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Old 09-14-2011, 10:59 AM   #1
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Wont start... No noise

Jeep won't start...drove and started up fine all day then sat for an hour and won't start...truck gets electric so not the obvious dead bat but starter is not making a single sound. Ideas?

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Old 09-14-2011, 11:02 AM   #2
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Bad starter relay/silanoid (sorry bad spelling)

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Old 09-14-2011, 03:51 PM   #3
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im going to pull the starter and get it checked tonight but i havent had any problems starting before "no rough starts" i was wondering other than starter what could it be
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Hard to say, fuse? Maybe a bad connection or bad ignition. You don't need rough starts or signs for a starter to go out. Can be fine one turn of the key and dead the next. From what you described your starter should be the first thing to take into consideration. My opnion anyway...
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Old 09-14-2011, 05:32 PM   #5
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will try to replace the fuse..."$12 compared to the $185 for a reconditioned starter" if that doesnt work im going to drop the starter saturday
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Jeep won't start...drove and started up fine all day then sat for an hour and won't start...truck gets electric so not the obvious dead bat but starter is not making a single sound. Ideas?
Baal,

FWIW earlier this year, I had the same symptoms that you described. It turns out that my ignition actuator was broken. The actuator is a linkage between the ignition (key) cylinder and the starter switch, and it is located in your steering column.

If you've run down the grounds and ruled out a bad ground, before you go throwing parts at your heep open your steering column and check the end of the actuator where it fits into the starter switch. You may find that a tiny piece broke off the end of your actuator.

BTW, if that is the problem and Chrysler knows this is a common issue, they do not actually stock the replacement part. Chrysler will however, sell you an entire steering column which is back ordered overseas until H*LL freezes over or the Second Coming (which ever comes first) from their Korean supplier...
Actuator, $86.50: HSG04s Ignition Switch Inner Shaft | Steering Column Services I'll bet you can get it for less if you shop around. Had I known where to look, I could have probably gotten the parts from a local pick-n-pull for a lot less than the $250 I got charged at a shop for a used steering column (not including labor) before I knew better.

YMMV, and invariably will.
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Old 09-14-2011, 06:21 PM   #7
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let us pray it is something awhole lot simplier....im stuck on a damn island and they tend to charge an arm and a leg for parts....hoping for starter but i greatly appreciate all the info from everyone, will update when i know something
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Are you hearing the fuel pump when you turn the key? It should be just a click.
Now before you start throwing money at it start with the cheapest first. Even though you have enough battery to power headlights, dashlights and guages, you may not have enough to actually start your Jeep. I know from experience about this. I drove my Jeep to the river got out for 10 minutes. When I got back in and turned the key...Nothing. Lights worked, guages worked just no power to the starter. Before you pull the starter, have the battery checked. Disconnect the cables and clean the connectors and the terminals with a wire brush to make sure that you have removed ALL corrossion. Even the smallest amount can cause this kind of failure. When you replace them, make sure that they are tight enough that you cannot move them at all with your hands. If you have another battery that you know to be good, try swapping them out just to test.
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i got the jeep push started and once it was started it ran fine....got it home parked it and tried to start it back up and still nothing, having a friend help out tonight so i can be outside the jeep while he tries to start it so i will be able to here everything a little better....will take the battery to oriellys tonight
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Remove both battery connections, wire brush them, and reconnect them tightly. They should be so tight that you cannot rotate the connectors around the battery post with your hand.

If you cannot get them tight enough so they cannot be moved by hand, post up and I'll give you a quick fix so they can be tightened to where they should be again.

Problems like this are usually battery or battery connection-related... even if the battery connections look ok. A visual inspection will not tell you if the connections are good, you physically have to remove, clean, and retighten then.
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Old 09-15-2011, 02:26 AM   #11
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Came home from work and found out it was the linkage for the actual clutch pedal was coming apart....did what I could with the rigging for now and it started right up
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Came home from work and found out it was the linkage for the actual clutch pedal was coming apart....did what I could with the rigging for now and it started right up
Nice. Never thought about checking the clutch. Good find
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Insert a 10 amp fuse into the clutch interlock switch bypass slot, that will disable the clutch interlock switch and allow the engine to be started regardless of the clutch pedal position. The fuse slot location varies by model year TJ but slot 10 (behind the glove box) is a common location. Your owners manual will verify the location.
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I will look into disabling it but tomorrow I gotta buy the self locking bushing to connect the pushrod that actually comes thru the firewall to the pedal and everything should be fine
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I just had this same problem with my 02 TJ - went through everything you guys posted on here and figured out if was the ignition actuator in the steering column. I was able to find the part at NAPA (part number 6201414). $40 and a little work to install, but it's working fine now. Thanks for all the posts - they helped me out for sure.
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Mine was the exact same way. Found out my under the hood light somehow got unattached from the bracket on the underside of the hood and was resting on the wires leading to the battery, hence draining my battery within an hour. Unhooked the light completely and no problems . Plus it was a free unistall

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