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Old 07-20-2007, 03:11 PM   #31
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Just last month I bought an 05 Sport with 33k miles on for $17k.
That was with both tops and the soft top had never been used.

This is a second car for me and yes its rough, noisy and MPG sucks (though I get close to 20 with a good bit of highway driving).

I'm 40 with no kids and the drawbacks don't bother me.

I just hope over the long haul:
1) Its reasonably reliable and doesn't cost a fortune to fix
2) Its decent in the snow so I can get to work in the bad weather.

If both of those things pan out I'll be a happy guy.

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Old 07-20-2007, 03:36 PM   #32
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^^^ was this financed or cash.. from a dealership or private?

thanks..

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Old 07-20-2007, 04:55 PM   #33
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From a dealer. It was a trade-in.
I was going to pay chash, but since I exceeded my original $15k budget I decided to finance a little bit.
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Old 07-20-2007, 11:43 PM   #34
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Wind noise can be defeated with earplugs and a loud stereo, that makes looong trips pleasurable.
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Old 07-21-2007, 10:30 PM   #35
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Whoo HOOO!!! I just picked up the jeep.. 05 x 4.0 OTD for 17,250 39,995 miles.. with all the features.. except soft top.. want to drop the top but no soft top or garage or alarm, yet jeep sits outside..

whats great about it is my fiance loves it also.. she wants me to get mig tires and a lift.. 33'' but I say 31 and 2'' lift.. gas is a killer for me.. I think the gearing will be screwed up also with 33''?

I had lots of cars before some old some new, and some with a lot of hp,, but I really fell for this one.. cant wait to experience the free top and trails..

thanks for all the advice guys..
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Old 07-21-2007, 10:44 PM   #36
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Good luck with it!
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Old 07-22-2007, 05:23 AM   #37
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You wont have to regear but its recomended. There are people saying with the right gears you can even get better mpg running 35s vs stocks so keep that in mind.
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Old 07-22-2007, 12:39 PM   #38
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wouldnt bigger tire rotate slower causing the speedo to go off?

I have an auto I dont know how if it would effect gear selection?
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Old 07-22-2007, 12:53 PM   #39
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You can install 31" tires without any kind of a lift, or you could go to 32" tires with a 2" budget boost suspension lift.

Going to larger tires does throw the speedometer off but you can easily recalibrate it in 5 minutes with new $13 speedometer gear that just snaps in place. Nothing more exotic than a 1/2" wrench is needed. Here's how... http://www.jeepin.com/features/speedogear/index.asp

Your automatic will make running a bigger tire easier than it is for those of us with manual transmissions. Its torque converter helps get around such problems until you get to a significantly larger tire like 33" or bigger.
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Old 07-22-2007, 01:05 PM   #40
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added to favorites.. thanks man.. 32's
will be fine with me..

I just need to figure out which lift I want, leaning towards the BB due to $$$..

I like the way bfg mud looks.. anyone had experiences with it.. pro comp looks good also but pricer..

I look for road noise, and traction on wet.
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BFG's MT is a MUCH better built tire than ProComp's MT (made by Cooper for ProComp) is. Plus the BFG will get a lot better mileage, 50K miles isn't unusual wear. I actually got well over 50K miles on them when I was running that tire.

But... if you plan on wheeling in any rocks as are so common here in SOCAL as I do, I would strongly recommend you at least consider the Goodyear MT/R which is a better tire. It doesn't wear quite as well as the BFG MT does but it is much better offroad and it has a much stronger/cut-resistant sidewall. For rocks, the MT/R has pretty much replaced the BFG MT by rockcrawling enthusiasts for that cut-resistant trait. The ProComp MT doesn't even deserve honorable mention in my personal opinion.
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Old 07-23-2007, 09:37 AM   #42
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I have the Goodyear MTR tire 33X12.50X15's and love them. Rocks are not an issue, but down here in the south I have a little fun in the mud. Just make sure you rotate them about every 5-6K miles.
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I look for road noise, and traction on wet.


As for road noise.. you found the right rig
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I am recently retired from motorcycles (dirt & street) and just bought a 97 Wrangler Sport 4.0 5spd with 76k miles for $9k. (see http://www.wranglerforum.com/new-mem...jeep-9962.html) It was supposed to be a "toy" to drive on Fridays to work and on weekends. Since I've gotten it my 2006 Honda Element EX-P just sits in the driveway. (Anyone want to buy it?) The Jeep makes the Element feel like a Lexus/Race Car, but I am amazed how much I am liking the Jeep. I had always wanted one, but I had not even driven one until I started looking seriously the first of July. Jeep rides rough, is noisy, get 17 mpg instead of 24, is a standard (oyyyyy...in Houston traffic...what was I thinking) but I am loving it so far. The Element is for sale.
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I am recently retired from motorcycles
and so did one of my friends.. he got rammed by an suv at a red stoplight.. suv didn't stop and hit him from behind with out even braking.. end results.. he and his gf (passenger) were both sent to the hospital and had back surgerys for broken back bones.

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