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Old 09-21-2013, 08:48 AM   #1
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Wrangler pickup conversion concept

A new fiberglass project Wrangler pickup concept in the foreground; in the background is my Retro Wrangler, a conversion I did 5 years ago that's been one of my daily drivers since then...







The tub is a fiberglass Dinoot Extended 6'6" trailer tub kit; the cab closeout is a Dinoot trailer tub end panel; the hardtop is a modular Safari Cab half cab.

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A few more details on the concepts; both of these concepts use custom fiberglass custom front end kits, but could use the stock TJ front clip as well...




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This is very cool. I once had an idea that would use the rear door as a wall and hook on the rear bumper and the latch pin to create a p/u bed. I just didn't know how much it could support that far behind the axle, and never had the means to make it.
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Looks awsome would love to have one! Love the face in the side mirror as well!!
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A Commando conversion. Now that's awesome!
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A Commando conversion. Now that's awesome!
I've got a TJ tub to work with:



I could run the stock TJ front clip grille, fenders and sheet metal, or I could run a CJ Grille and matching hood/fenders/cowl, I've got the molds for those parts all done:



Or I could run a Commando grille and custom Commando hood with the CJ-style fenders and cowl... I've got all those molds done except the hood, which I'm working on now. I should have that mold done in the next two weeks(this is a concept drawing of the hood):



I'm also working on a mold for a reproduction of the Hurst Commando hood scoop, so I could do this as a Hurst Commando...

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Old 10-09-2013, 05:51 PM   #7
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you are always doing awesome stuff.... keep it up.
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Old 10-09-2013, 06:29 PM   #8
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you are always doing awesome stuff.... keep it up.
Thank you.

I've finished up the mold masters for the TJ/Commando hood and Hurst Commando hood scoop, I'll be making the molds and molding actual parts next.

I'm also playing around with possible decals for the Commando project:





In the next two photos I set the Hurst hood scoop mold master on top of the hood; it's not a good simulation because the mold master has a big flange around the outside which the final molded scoop won't have, but if gives some idea of the overall look if you ignore the flange and the extra height the flange causes:





And then I started wondering... does Hurst actually make anything for TJ's? The original Commando had a Hurst shifter, but I think that's all the Hurst it had.
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I believe hurst makes a shifter for TJs and possibly a short shift kit depending on transmission
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I believe hurst makes a shifter for TJs and possibly a short shift kit depending on transmission
Someone just told me they make a shifter for the AX-15, which was used in TJ's from 1997-1999. I don't think they make shifters for the NV-3500 or the six-speed NSG-370 .

But I think to be truthful about being "Hurst equipped", all you'd really need to do is throw on one of their shift knobs?
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Someone just told me they make a shifter for the AX-15, which was used in TJ's from 1997-1999. I don't think they make shifters for the NV-3500 or the six-speed NSG-370 . But I think to be truthful about being "Hurst equipped", all you'd really need to do is throw on one of their shift knobs?
I have the ax-15 so that's why I thought they did, I did notice there aren't too many short shift kits. Yeah one of their shift knobs and the badge you'd be good to go
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You may have covered this elsewhere but does someone license your CJ conversion kit like they do the safari top and trailers?

And did that fellow who bought your gaucho ever finish it out and do a thread on that?
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You may have covered this elsewhere but does someone license your CJ conversion kit like they do the safari top and trailers?
I haven't licensed the CJ Grille Kit to any company so far because I don't think there would be enough demand for the kit to make it worth the trouble to work with a company on it.

I have kept all the molds so I if I decide license it to a company in the future I can do that, or if I decide to mold some more kits in the future I'll be able to make as many as I want .

I don't have any plans to license the Commando kit to a company either, but I'll also keep those molds just in case I decide to make more.

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And did that fellow who bought your gaucho ever finish it out and do a thread on that?
As far as I know, he hasn't done anything with it yet.
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Work in progress. The bed is a Dinoot fiberglass trailer tub kit as mentioned in the first post.



Cab closeout is a Dinoot fiberglass trailer tub kit end panel.



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Full mockup #1...

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Swapped the TJ factory fenders for some fiberglass flat fenders.



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awesome work! I love the "tall" Kaiser look of the roof.
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Looks great Jeff!

I love the look of the Commando hood & grille.
As a matter of practicality, that hood would be somewhat detrimental for offroading; limiting the visibility of the immediate front corners that is afforded by the tapered Wrangler hood. Front corner visibility with the Commando hood will be much like with an early Bronco.
I recall riding offroad in my buddy's EB a few years ago, and I was surprised at the difference in visibility.
Offroading aside, I love this concept!!

The new truck concept is cool too. I like the flared bed top of your retro Wrangler, but this concept with the trailer bed matches the existing Wrangler tub lines and would be much more attainable for the average DIY Jeeper.

Keep the cool ideas coming Jeff!
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Looks great Jeff!

I love the look of the Commando hood & grille.
As a matter of practicality, that hood would be somewhat detrimental for offroading; limiting the visibility of the immediate front corners that is afforded by the tapered Wrangler hood. Front corner visibility with the Commando hood will be much like with an early Bronco.
I recall riding offroad in my buddy's EB a few years ago, and I was surprised at the difference in visibility.
Offroading aside, I love this concept!!

The new truck concept is cool too. I like the flared bed top of your retro Wrangler, but this concept with the trailer bed matches the existing Wrangler tub lines and would be much more attainable for the average DIY Jeeper.

Keep the cool ideas coming Jeff!
Thanks! Using the inexpensive fiberglass Dinoot parts makes building a pickup much simpler than trying to do all the custom sheet metal yourself.

I'll be mocking up the Commando kit on this truck, pictures of that soon. But first I'm going to swap out the TJ front end sheet metal for a CJ grille and related parts. Stay tuned for more photos.
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awesome work! I love the "tall" Kaiser look of the roof.
Thank you. The hardtop is a modular fiberglass top of my own design. I used the same design on my Retro Wrangler pickup:



The pieces of the hardtop bolt together, so it's easy to store when it's off the Jeep.



I haven't installed a rear window in the one pictured above or even cut the window opening yet, so there's a paper template taped on showing where the window would go.

Because the top bolts together, it can be installed on a stock Jeep with the roll bars in place - the rear panel gets installed under the roll bars, then roof goes on top.

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Another way this could go... here's the truck with a CJ grille installed. I'm using a factory CJ grille, factory CJ fenders, a CJ Grille Kit hood and a CJ Grille Kit cowl. These old CJ fenders are a bit tweaked so the alignment of all the parts is a little off.





Here's the CJ Grille kit on my LJ for comparison. The LJ gives a good idea of what the front of the truck would look like with the CJ Kit properly installed and painted.



The next mockup will be with a Jeepster Commando grille and a TJ Commando hood.
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I'd love to get ahold of one of those pickup cab kits, I just bought my youngest a tj that came with the soft top version... I am very disappointed in the fit, there are air gaps everywhere and when it rains it runs right in at the gap between the cap and rear cover
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Another way to go - a Wrangler/Hurst Commando kit. Also I've added a fiberglass windshield visor. It's got a factory Jeepster Commando grille, factory CJ fenders, and a fiberglass Wrangler/Commando hood.









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Hello Jscherb. Very nice work your doing, I would love to see it in person one day. I have a small favor to ask of you. I'm thinking about stretching my TJ and I'm looking at two different routes. One of them would be just extending the rear of the tub/frame to match the length of a LJ top. This will make the rear overhang look similar to a scrambler. I don't have the tools to photo shop it with the proper demotions to see how it would look. I was hoping if you had some time in your extremely busy schedule of creating new jeep ideas if you could posibily do it? If I'm asking too much please feel free to ignore me becaus I have no idea what's involved in doing the computer moc-ups. Thanks.
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Hello Jscherb. Very nice work your doing, I would love to see it in person one day. I have a small favor to ask of you. I'm thinking about stretching my TJ and I'm looking at two different routes. One of them would be just extending the rear of the tub/frame to match the length of a LJ top. This will make the rear overhang look similar to a scrambler. I don't have the tools to photo shop it with the proper demotions to see how it would look. I was hoping if you had some time in your extremely busy schedule of creating new jeep ideas if you could posibily do it? If I'm asking too much please feel free to ignore me becaus I have no idea what's involved in doing the computer moc-ups. Thanks.
To match the length of the LJ tub, you'd be extending the rear of the tub by 15". Extending the frame is easy, you can see how the factory extended the rear of the TJ frame 5" for the LJ - they left the rear crossmember in place, extended the frame rails 5", and welded a second crossmember in. You could do the same to your TJ frame, except make the extension 15".

The harder part is extending the tub - have you given any thought to that? Would you extend the inner fenders as well, or would you truncate them behind the wheels like the Scrambler? And if you truncate them, have you given any thought to how you'd reinforce the tailgate opening?

After you answer the question above about extending the tub, if you email me a straight-on side view of your Jeep, I'll try to do a photo edit for you.

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Thank you very much for your response. I will work up my plans for you and then send them along with a picture. Also, if your ever downstate(westchester county) in one of your vehicles I'd love to see one??

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