup and love it. I only put the weight up front when needed which is 10% of the time for me. Also, you carry it in the back which is where you can better use the weight and have more chance of not getting it stolen. And, I can put the winch in rear receiver when I get better judgement and decide I should head back the way I came. I am surprised this isn't a more popular way to use a winch. Thanks for the info on the bumper.
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When I'm stuck bad enough to need a winch, the last thing I want to do is dig it out of the back and hook it up to the receiver and connect the wires before being able to use it. And that's assuming you can even get to the receiver and it's not burried in the mud you're trying to winch out of. That and I have no room to store a winch inside my TJ. The from bumper is a nice out-of-the-way place to keep it.
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FYI, I found a hitch from Hidden Hitch rated for 9000 lb. winch.
I'd like to see a receiver hitch rated for 9,000 lbs. that can be mounted, within reason, on a Wrangler TJ.
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I'd like to see a receiver hitch rated for 9,000 lbs. that can be mounted, within reason, on a Wrangler TJ.
What's the main difference between a normal winch plate and a hitch?

A hidden hitch is all 2x2x1/4" box steel, mounted with 3/8" angle plates.
A normal winch plate is flat 1/4" plate.
they both mount to same 4 bolt points in the frame.

Savvy used 1/4" aluminum to mount your winch. Based on material properties, that 6061-T6 plate actually slightly weaker than a steel 1/4" winch plate. It works fine though, doesn't it?

I see a difference in the leverage created by putting the winch mount so far out from the mounting point...but that has little impact on straight line pulls (no side loads).

and with the straight line pull, that 5/8" Grade 8 bolt you should use as a hitch pin won't shear until around 27,500 lbs. the winch line or the cradle will fail first.
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I'm satisfied with mine through personal experience on my 9000 pound superduty buried in the mud and pulled out numerous times.

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