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Old 02-20-2008, 02:41 PM   #1
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Wiper problem

I realize its a boring topic to ask about but my wipers stoped working the other day and its really starting to be a problem with all the snow. I was using them one night to push a large amount of snow off my windshield since I dont have a scraper. They worked for a few wipes and then stopped. But there was alot of snow built up under them so they couldnt fully rest at the end of their wipeing 'cycle'. I realized this afterwards. I suspect it burned out the fuse (at least Im hopeing so) and replacing that may fix it. But its too darn cold to go out and poke around to find which one it is. So can anyone tell me where that fuse is located? Under the hood or behind the glove box, and which one is it? Also, could some kind of linkage come unhooked that moved the blades when they couldnt move all the way down? The last thing I want this to be is a new wiper motor so Im just trying to do all the easy stuff first. Thanks for any help guys

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Old 02-20-2008, 04:55 PM   #2
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I think its behind the glove box, not sure though.... I know they come off to facilitate the folding down of the windshield, so maybe the snow and ice pryed them up enough to stop moving.... probably not, but its a worth looking at. Most likely a burnt motor though...had this same type of thing happen b4 on another vehicle

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Yeah on my TJ its behind the glove box.. I think its a 15 amp fuse. My wipers dont work when its too cold out.. Sort of like "they freeze" and they dont even seem like they are trying to move.

Simply slide the string that holds the glove box towards the passenger door and lower the glove box and go check.

For the rear wiper i know there is a timer. If it cannot push out the snow, it will stop working untill you turn on the rear defroster and once it shuts off, then your wiper will be able to work again. It freaked me out the first time as i was driving on a main road without a shoulder so i couldnt stop and there was some snow trapped behind the 3rd light so when i turned it on, it moved and stopped and could not push the snow off and i could not stop and help it out so when i finally got the chance to free it, it didnt want to work afterwards until i turned on the rear window defroster and waited until it turned off. It started working right away.
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Old 02-20-2008, 07:57 PM   #4
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In my months at firestone I saw this problem every time it would snow. If you still hear the motor working and the wipers are not wiping then I doubt the fuse is blown. sounds like a bent wiper linkage or a broken motor, not the hardest fix in the world but a pain in the a$$ and can cost some money to get the parts.
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Old 02-20-2008, 11:44 PM   #5
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Boul- Pinckney is out by Brighton/Howell area if you know where those are. Porbably 10 minutes from there. We should do some wheelin sometime. Theres a big trip at the end of August if you want to go. Its kinda far, out in Harlan, KY, but I have a few buddys goin from here. So if you want to caravan with us, its about an 8 hour ride there. We are goin for a long weekend. But you can read about that in the trail ride section.

Now, the reason I suspect the fuse is because when I turn the wipers on I dont hear the motor. Thats the first thing I did after they stoped workign and it wasnt negative outside. I know where the fuses are behind the glove box but I just didnt want to get under there and search around for it in this freezing cold. I may have to though. Cross my fingers and hope its that because otherwise I canpretty much bet on it being a burnt up motor. It doesnt seem like it would go out though because it was workign fine for a while that night before it stopped.
p.s. I dont even have a rear wiper so Im not worried about that. I figure i dont need to see whats behind me so much as whats in front of me, haha
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For my front wipers, when mine stopped working one of those mournings, it did not want to run at all, i did not hear the motor move nor the wiper blades even try to push, i checked the fuses but they were perfectly fine. In the summer i'll look at grounds or something but i have no idea where to look. Do you have a garage? If yes, throw it in there for a night and give it another shot. You might get lucky.

About 15-20 minutes into my trip they magically started working.
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I wish I had a garage! I do back home but thats a drive and I have class. So I may be able to get to it this weekend becasue Im supposed to go home. God help me if it starts to snow/rain on my way back though!
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I wish I had a garage! I do back home but thats a drive and I have class. So I may be able to get to it this weekend becasue Im supposed to go home. God help me if it starts to snow/rain on my way back though!
Hmmm. I never thought about that. I think I'm going to UNR next year( it snows in reno for those unfamiliar with Nevada) and my poor garaged Jeep will be cold out in the open
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Old 02-21-2008, 05:48 AM   #9
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I pull my wipers away on the TJ's and leave them sticking out when it's going to snow. I wish the XJ and ZJ wipers would do the same thing, makes cleaning the snow and ice off easier. Once I warms up a some I'm going to swap the TJ arms onto the XJ and see if they work, are long enough and will fit the splines. I know they won't work on the ZJ as those arms are kind of under the cowl/hood interface area. The wife stripped the gears on the rear wiper on the XJ one year when the bike rack was not put on in the exact right spot, my fault, but that was a $#$#@ $200 repair and I did the work.
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I have a wiper motor off my '05 TJ if you see that the motor is bad!
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Old 02-21-2008, 03:34 PM   #11
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yeah, i know where that is, my mom lives in howell. End of august, huh? That might work. I go down to KY every once in a while to go rock climbing, maybe I can swing it. Nice drive down there.

How is the wiper problem? Fixed yet?
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Old 02-21-2008, 03:45 PM   #12
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Rain-X and wax your window. I did that and I hardly have to use my wipers in the rain. Then again, it has only rained here about 4 times in the past 4 months.

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I wish I had a garage! I do back home but thats a drive and I have class. So I may be able to get to it this weekend becasue Im supposed to go home. God help me if it starts to snow/rain on my way back though!
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Sweet deal! It was onyl the 20a fuse...quick fix. The Jeep gods where smiling down on me. Even had a spare in hand! Guess im sorta retarded because I didnt realize that with that fuse block behind the glovebox there is also a little guide to tell you what all the fuses go to. That made me love my Jeep so much more. It turned a potential hour long job into a 2 minute fix. Thanks for the help guys. Im not gonna try to push 10lbs. of snow off my windshield anymore, deff. gonna just clean it off with something.
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Sweet deal! It was onyl the 20a fuse...quick fix. The Jeep gods where smiling down on me. Even had a spare in hand! Guess im sorta retarded because I didnt realize that with that fuse block behind the glovebox there is also a little guide to tell you what all the fuses go to. That made me love my Jeep so much more. It turned a potential hour long job into a 2 minute fix. Thanks for the help guys. Im not gonna try to push 10lbs. of snow off my windshield anymore, deff. gonna just clean it off with something.
Try a scraper!!!!
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yo i'm glad you fixed it man Now back to the trip if you dont mind. whats up with it? I might be up for it. just need some more info on it.
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Get some stuff from Walmart, you put it on BEFORE it ices over and it stops ice building up on the windshield, works great as a de-icer too. Cant remember what its called but its kinda golden color and its from Walmart
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is it liquid that you spray the windshield or what?
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Old 02-22-2008, 11:59 AM   #18
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I know what your talkin about.
Hey trip, check out our post in the trail ride section. Everything you need to know is there!
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Hey Trip, I have the same issues with my wipers on cold mornings. They move like molasses on high, and don't even run at low. As the car warms up, they move faster. Maybe the windings are going on the motor.

Grn and Boulder - good to see some MI folks on here. I moved from Howell down to Saline a couple of years ago. There were some nice trails around Brighton to run. I haven't found much down this way tho'
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No idea i have the same problem. Mine move very slow when cold. When they warm up they move faster. Over the summer i'll check it out and see if i can oil something in there.

Thanks Grn, i'll go and check it out.
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Hey guys...first post here so be kind. I didn't want to clutter the forum with a new thread, so I'm digging this one up.
I've got a 98 Sport, and I'm hoping but suspect it's the wiper motor that died this morning. It's pretty cold, so I'm hoping maybe that could be the problem. Here's the symptoms:
Since I got the Jeep the intermittant has never really worked...seems to take HOURS between swipes. Low worked ok up until last week. Suddenly it seemed like the wipers were laboring to make it across the windshield. Then it just stopped (sometimes in the middle of the windshield)-so only High worked. Up untill this morning...

So I'm thinking it's probably the motor dying a slow painful death... About how much do you think that will run me? I hate to have something so lame as the wipe motor be the first purchase I put into the Jeep!
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i just looked at autozone.com, there they run about 70-120 bucks with a $30 core. If you shop around, i'm sure you could find one cheaper.
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i dont know whats up with the stock motors... i'd imagine it would either work or it wont.. not slow down like mine does once in a while.
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Yeah mine does not work in high.
and if it works it move to slow.
I umplugged the wiper motor and then with my tester I chek it to see if it was a bad conection, but it was reciving power so I thing the motor its burned.
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My front windshield wipers just stopped working. After checking all of the fuses, and checking the wires, I have no power beneath the steering column on the two wires (brown & white, brown & orange)... I have not opened up the front windshield wiper motor area, but was wondering... If the motor is defective, would that stop the current in the wires beneath the steering column? Also, is there a way of checking the motor on the front windshield wiper? I guess what I want is to know if it is an electrical or mechanical problem. Thanks so much...

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Did you check the relay on the steering colum? You have to take a covers off the colum to get to it and its on top right by the ignition switch. Also the connector right next to it sometimes comes loose and will cause this.
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If the motor is bad you should have power going to it.
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Yeah on my TJ its behind the glove box.. I think its a 15 amp fuse. My wipers dont work when its too cold out.. Sort of like "they freeze" and they dont even seem like they are trying to move.
Bump an old thread, I'm having this same problem in the cold weather. The wipers refuse to move in the cold. Then as it warms up they will move very slowly, now that it's above freezing they work fine. It's not the fuse. Could it be a problem with the motor? Thoughts?
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Figured it out myself this past weekend. The wiper motor, underneath the cowl, was rusted and dying. It looks like the stock motor was wrapped in a vinyl cover, which actually appears to have made the rust problem worse by trapping moisture and water in contact to the motor.

Removing the cowl was fairly easy, just a few screws. The hood does not have to be removed to remove the cowl.
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Dont know if this helps but they usually can be taken apart and cleaned with a Dremel tool brush and seem as good as new. I have done this on several vehicles in the past and that is usually all they need if they have power going to the motor. The armature tends to get rusted up and the magnets cant get through to make it turn like it should. Just dis-assemble (you will have to remove the motor either way if your replacing it or repairing it) and clean the center section that comes out with a small wire wheel and dremel tool. Be careful not to damage any of the insulation or dielectric on it. Put i back together plug the harness back in and try it before you put it back together. Worked for mine. Make sure you not the position of the linkage to your wipers before you take everything apart or you will be doing it again to make your wipers start and stop from the proper place.

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