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Old 09-24-2010, 04:51 PM   #1
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Exclamation Wrecked my Wrangler W/Pics-Opinion on ARB Bumpers

So I need new bumpers because I was rear ended and subsequently hit the car in front of me. Its been awhile and still haven't had an adjuster come to check the damage to the Jeep (how long can they take?! ) but I did get the chance to take it to a Chrysler Dealership and got an estimate for $5900 . Anyways, the reason I say this is because I am looking at replacement parts for all that was damaged and I am looking for opinions on ARB bumpers (front and rear). I searched the forum and nothing came up when prompted "ARB" or "ARB*." Any info on their products or who I should talk to would be greatly appreciated. Also, some other things are damaged so if you guys wanna suggest what I should replace them with, I'd be happy to listen


As you can see, the tube bumper did nothing. It folded like a little sissy girl My stock fog light is destroyed and the passenger fender is toast. Even my grill needs to be replaced from where the tube bumper hit it. Oh, and I had to walk around in traffic until I found my license plate


Exhibit B: a closer look at my mangled passenger fender


The fender crunched up and actually bent the hood, nothing was done to the tub except some paint got pinched and cracked.


The rear tubes have to go, they're bent and no longer parallel. The tire carrier is bent in so the tire looks sagged.

The Jeep is 2003 and hasn't had much done to it, I'm looking to put some money into it soon anyways so I want to get the best now rather than later. Sorry about the pics, they're all bad angles and from an old iPhone. If anyone wants more, I'd be happy to take them.

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Thats more sad than the Missing Kitty thread.....(wasn't that sad to me )

nice looking jeep, and hope you get done, bigger and better now...

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Old 09-24-2010, 05:26 PM   #3
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Thanks for the encouragement AJ, I've got big plans for it.
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Old 09-24-2010, 08:17 PM   #4
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I feel you pain,Bro!I was rear-ending by a dump truck,of all things,while sitting stopped at a freeway off-ramp waiting to pull into traffic!I fared much better than you,because my damage was confined to tailgate and spare tire.If a car ever hits me low,the industrial-strength rear bumper I have will likely bend my frame,because it is built like a Sherman Tank!Good luck and hope you get her fixed up!
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Nows a good time for the brute high line hood n fender kit, so you fit some meat under your jeep!!!
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Old 09-24-2010, 11:50 PM   #6
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You don't mention how fast you were going when you hit the other vehicle? Although that's a fair amount of damage, I can't imagine you were going very fast.
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Old 09-25-2010, 12:28 AM   #7
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Tube bumpers are worthless for protection. I went through several front and 1 rear before I got the point. I say tube flares, cheap chunck metal bumpers like the dirtworx and pocket the rest for other toys. But glad to hear you are ok.
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Old 09-25-2010, 02:44 AM   #8
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GoldTJ: I could never imagine getting rear ended by a dump truck. What did the driver say the reason was?

Cork: I was on the brakes but not completely stopped before I was hit but I definitely could have stopped if the car behind me had not hit me. I'd say 10 mph, I'm bad at gauging that stuff though.

Jp90Talon: The tubes came with the Jeep and I didn't hate them, I just knew that someday I'd like to replace them. I kinda went through the stinger phase for awhile but I did not buy one because I doubt my Jeep will see that much action right now (I'm a college student). I do however really like everything Metalcloak but I'm not sure how much I will receive for the damage to my Jeep. I plan on buying a Warn after its all said and done, no matter what.
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Old 09-25-2010, 02:48 AM   #9
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tubular front bumper + minor crash =
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Sorry about that brother. It pains me to see a Jeep get wrecked. I think just about any offroad bumper will hold up much better than a tube bumper. I saw pictures of the aftermath of a buddy's Jeep rear ending another SUV on the freeway. The SUV's back was crushed in pretty good. My buddy's Jeep had a Smittybilt offroad bumper, and from the pictures you couldn't tell it was in any kind of accident except for the roller fairlead was bent out of shape some. I hope you get it all fixed up nice real soon.
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I just put front and back warn bumpers on mine LOVE them
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Old 09-25-2010, 10:06 AM   #12
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WOW if it were mine I would pocket about 65% of that by doing it myself
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Old 09-25-2010, 10:18 AM   #13
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Check out road armor bumpers! Great folks. The one I have (front) is built like a tank.
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I've always found the ARB bumpers to be a little big and obnoxious but then again I'm more for the stubby bumper look. I'm planning to go Rokmen or AtoZ when I finally get around to bumpers.

Definately don't go tubular again weak and if you want to use a hi-lift on them they're a disaster waiting to happen.
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Old 09-25-2010, 11:04 AM   #15
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BobJenkins: Thats exactly what it looks like! I'm really anxious to trash the bumpers but I have to wait for the adjuster to look at the Jeep.

Yomondo: I'll have it fixed as soon as I order new bumpers and get a break from school, my father has done body work on cars his whole life so I think it'll be an easy operation.

JeepGurl6969: I've looked at warn bumpers A TON but just like the look of the ARBs better, I originally meant for this thread to be a place where people could tell me about their ARB bumpers but in the middle of it I just decided to throw in some pictures and the bumper issue got second billing.

Ted_D: Of course I plan on doing the work myself and not just hand my Jeep to a bodyshop (don't trust anyone around here enough yet). I can't imagine that the adjuster will give me the same estimate as the body shop at my local chrysler dealership but I have a list with everything that will need to be replaced and the guys card who gave me the estimate. Hopefully the adjuster will just glance at it, approve it, and we'll both be happy

WahooWolfe: Thanks for the advice, I will definitely check them out.

FarFire70: What are the benefits of a stubby front over something like the quadratec edition of the ARB front? I've checked out rokmen but mostly for their Rocker Armor. I will definitely look into AtoZ to see if there is something I like.


I plan on doing more than just replacing whats battered and broken, this will be my first real modification since buying the Jeep. I want to do as much as possible with what I've got.
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Mines been dented up for over a year now and it adds character.Jeep on ice vs trailer house.
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Old 09-25-2010, 11:17 AM   #17
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I like to have my Jeep look nice so I'm not just gonna leave it as it is. Maybe if I did the damage myself and had to pay for it myself I would consider leaving it for awhile but when insurance is paying me to have it fixed, I will repair it hands down. I'm not desperate for a cheaper fix and I won't pocket any money.
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I swear by the ARB bumpers! Got 1 one my ZJ and 1 on my LJ. They hold up well to deer and the D-ring anchor points are amazingly strong.
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Old 09-26-2010, 01:14 AM   #19
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Phil it may sound weird but I swear you were the first person I've read about having ARBs and that's what made me look for them. I remember reading in a previous thread about the exact same thing you just said now. Can you pm me some pictures of them? The sites pictures aren't to great... Do you have the rear bumpers too?
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ARB works well for me, nice sturdy bumper.

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Hey JeepDiver,
Didn't think you could've been going very fast, and it LOOKS like 10mph would probably be about right.

Might have to look at a different bumper setup for my Jeep, after seeing this thread!!

Thanks for the reply
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PM sent JeepDiver but I forgot about the rear bumper. I don't like the looks or the price of the ARB rear so I went with Big Daddy's rock plus, it's low proflie but has nifty corner guards for good protection plus massive D-rings and a tire carrier can be installed at any time. It bolts on with 10 bolts so it's not gonna pull off.
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FarFire70: What are the benefits of a stubby front over something like the quadratec edition of the ARB front? I've checked out rokmen but mostly for their Rocker Armor. I will definitely look into AtoZ to see if there is something I like.
I personally like the looks of a stubby, the ARB is too big and bulky for the front of a TJ in my opinion. The stubby is nice because it won't get hung up as often or in your way trying to line up your ft tires.
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ARB's products are top-notch and I don't believe you can beat ARB's Air Locker. That said, my personal opinion on their bumper is that it is WAY too big and heavy. I used to love their bumper until I came to appreciate just how big, bulky appearing, and heavy it really is. Bumpers that big also tend to get hung up more on the trail.
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Stealership wants $5900! LOL heck bring it to me I'll do it for $5900 too. You can get a replacement fender brand new for $200 Cdn. here. Seriously though I would take the cash and do all the work myself, Forget the ARB bumpers they are heavy as hell so unless you plan on finding more cash for a serious lift I would consider something a little more reasonable for your needs. Besides ARB bumpers + No lift = silly looking jeep.
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ARB works well for me, nice sturdy bumper.

Does your jeep run hot with all that weight and stuff blocking up the grill like that?
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A to Z fab has some bumpers worth looking @ IMO....they at least used to have one that was a clone of the WARN bumpers (minus the W's cut out). and were apparently made on the same line as the WARN's.....for much less cash.

also I like the Currie front bumper...I may be in a small crowd on that opinion though since I don't see many others running it.

oh and for fenders, if you plan on lifting/larger tires you might look at the MCE flat fenders. they are cheap, and simple. and if you can pound your fenders back into 1/2 decent shape with a BFH you can cut them up, and mount the MCE fenders.
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I'm assuming no major injuries?

And did you thank the guy that whacked ya? $5900 is a nice chunk, and oughtta be plenty for an aftermarket fender kit and a pair of bumpers

Last wreck I was in I went the "honest" route and took it straight to an insurance recommended shop... got my A/C system screwed up and a real half*** job done on fixing the damage, and the ins co. got a ridiculous bill. I actually called the ins. kids and listed out all the "bogus" stuff on the bill for em, like an oil change, A/C flush and service (that it didn't need, and when they did the service on it, they broke the low side input valve...grr..), a windshield that wasn't actually replaced, and a few others I can't remember at the moment... don't know if they ever did anything about it, but I did what I could

Last time I try to do that the "right" way... next time i'll get 3 estimates and "cash out" like a normal person...
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Cosmo 05- Nice setup, almost exactly what I'd like. Did you look at the Quadratec version before buying that? They are "stubbier" which I think looks a little better.

Cork- No problem man. It was like the perfect storm, I was in heavy traffic and slowing down due to cars stopped ahead of me. I still don't know why the girl behind me hit me but my only guess is that she was on her phone and she hit me hard. Little damage was done to the back because of my tire cushioning the blow but the tire carrier is def bent. This was the first accident I've been in.

Phil05LJ- I haven't really looked too hard for other rear bumpers or tire carriers (Besides OR Fab) besides ARB, I sort of like the idea of having matching front and rear bumpers but for that price I don't think so.

FarFire70- I took your post into consideration and have been looking strongly at the stubby quadratec ARB bumper. Would this be an okay trail bumper?

JerryBransford- Thanks Jerry, I've been reading your posts for awhile and I'm convinced I should buy an OR Fab tire carrier (if I need to replace my current setup). I recently read your MCE thread and think it looks great. I've been thinking about them for some time now and having a visual reference for installation is a great thing.

JeepJones- The guy who gave me the estimate knew that he wouldn't be working on it before he even started to look so I was surprised to hear $5900 too. My father and I are fixing it ourselves so don't worry about that. He has been in body work his entire life so it shouldn't be a problem.

MCC- I checked A to Z and the front bumper is a little to plain for me but I respect your opinion. I would def be happy with the Warn (if I had the "Grille Guard Tube") but there is something about ARB that I like. You're right about the A to Z rear bumper and tire carrier, it does look almost exactly like Warn which is nice because one thing I didn't like about Warn's rear bumper was the W's. Maybe if my name was Wallaby Wallace Like I said earlier I have been looking at MCE's but did not like the fact that you had to cut to install bc my Jeep has been the same since bought off the lot (dealership added a lift and a few other things for the PO) but now that one fender is shot I may go for it. I know that I have a champagne taste on a beer budget but I do look at MetalClock fenders about every other day but MCE's are the perfect price.

Aelwero- No injuries at all, my girlfriend was a little freaked out though which I found funny. I'm the type of person that doesn't really get frustrated, mad, or nervous. Yeah, my father has kind of been walking me through this whole process and now I know the correct thing to do (never use a "company approved" body shop). We'll be fixing it ourselves with the amount we receive although I doubt I'll get $5900 for the damage its just nice to have a third parties opinion and their card to hand to the adjuster when they arrive. Seriously, how long does this whole process take? It'll be a month since the accident in three days! I also have a court date for "Colliding with another motor vehicle" which is not a ticket worthy event. Do you think I should get three estimates? I thought one would be fine.

All money is going back into the Jeep, I have no reason to keep insurance money in pocket.
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Look at Body Armor's bumpers. I wanted those until I found good deals on the Mopar rock crawler bumpers, which I really like the looks of.

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