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Old 09-04-2008, 02:00 AM   #1
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Would this work to fit 33's temporarily?

I had big plans to buy a nice lift and some nice tires, but some stuff came up and now I have to do this on an extreme budget until I can upgrade.

I am buying some 33x12.5x17 BFG AT's (Stock from a Hummer) with 2/3 tread left for $200 from my uncle. I'm then going to his friends tire shop and getting some cheap wheels and a 2" body lift. Would this work as a temporary set up, with little or no offroading being done during this time? I would only have it like this for a couple months until I can afford to add the new Rough Country 2.5" spring suspension lift and then new tires/wheels later on down the road.

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How much is the 2" BL going to run you? Even doing it on the cheap I'd try to go with a 2" spring spacer before I went to that kind of body lift. This combo is best with a 1" body lift, but if funds are tight then the spacers will get you by.

With 12.50 wide tires make sure that you get some wheels with around 3.75 to 4 inches of backspacing.

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I hate to see you spend money twice on tires and rims or anything really. Granted 200 is a great deal. Not sure how much the rims will be, but I will guess, min $50 a rim for 17's, so another 200, thus about 400 total, is that close? I guess the questions I have is, since this is only a temp solution, and money is tight right now, perhaps it would be better to wait, save the money and put it towards what you really want? Lets say things are not better in a few months and you have to live with these changes for a year or more, would you be okay with it?
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I totaly agree with 4Jeepn. If this is about the $200 tires, just buy those and hang onto them 'till you can afford other parts.
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Old 09-04-2008, 10:06 PM   #5
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What about a 3" TJ body lift for now ($89) and a 2.5" Rough Country progressive coil kit later?
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What about a 3" TJ body lift for now ($89) and a 2.5" Rough Country progressive coil kit later?
Umm I wouldn't go that high on a body lift. One inch is good and possibly two inches at the most. Once you start getting too crazy with body lifts the whole Jeep starts looking too crazy and way too noticeable.

What's wrong with doing a spring spacer lift like mentioned above? That's the easiest and probably the least expensive way to get a little bit of lift for now. That being said, if you're dead set on getting a body lift then add a one inch body lift and a two inch spring spacer lift and you can easily run the 33's.
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I was planning on doing just 2" body lift but the 3" is less expensive for some reason.
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2" body lift is ugly and 3" is rediculous. like previously stated, coil spacers are a way better way to go if you wanna do it cheap temporarily. most people that put a 2 or 3 inch body lift aren't as happy as they thought they'd be, some will even admit it.

there's a big gaudy gap between the body and frame. try to take a good look in person at some jeeps with those kind of body lifts on them, make sure you're ok with how it looks.
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Old 09-05-2008, 12:32 AM   #9
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But coil spacers and that rough country 2.5" coil lift aren't stackable, are they?
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Has anybody seen this? Using ZJ/Crown Victoria springs to make their own lift? I have an uncle who loves DIY and custom fabbing stuff, maybe this might make a good project for us.

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But coil spacers and that rough country 2.5" coil lift aren't stackable, are they?
Yes you can stack lift springs under spacers. You are just going to have to do the "right" things for a 4.5" lift in the future to have it drive and perform like you want it to.

I currently run 1.75" spacers on top of 5" springs in the front of my TJ and it works fine. I don't have to run them in the rear because I have moved the coil buckets back to stretch the wheelbase and only need 3" springs back there.
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Old 09-05-2008, 02:28 AM   #12
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After reading this thread:
results of the ZJ lift (on the tj) are in - JeepForum.com
I have decided that's what I will do first and then add a 1" body lift later on down the road. As far as shocks go, what's going to get me the most bang for my buck? Has anybody ever heard of a company called Black Diamond?
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Yeah Black Diamond isn't bad. I believe it's made by Superlift. Have you looked into OME? Good luck with your project, sorry about the action/s that caused you to put your lift on hold.
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3" Body Lift with 33x12.50 BGF's. And its fine, so you shouldn't have a problem.
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3" Body Lift with 33x12.50 BGF's. And its fine, so you shouldn't have a problem.
What is so horrible looking about that? Do you have any more pictures?
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the view from the side is not as nice...you see the space created....3 inches puts your vehicle at greater risk for damage in an accident. I totaled a 96 Bronco with 3" body lift...3 pucks broke on impact causing more damage than would have been without body lift. It also allowed the body to shift a great deal vs. the frame. It was a frontal collision and the rear bumper moved more than 2 inches due to body lift. 1 inch is fine but would never do 2 or more....it is cheap for a reason
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I had no spring lift, 1.25 BL for about 2 months with 33X12.50's and had no probs. I also had my flares cut and only drove it on the highway. With the new lift, I have plenty of clearance and the lift cost $500 without shocks (I already had longer shocks)
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What is so horrible looking about that? Do you have any more pictures?
ya, like juspimpin said. no one with a big body lift ever shows pictures directly from the side at body level, or straight on the back, cuz the big gaps don't really look so good.

to each their own, you don't have to agree with me. but i almost did a big body lift when i first got into jeeps, man am i glad i didn't.

like i said at the beginning of this thread, try to see one in person.
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ya, like juspimpin said. no one with a big body lift ever shows pictures directly from the side at body level, or straight on the back, cuz the big gaps don't really look so good.

to each their own, you don't have to agree with me. but i almost did a big body lift when i first got into jeeps, man am i glad i didn't.

like i said at the beginning of this thread, try to see one in person.
I wasn't disagreeing. Keep in mind I know nothing about this stuff. I mainly want to do the ZJ/CV coils though. Does anybody have any information about this? I've seen people take the front TJ coils and put them in the back and only use ZJ coils in the front, and I've seen people use ZJ's up front and Crown Vic (Police Interceptors) in the back. Does anybody know what would get me a bigger lift?
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the view from the side is not as nice...you see the space created....3 inches puts your vehicle at greater risk for damage in an accident. I totaled a 96 Bronco with 3" body lift...3 pucks broke on impact causing more damage than would have been without body lift. It also allowed the body to shift a great deal vs. the frame. It was a frontal collision and the rear bumper moved more than 2 inches due to body lift. 1 inch is fine but would never do 2 or more....it is cheap for a reason


I bought the jeep with the body lift. I know that it isn't reliable, and all of the other things. but I do think it looks good, so until I am in the position to put a suspension lift on it, I just have to leave it how it is. IMO it looks good the way it is..
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Please listen to 4Jeepn; he is wise.. Don't spend the money twice my friend! Do it right the first time.
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Suspension lifts are the way to go, especially if you need new shocks and springs anyway.

I would honestly never put a 3 in body lift on anything ever for any reason, not even if it was only used for mud bogging and I didn't care what it looked like, I would rather cut the fenders than put a big body lift on. Coil spring spacers with new shocks are fine, there cheap, you get new shocks great way to get 1.75 inches of lift for next to nothing. IMO if you don't have $500 for a lift then you shouldn't bother messing with it. When you work on anything, expect to find another problem that your going to have to throw money at to fix.

Save up the money, buy a cheap 3-4 inch lift, it will be better in every way. When you try and sell it with poorly done mods you will not get the money your looking for.
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I agree, you should just hold off and wait until you get the funds to do it right, otherwise you are throwing money out the window, for something half a$%. Or just drop that rig down and put some Dubs on it........
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Please listen to 4Jeepn; he is wise.. Don't spend the money twice my friend! Do it right the first time.
too true, just pay for it once. Patience and self control my friend! the money will come. It is not easy waiting, i know.
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I agree, you should just hold off and wait until you get the funds to do it right, otherwise you are throwing money out the window, for something half a$%. Or just drop that rig down and put some Dubs on it........
that is just blasphemy!
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buy the tires thats a good deal... save money and do the suspension lift... dont waste time and money doing the pucks.. the installation on the puck lift is even more money wasted.. your jeeps a project so it doesnt all have to be done at once.. slowly buy all the parts and ur jeeps gonna be sweet when ur ready to install the lift..
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check out rustysoffroad.com they got 2'' coils for like 90 bucks a pair
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Didn't have the patience to read the full thread so far, but figured I'd chime in....been running 33 x 12.5's on black steelies for over a year now with just a 2" BB from RE. I have plans to install a BL eventually, but just the 2" BB with the 33 x 12.5's is fine. Mostly a daily driver, but have also done some light and medium trails, creeks, beaches, mud, etc. Only complaint is that there is MINIMAL Flex. Other than that I am very satisfied, get alot of compliments on the Jeep. (Mods are somewhat rare in these parts.)
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My ex-gf had a TJ and her step dad had a 2 inch coil spacer lift that he gave her for free. I put it on and got a killer deal on 5 33in thornbirds with 1000 miles on them for 400. I couldn't pass that deal up so I threw them on and yes they fit but when you accelerated hard the back tires would rub and you could only turn the front tires half way. If you buy some new rims with better back spacing you can stop that rubbing on the street. It's just not worth it, especially if your tires you have on the jeep now are in good shape. Why don't you buy some nice new wheels that you like a lot with better back spacing that will fit the tires you have now, the tires will stick out a little farther, give the jeep a lil better looks with the new wheels and the better stance, then sell your stock wheels and save a couple bucks up and buy a 3-4 in lift. Continue riding on the stock tires until there gone, or try and sell them with the stock wheels then buy some 33s. Since it's still a low mile Jeep you can probably sell the stock springs and shocks to someone on here for another $50.
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Good point.....backspacing is the key for that senerio. I failed to mention that.

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