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Old 02-26-2013, 07:44 AM   #1
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wrangler as a 6600lb boat mover??

Thinking out loud here I know the wrangler has a 2000 lb trailer limit but how would it handle a 6600lb boat n trailer to launch/recover then reposition back into indoor storage?
Max would be two miles slow road drving to ramp then back.

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How big a trailer have you hooked to your wrangler? would it survive this duty?

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Old 02-26-2013, 07:51 AM   #2
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Old 02-26-2013, 07:54 AM   #3
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10,000 load, doing exactly what your talking about.Edit. What is slow? Your going to have about 600 lbs of tongue weight.Is your bumper stock or a built aftermarket.
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I would be more concerned with tongue weight. If you are keeping it at 10mph to the dock and back I do think this is possible if the trailer has a low tongue weight.
The 2000 limit is so the Jeep is not overpowered by a heavy trailer when braking.
I have a friend who uses an old FJ LandCruiser to tow his boat a very short distance and even about 5000-6000lb of animal feed on a trailer a few miles back to his ranch.
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Terrible idea my friend..i would say a small boat up to MAYBE three thousand lbs but no way would i ever do any more than that..
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Old 02-26-2013, 08:01 AM   #7
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I would be more concerned with tongue weight
Exactly.
What kind of hitch do you have?
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I've seen a guy tow a big boat with a wrangler.... It was terrifying. He literally had almost no steering especially when going up even a slight hill because the boat pushed the rear end down enough there was no weight on the front. And my friend towed a large 20' trailer with his 2000 4.0L with one lawn mower on it and he said he could barely stop it. Not telling you no, just saying its not the best idea. Borrow a truck from a friend. They're made for that.
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You'd probably chadwick your jeep trying to pull the boat up the ramp lol
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too much tongue weight. unloads the front end.

videos are cool :P

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Would the Jeep pull it? Yes Is it a good idea? No. Very little steering and very little breaking. When you got to the boat ramp the breaks wouldn't hold and the Jeep would be in the water with the boat
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Thats a pretty small trailer on the sunk one.
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Old 02-26-2013, 08:21 AM   #13
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No I wouldn't try it I have moved My 16' Tandem Trailer with 4 ATV's a very short distance with My TJ & wouldn't do it again stopping is a issue as well.
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Would the Jeep pull it? Yes Is it a good idea? No. Very little steering and very little breaking. When you got to the boat ramp the breaks wouldn't hold and the Jeep would be in the water with the boat
Actually that depends on the weight of the trailer as when the boat starts to float you are only dealing with the weight of the trailer.

I actually used to launch and retrieve my 18' Donzi with a V8 with my Yamaha Rhino.....but this was in a contained trailer park with it's own launch ramp and for sure when you are backing the boat in it feels like you will just keep going to the bottom......but once the boat starts to float there is no issue.......traction is the main thing here and I used to throw a 90lb bag of cement in the back and have another person in the cart to make sure there was traction.

That being said I wouldn't even think about towing that amount of boat anywhere but in and out of the garage or other storage area (especially if you had a front hitch) but towing on a public street with other vehicles/people around would not only be dangerous but would likely result in some serious liability if God forbid anything went wrong.......my .02
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too much tongue weight. unloads the front end.

videos are cool :P

If you have spent any time at a boat ramp you will know thats not what happened here. 9 of 10 boat ramp accidents are due to reversing into the water. Plus the size of that trailer means the boat could not have weighed more than 2-3k lbs and the boat ramp didnt even have a sharp entry angle.

This video is a bad representation of what we are talking about
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If you have spent any time at a boat ramp you will know thats not what happened here.
actually I grew up around lake erie, and have spent quite a bit of time at the boat ramp
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actually I grew up around lake erie, and have spent quite a bit of time at the boat ramp
Well pardon my assumption.
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Many years ago I remember my uncle trying to pull his jetsled (about 7K lbs) out of the water with a YJ (lived a few blocks from boat ramp). The ramp was wet and he spun all 4 tires in lo range...just not enough vehicle weight, but it made for a really good smoke show. We had to finally go get a truck.
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A Jeep is great for moving boats and things around your property. Taking it out on the road is another story. Launching is yet another challenge. I use my Jeep to move my junk around the house into my backyard. I made the mistake of using the Jeep to launch my old boat when I was waiting on a part for my pickup. When backing up to the ramp, the front wheels locked up as the boat continued to pull the Jeep when braking. Luckily, I stopped before I started on the steep part of the ramp. You must have the Jeep in 4wd, or you will end up like the video above. My old 1973 boat was only 18' long. My newer 1993 old boat is 20' long. Neither weigh even close to what is described in the original post. I think your Jeep will pop a wheelie!



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I used to tow and launch a 3500lb boat and trailer and never had a problem. Not that I'm recommending taking a 5-6k lb trailer onto the road but I'm sure you could move it around a yard or something. Surprised to hear so many people had such a hard time with such small trailers. But unless you are on very deserted side streets I wouldn't recommend it with that big of a load.
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If you have spent any time at a boat ramp you will know thats not what happened here. 9 of 10 boat ramp accidents are due to reversing into the water. Plus the size of that trailer means the boat could not have weighed more than 2-3k lbs and the boat ramp didnt even have a sharp entry angle.

This video is a bad representation of what we are talking about
I must agree. That is a very small trailer. Had to be 100% driver error on that one.
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I agree its not a good idea but I may need to do this as the jeep is my spare vehicle, has a trailer hitch and is so manuverable for other tasks.

I would just travel on a subdivision road <.5 miles to a main rd for another <.5 miles to a decent concrete ramp.

Think i will hook it up in the spring and see if the tongue weight makes it rub then do a trial launch before taking it to Tennessee.

Plenty of witnesses for sure.


Additionally in 2010 I couldnt launch or recover the boat with the MotorHome so a local with a 4 dr jk launched and recovered it for us. I was suprised it did it pretty easy. His was a auto mines a 5 speed.
Boat is a 23 ft cuddy cabin the 6600 lbs includes the tandem trailer
So im guessing 500 lb tongue weight.
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Tongue weight and the condition of the ramp are your only enemies here. As long as the tongue weight is such that you can still steer and your front brakes arent useless, it'll pull ok- just drive slow because you'll never stop it.

If the ramp is slippery, you may have a hell of a time getting the boat back out again. Or stopping yourself from sliding backwards into the water...but you've certainly got more than enough power to pull it out as long as you have traction.
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That JK also has a V-6 engine... Very far cry from what was put in our TJ's
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I used to pull my jet boat with my cj5 about 40 miles round trip to the lake without any issues. We repositioned the boat on the trailer to minimize the tongue weight. Boat prolly weighed 2500-3000 lb. 10K would be scary even for a short distance.
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Determining Trailer Tongue Weight | etrailer.com

Use the second Bathroom Scale trick. I have used it many times with great results and a $5 bathroom scale.
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That JK also has a V-6 engine... Very far cry from what was put in our TJ's

Are you saying the jk v6 is more powerful than the inline 4.0 ?
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Are you saying the jk v6 is more powerful than the inline 4.0 ?
Ummm.... Yes.... The 2012 JK's put out 285hp and 260 ft.lbs. of torque. The 4.0L used from 2000-2006 put out 190hp and 230 ft.lbs of torque. So yes, the 3.6L V-6 Pentastar engine that is currently used in new wranglers is techincally more powerful than an I-6 that was put in wranglers 7-13 years ago. Technology progresses...
And I was mainly referring to the video that shows the JK pulling the large boat up and down the boat launch.
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That JK also has a V-6 engine... Very far cry from what was put in our TJ's
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Are you saying the jk v6 is more powerful than the inline 4.0 ?
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Ummm.... Yes.... The 2012 JK's put out 285hp and 260 ft.lbs. of torque. The 4.0L used from 2000-2006 put out 190hp and 230 ft.lbs of torque. So yes, the 3.6L V-6 Pentastar engine that is currently used in new wranglers is techincally more powerful than an I-6 that was put in wranglers 7-13 years ago. Technology progresses...
And I was mainly referring to the video that shows the JK pulling the large boat up and down the boat launch.
That vid was uploaded may 2011 so 2012's weren't even out yet...way to admit you were wrong Also peak numbers aren't everything. I'd rather have the flat low-end torque curve of the 4.0 over either v6 anyday.

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