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Old 08-17-2010, 12:14 AM   #31
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Believe it or not, I was trying to slow down. :-) I wasn't going too fast, it was rush hour. But we were probably going around 45. Oh well, off to the dealer for something...

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Old 08-17-2010, 01:21 AM   #32
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Old 08-17-2010, 02:43 AM   #33
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If you're going to engage 4wd, do so when the roads are covered in moving water from the run off while driving straight with the tires moving at the same speed....I have noticed that when the water is trying to pull me off the road, 4wd helps me keep my Jeep traveling in a straight line from the front tires pulling my front end straight when my rear wants to go sideways. This is when the water is trying to pull me off the road, NOT necessarily when I'm hydroplaning which I don't think the 4wd would really help with (kinda like driving on solid ice...2wd or 4wd, either way, you're going to slide all over the place). The others above are right though...the first thing you should do is reduce your speed. I use the 4wd when its raining so hard the roads have become streams but I also reduce my speed considerably.
ahh see this is what i was trying to get at!

sorry I didn't know exactly how to explain it i shouldnt have said when your hydroplaning.

Thanks for the help tho guys! It will really help when I move!
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Old 08-17-2010, 04:08 AM   #34
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Glad to hear that you are alright. Sorry about your jeep.
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Old 08-17-2010, 04:19 AM   #35
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Damn, that sucks about your Jeep. I would definitely be looking into buying it back from the insurance company when you get paid out though, especially if you can get it for a great price. Superficially, it looks to still be repairable. Glad to hear you're okay and walked away from the crash in one piece.
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Old 08-17-2010, 04:19 AM   #36
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hahahahahahahahaha hydroplaning of death
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Old 08-17-2010, 08:23 AM   #37
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Believe it or not, I was trying to slow down. :-) I wasn't going too fast, it was rush hour. But we were probably going around 45. Oh well, off to the dealer for something...
You weren't using cruise control at the time were you?????

That is another thing that needs to be mentioned while we're on the subject.... Never use cruise in the rain. Hydroplaning is very likely when you hit the brake to disengage the cruise.
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Old 08-17-2010, 09:24 AM   #38
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X2 on the cruise control. All vehicles will suffer a sad fate if they use the cruise when raining, snow or ice.
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Old 08-17-2010, 09:58 AM   #39
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I sure hope folks aren't confusing hydroplaning with "fishtailing" or power sliding.
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Old 08-17-2010, 11:04 AM   #40
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I sure hope folks aren't confusing hydroplaning with "fishtailing" or power sliding.
yeah for a second there I was then I realized what I was thinking in my head wasn't what I was writing aahaha
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Old 08-17-2010, 11:18 AM   #41
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Believe it or not, I was trying to slow down. :-) I wasn't going too fast, it was rush hour. But we were probably going around 45. Oh well, off to the dealer for something...
I think there are pictures to the contrary. Jeeps are in their element offroad not in rush hour traffic going with the flow. Jeeps are a very light, short wheelbase vehicle that, in many situations, don't handle like anything but a Jeep. Years of driving other vehicles don't make you an experianced Jeep driver. only driving a Jeep does. This is why I cringe when I see people with their first Jeep only a few weeks wanting to know what kind of 4" lift to get, or how big of tires they can put on. The question I am waiting to see is for someone to ask "Just how good is this factory roll bar?" Never gonna happen. I am glad to see that everyone is ok. OK chopping up the soa[box and starting the fire.
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Old 08-17-2010, 11:46 AM   #42
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The question I am waiting to see is for someone to ask "Just how good is this factory roll bar?" Never gonna happen.
I know that bar isn't worth a damn. I've been around caged cars and I know the facory one isn't the best.

Better yet, how many of those new Jeep owners even know what that bar is and does?
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Old 08-17-2010, 11:53 AM   #43
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Jeeps are a very light, short wheelbase vehicle ...
While the wheelbase is short, our Wrangler TJs are definitely not light. They weigh more than the vast majority of cars and being in the mid-3000 to low 4000 lb. weight, they are anything but light. We can thank the Wrangler's heavy steel frame and steel tub for that weight, as well as the armor and accessories many of us add that can easily push it over 4,000 lbs..
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Old 08-17-2010, 11:56 AM   #44
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Sorry Jerry I should of said light in thier loafers, High CG. With very different handeling properties. Curb weight of mine is 1403 kilograms = 3 093.08554 pounds before larger tires and wheels and receiver hitch and I have the baby.
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Old 08-18-2010, 01:49 PM   #45
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I can't say Wranglers are more prone to it. But running big or extra-wide tires that aren't fully aired up will make it easier to hydroplane at lower speeds.

The bigger the tire's footprint and the lower the air pressure in the tire, the more easily it will hydroplane. Make sure your tires are fully aired up when driving on wet roads.

I'm glad you came through that ok!
thanks jerry for that info. i just tried it and it works like a charm.
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Old 08-19-2010, 05:40 PM   #46
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My brakes were always a little grabby, quick to lock up the wheels. Are most Jeeps this way or could they be adjusted to be more gradual.
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My 98 TJ is fine, not grabby at all. But its also got ABS, which could make the difference.

Have you looked at your pads or rotors at all?
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My brakes were always a little grabby, quick to lock up the wheels. Are most Jeeps this way or could they be adjusted to be more gradual.
If you install 35" tires, this won't be an issue .
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My brakes are grabby as all get out when they're wet..... 33's don't help...
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Old 08-20-2010, 02:12 AM   #50
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I think there are pictures to the contrary. Jeeps are in their element offroad not in rush hour traffic going with the flow. Jeeps are a very light, short wheelbase vehicle that, in many situations, don't handle like anything but a Jeep. Years of driving other vehicles don't make you an experianced Jeep driver. only driving a Jeep does. This is why I cringe when I see people with their first Jeep only a few weeks wanting to know what kind of 4" lift to get, or how big of tires they can put on. The question I am waiting to see is for someone to ask "Just how good is this factory roll bar?" Never gonna happen. I am glad to see that everyone is ok. OK chopping up the soa[box and starting the fire.
so just how good is that factory roll bar???
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Old 08-25-2010, 10:57 PM   #51
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Not that great when it comes to the most forward part around the windshield.
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Old 08-25-2010, 11:44 PM   #52
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Sorry about your Jeep.
I second the comments in regards to the tires as the culprit. My first vehicle was a Cherokee - really loved it. My mechanic put new tires on it, which happened to perform badly in the rain, the Jeep was supersensitive and always sliding. I will never buy this brand again. So, even though your tires were not bald, as you say, they might have made the difference between having the accident or being able to control the Jeep.
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Old 08-25-2010, 11:47 PM   #53
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"Too fast for conditions" is an actual tickatable offense. "Conditions" don't stop at the weather, your truck isn't excluded from this phrase. Keep this in mind as you can still get a ticket for driving too fast for the condition of your vehicle.

What brand tires did you have? That'd be a great thing to know since its your tires that caused the bad rain performance and not your driving.

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