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Old 01-05-2009, 12:40 PM   #1
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Wrangler X or Rubicon?

Im looking at a new jeep and I cant make up my mind on which one to get..Basically im looking for a 00-05 tj its going to be lifted again with 35"s..Which Model do you all think would be best?..Thanks For the input in advance ~~Jrzy~~

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Since you did not mention cost, I'd get a Rubicon.

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x2 the only diff. is cost (lockers, axles, and decals) i believe. so i guess its a matter of whether you want to do those mods yourself, or have them done already???
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Does anybody know a site where I can pull up the specs from both models and compare? Its on jeeps website but only for the 09's of course.
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Old 01-05-2009, 02:15 PM   #5
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Well im just looking to upgrade since my got totaled...I had a "SE" and now im looking at the sport the X and The rubicon.>And I see a huge diffrence in the price but im not seeeing a huge diffrence in the specs..So confusing lol
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Skip the X get a Sport, or Rubicon...for starters check the rear ends. Sport and Rubicon come with the 44 rear... also the 4.0L has more power.
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So the Sport is better than the X? If thats the case I found a sweet ass sport..All I want is a good gear ratio, 4.0l, and a plus would be the 2 tone interior..O god I went through this with my first jeep..O the memories lol
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The x has a dana 35 rear axle, the sport has a dana 44 thats what I have and I would get that if it was a price issue, and the Rubicon is the best one all it really is is an stock off road package comes with a dana44 rear axle rock rails and the lockers, but they are more expensive, I would get a sport and you can always put lockers and rock rails on them, thats what I did just last week to mine I now have a rubi-clone
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The Rubi has 44's front and rear, lockers and a 4:1 T-case. It is the best purchase. Sure you can add all this later, but do you have the ability, time or money to do it?
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If you can swing it get the Rubi......I have one and love it.
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This is the jeep Im looking at right now as my secondary

Pictures of Used 2000 Jeep Wrangler, Ewing, NJ - Yahoo! Autos
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what kind of shocks are these..pics

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^^ What do those shocks have to do with this thread?
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The Rubi's more than just axles and a sticker.

D-44's with 4.10 gears on BOTH ENDS.
Air lockers, both ends.
Disc brakes all around.
When the rear air locker is off, it's still a posi lock.
No need to convert to a SYE adapter.
Transfer case is bigger and stronger - with much lower gears.
Heavier steering box.
Diamond Plate Rock rails.
Larger stock tires and rims.

Most of the improvements are things you'd add anyway if you were going to use it off road.
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you best bet is to get the rubi. it has much stronger axles that can handle the 35" tires. i have an "X" and i love it, but the 3.73 gears just won't cut it for anything bigger than 33's.
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OK....THE TJ/LJ WRANGLER REAR AXLE......

All TJ's from 97 to 06 have a front D30.
exception.....the Rubicon model has a front D44 only.

The rear axle can be EITHER a D35 or D44 on any model but the SE and unlimited.
The Unlimited comes with a D44 rear standard.
The SE "4banger" only came with the D35 rear.

All Sports, Saharas, AND X's had the option of the D44 rear by the dealer or if ordered by the buyer with it. It is still very rare with the X model.

The Rubicon comes standard with front and rear D44's.

Hope that helps in any decision for anyone.. If you do not know how to tell the difference between the rear D35 and D44. Use the search function at the top of the page. It has been explained several times.

If you still are unsure about the differances in the axles. Please ask.
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This may be blasphemy to the Rubicon owners but personally I'd rather have a non-Rubicon and build it up. I'm not happy with the Rubicon's rear combo locker/LSD that has been found to not hold up as well as expected/hoped for and I'm not happy with the fact its front D44 uses Dana 30 knuckles, u-joints, outer stub shafts, etc.. Even though the front D44 has a stronger center housing & R&P, its outer Dana 30 components really eliminate most of its potential strength benefit over a Dana 30.

About the only thing I really like about a Rubicon and would love to have is its 4:1 t-case.
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About the only thing I really like about a Rubicon and would love to have is its 4:1 t-case.
Agreed, the 241 is a good t-case.
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Sweet guys thatnks for all the feedback..Cant wait to pick up spmething new this week : )
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I would say it depends on your plans for the Jeep. An X model will more practical if you plan on radically buliding it up (35+tires, high end lift, gearing change etc.) The Rubicon would be best for a more modest build, where you don't end switching out everything you paid extra for.
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This may be blasphemy to the Rubicon owners but personally I'd rather have a non-Rubicon and build it up. I'm not happy with the Rubicon's rear combo locker/LSD that has been found to not hold up as well as expected/hoped for and I'm not happy with the fact its front D44 uses Dana 30 knuckles, u-joints, outer stub shafts, etc.. Even though the front D44 has a stronger center housing & R&P, its outer Dana 30 components really eliminate most of its potential strength benefit over a Dana 30.

About the only thing I really like about a Rubicon and would love to have is its 4:1 t-case.
Blasphemy!

Actually, after driving and trailing a 2000 TJ sport (with a front 30 and rear 35) I'm by far more impressed with the t-case than anything else. That thing will let you walk down the front of an ice cube and as long as you can get the tires to stick, no brake, or parachute is necessary!
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This may be blasphemy to the Rubicon owners but personally I'd rather have a non-Rubicon and build it up. I'm not happy with the Rubicon's rear combo locker/LSD that has been found to not hold up as well as expected/hoped for and I'm not happy with the fact its front D44 uses Dana 30 knuckles, u-joints, outer stub shafts, etc.. Even though the front D44 has a stronger center housing & R&P, its outer Dana 30 components really eliminate most of its potential strength benefit over a Dana 30.

About the only thing I really like about a Rubicon and would love to have is its 4:1 t-case.
Not blashpemy, for the guy who wants to build a rock crawler. For most other people it would do fine. Perhaps all they will ever need. Also I've heard more praise for the newer air lockers than frustration.
To each his own........

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