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Old 04-18-2007, 04:17 PM   #1
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Wrangler TJ

I got a lot of feedback on a previous question so I am leaning towards a TJ rather than a JK. After doing some research I have narrowed it down and want to run it past some of you experts to see if I am choosing the right approach etc... I want my Jeep to be flexible in terrains such as Rocks, Mud, and Sand. I am not looking to roll it or anything. However, I do not want to get stuck too easy either. I am also not looking on spending $20,000 in mods. I am still a bit confused as to whether choose an auto or 5spd.

Choice #1:

Buy a Rubicon TJ put a 3.5"+ lift with 35's use the front dana 35and the rear 44 with electric lockers, regear it and call it good. Add a winch etc...

Choice #2:

Buy a heavily modified Rubicon TJ or just a regular TJ from a good owner who may or may have not swapped the front dana 35 for a 44 (since I guess the front ends are not dana 44 from what I have read) and installed ARB's front and rear and regeared with 35's+.


Choice #3:

Buy a regular TJ to save money and then mod it with Dana 44 in the front ARB lockers front and rear (hopefully the rear axle will not have to be replaced as well) same lift and tires regearing etc... Problems I see would be I may lose ABS if any of the axles would be swapped out for a another axle.

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Old 04-18-2007, 04:20 PM   #2
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Rubicons have D44's front and rear with selectable lockers. I would buy stock and do what you want. I wish I would have got a Rubi cause its a good platform to build up.

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Old 04-18-2007, 04:28 PM   #4
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1st- all Rubicons come stock with Dana 44 front and rear axles with lockers. That's why they cost so much.

If you can get a good deal on a Wrangler, you can buy a new Dana 44 rear axle with a locker for $2000, then add a selectible locker and gears for the front for another $1000 and a SYE for about $500. That means upgrading a regular Wrangler to perform like a stock Rubicon costs $3500-$4000. You do the math and see if it's worth the money to buy a Rubicon. Then price out a good lift, tires and wheels. Good luck
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Old 04-18-2007, 04:30 PM   #5
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The Rubicon front axle is a Dana 44 it just uses some Dana 30 parts like the tubes, knuckles, brakes. It does have 30 spline d44 shafts and a d44 ring gear. It would be plenty strong for what you are looking for.
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Old 04-18-2007, 05:25 PM   #6
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Thanks a lot guys I was under the impression it did have a D44 in the front, but wasn't positive. I guess it was the Dana 30 parts that threw me off. I saw people selling their Dana 35 axle off their 1997 TJ on craiglist. I guess that is why I said Dana 35, hopefully I didn't confuse anyone.

Most people agree that the stock locker is sufficient, but if I wanted to install ARB's would I be able to do that fairly easily or would I have to get different axles?
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A dana 35 is a rear axle.
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Old 04-18-2007, 09:46 PM   #8
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yup...30 is the front..unless its a rubi
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Old 04-18-2007, 10:00 PM   #9
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So I talked to my roommate who owns a jeep cherokee and he said that I shouldn't have any problems replacing the stock electric locker in the rubi with an ARB front and rear. I may find I don't need to go ARB, but if I ever want to it would be nice to know I have the option.
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Personally I wouldn't buy an already modified Jeep. Because....

1. You may come to a point where you need to know what you have installed, but not have the info because you didn't install it.

2. It's definitely been wheeled off road. How hard, or responsibly, you'll never know.

3. You can't count on the fact that the previous owner didn't do some shady stuff with it or add some unsafe mods.

Also, why would you want to replace the stock electric locker in the Rubi? Also, how do you know what you'll need to add if you never wheel it stock? A stock Rubicon is a very capable vehicle with no modifications.

Auto or 5 speed is a personal preference.

Do some more research. Don't make this decision on a whim.
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Old 04-18-2007, 11:35 PM   #11
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You are right, wheel it with stock lockers and then if the need arises go with whatever suits your needs... Makes sense.

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